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Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts - page 17. (Read 123190 times)

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GUI wallet preview.  Wallet is currently under testing (by me and others).  Expect some changes before final release.  Here is a preview of how things look now.



what does clicking on the "smart contract" button do?
full member
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What is the stage of your pre-sale?I feel that your project has many supporters, which is very popular and impressive.
I will keep following your development progress

There is no presale. Dero is publicly traded at https://tradeogre.com/exchange/BTC-DERO and https://app.stocks.exchange/en/basic-trade/pair/BTC/DERO/1D -- the main net has been live for months, and is under constant development and improvement.

That was a nonsense post because gailunfei copied it from another thread. And is usually the case when I spot plagiarizers, I reported he/she/it.

Nuke 'em, Dan-o!
newbie
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What is the stage of your pre-sale?I feel that your project has many supporters, which is very popular and impressive.
I will keep following your development progress

There is no presale. Dero is publicly traded at https://tradeogre.com/exchange/BTC-DERO and https://app.stocks.exchange/en/basic-trade/pair/BTC/DERO/1D -- the main net has been live for months, and is under constant development and improvement.
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GUI wallet preview.  Wallet is currently under testing (by me and others).  Expect some changes before final release.  Here is a preview of how things look now.

















Nice these wallets looking good.  Not sure about the colors but thats not a big issue lol.  Looks clean and easy to use though, at least from what it looks like through these pictures.. i am happy its finally arriving its been a long time without gui wallet, but of course not a big deal since this code was build from scratch instead of simple copy paste.
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jr. member
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--nemo me impune lacessit--
GUI wallet preview.  Wallet is currently under testing (by me and others).  Expect some changes before final release.  Here is a preview of how things look now.















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Thats great to see were slowly getting all the answers everyone wanted to see and the questions are being answered and the doubt is slowly going away to the ones that still thinks this is a scam coin, there always a chance for it to be a scam but i highly doubt this is the case with Dero. as a friend of mine asked me, why would a small cap coin with small trade volume would get so much attention ? why so many people are trying to take this project down ? maybe because there is something that can make a HUGE difference in the Private Coin Department :-)
so if you think its a scam and feel like your not safe with your investment you can always sell and move on and if you do believe this coin is going to be a major player in the Privacy market, the price now is a steal !!!


Yes, agreed!
I don not believe that this is a scam coin too, you know? I feel like people are being overly harsh on all the new /small-time projects because they have been burnt in the past. maybe the recent news are going to get them more open-minded, you know?
jr. member
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Duh, my bad. move funds provide private key, bam done. I assume nefarious because it is a simple and quick thing to prove and he has not proven it.
Captain proved it by moving the funds within the wallet in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42075270. Everyone can check it with the publicly available viewkey f221cf4f77d11f0061f3e4c9615540cbc2d2d532ac2f08c623d2a72ad0145d702b7e5941737e041 6eebaba30c3c30b517a14db1efa9aa13b119e31c380313603.

What is your hidden agenda behind this FUD? I do not believe you are trying to warn fellow members out of the goodness of your heart.  Wink
Funny to see this legendary member who is regular poster in other cryptonote coin don't know how cryptonote works.
Feeling threatened by Dero tech.  
hero member
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If dev keeps on with development, and delivering, then with a good marketing everything should be on track
hero member
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do you need any community manager, I can introduce you to someone, Chinese/Italy/French
newbie
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Hello everyone,

This is Mat from DERO community advisory board (DCAB). DCAB provides a feedback and non-binding strategic and tactical advice to the management of the Dero Foundation staff. DCAB members can participate in or organize any communal activities on a voluntary basis and coordinate with the Foundation staff but they are not part of the it.

My personal points:

I am glad to see a lot of people here and share their talent thinking regarding on this project. Whether the points are postive or negative are all welcome to my mind.

When I came to DERO, the structure of community had serious problem that only two people had contact with DERO core devs which may have a high risk of distorting the intention of core devs. Now we have 13 DCAB members on a voluntary basis, I believe that with this kind of structure, we can have an objective feedback from now on.

I would also like to point out that DERO core team always ask us wait and see what they deliver and prefer the discussion of technology rather than "proving they are innocent". So please think how much percentage has already been achieved right now, especially reqeust you think of the advantage of Atlantis.

As far as I know that DERO proejct will deliver the GUI wallet and update the official website soon, this can help some people who have less technical background have the possbility to access DERO, this means DERO core team start to think the eco-system with the "robust infrastructure"(i.e. Atlantis) delivered.

I hope all the friends who love this project can join us to celebrate achievement while the day comes.

The end is well all is well. Nothing can stop DERO project moving forward at this point.

BR.
Mat
jr. member
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I think you did a mistake, because Captain never cared about Dero price, only Serena push the marketing earlier.

A good news, look like Captain is listening the community through DCAB members, but at least he listen.

 Grin
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Duh, my bad. move funds provide private key, bam done. I assume nefarious because it is a simple and quick thing to prove and he has not proven it.
Captain proved it by moving the funds within the wallet in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42075270. Everyone can check it with the publicly available viewkey f221cf4f77d11f0061f3e4c9615540cbc2d2d532ac2f08c623d2a72ad0145d702b7e5941737e041 6eebaba30c3c30b517a14db1efa9aa13b119e31c380313603.

What is your hidden agenda behind this FUD? I do not believe you are trying to warn fellow members out of the goodness of your heart.  Wink
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
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But definitely not a case of "one can only assume nefarious reasons"; there are plenty of innocent reasons for the premine to remain unlocked and some of them have been posted to this thread.

Duh, my bad. move funds provide private key, bam done. I assume nefarious because it is a simple and quick thing to prove and he has not proven it.

And as far as locking the pre-mine, well thats just another lie no matter "the reasons".

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By lying about the ASIC change they not only caused the value to drop because of inflation but alienated a large segment of their base that would have bought those asics and didn't or even worse SOLD those asics at a loss only to find out they were planning all along not to change the algo and kept it from the community.
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I was pretty butthurt about the reversal on ASIC-resistance, too, but that was >1 month ago and I've since gotten over it. Furthermore, CaptDero did explain why he decided to stick with CNv0, and while I still don't entirely agree with his reasons, I do think his reasons are, well, reasonable.



It's pretty hard "To get over" something so impactful as changing the POW as it effects the entire economy. I can see how you can get over it easier as now you are more embedded in the project but making an announcement and then just ignoring that announcement and the fact people make economic choices based on that information is criminal behavior. And yes it is criminal. If any security manager in the world made an announcement that affected price and then did not follow through without even an attempt of forewarning their investors they would be in front of a judge. He is lucky he is anonymous and I recommend he stay so.

But It is your choice whether to get over it or not and it is everyone elses choice, no amount of yelling at each other is going to change that fact. I do not disagree with the argument to stay cryptonote, that is not the point. the point is how it was handled. If it was announce right away so people could plan accordingly as soon as it was decided then sure it's easy to get over but if it was used to prop up the price while the pre-mine was being dumped then thats another thing altogether. And right now we do not know if that is what happened.
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Boys and girls it's not FUD if it's true.

Where is the proof that the premine is still intact?

It is a simple thing to provide a veiwkey.

Since it is not being provided one can only assume nefarious reasons.

I'm not a cryptographer or a programmer, but my understanding is that a viewkey only shows current balance and incoming transactions in CryptoNote for privacy reasons. CaptDero has said he is working on a way to provide an independent way of verifying the premine balance, but as of now this is, indeed, a matter of trust, rather than proof.

But definitely not a case of "one can only assume nefarious reasons"; there are plenty of innocent reasons for the premine to remain unlocked and some of them have been posted to this thread.


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By lying about the ASIC change they not only caused the value to drop because of inflation but alienated a large segment of their base that would have bought those asics and didn't or even worse SOLD those asics at a loss only to find out they were planning all along not to change the algo and kept it from the community.
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I was pretty butthurt about the reversal on ASIC-resistance, too, but that was >1 month ago and I've since gotten over it. Furthermore, CaptDero did explain why he decided to stick with CNv0, and while I still don't entirely agree with his reasons, I do think his reasons are, well, reasonable.

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Not only FUD :)
Boys and girls it's not FUD if it's true.

Where is the proof that the premine is still intact?

It is a simple thing to provide a veiwkey.

Since it is not being provided one can only assume nefarious reasons.

This is a logical conclusion as it is a fact that this DEV team has lied to the community already.

It does not matter if they lied through the community managers as well or not.

The price will not recover as long as these answers are not addressed and insider ASICS pump out coins.

By lying about the ASIC change they not only caused the value to drop because of inflation but alienated a large segment of their base that would have bought those asics and didn't or even worse SOLD those asics at a loss only to find out they were planning all along not to change the algo and kept it from the community.

Anyway this coin even though has great technical prowess is nothing more than a scam.

Maybe the next launch of this code will be a fair distribution. I'm sure it won't be too long as this shit is heading to single digits.


do u want to close ur fucking mouth?

all the time with the same bullshit... if u dont like the project go away ok? i m tired every day to read fucking bullshit on this project.

i m dero holder and i like to be scammed ok? and like me many others... are u happy now?


in any case:

We've moved past viewkey and ASIC arguments weeks ago here in bct

It is impossible in CN to see outgoing TXs without a spend key


legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Boys and girls it's not FUD if it's true.

Where is the proof that the premine is still intact?

It is a simple thing to provide a veiwkey.

Since it is not being provided one can only assume nefarious reasons.

This is a logical conclusion as it is a fact that this DEV team has lied to the community already.

It does not matter if they lied through the community managers as well or not.

The price will not recover as long as these answers are not addressed and insider ASICS pump out coins.

By lying about the ASIC change they not only caused the value to drop because of inflation but alienated a large segment of their base that would have bought those asics and didn't or even worse SOLD those asics at a loss only to find out they were planning all along not to change the algo and kept it from the community.

Anyway this coin even though has great technical prowess is nothing more than a scam.

Maybe the next launch of this code will be a fair distribution. I'm sure it won't be too long as this shit is heading to single digits.
newbie
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FUD Formula:
FUD = AD + NT + NAeP + CPiT + URP + NSC + PoR

FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
AD: Anonymous Developer
NT: Non-Transparency (e.g. unlocked pre-mined wallet / secretly transferring out the pre-mined balance)
NAeP: Not addressing existing Problem correctly (e.g. uncontrolled block/side-block generation, coin emission is not as per whitepaper.)
CPiT: Communication problem among team member (e.g. key team member(s) suddenly left)
URP: Unreleased Product
NSC: No Source Code Released
PoR: Personal Level of Risk-Tolerance

I think it's logical and normal to have some FUD in this project. Once all components are removed, the FUD will be gone by itself.
Currently buying Dero is like gambling with your money. If you can't afford to lose your money, please stay away and watch. Otherwise, let's FOMO, cross our finger and support the development team so that they can deliver the new crypto tech.

@yss105 Can you add NBS + NF + OD fields in your formula. It will add more weight and credibility to your formula esle you are also spreading fudd.
NBS: New Blockchain from scratch , yeah Dero has written new blockchain from scratch.
NF: Not Fork  , Yeah Dero is not fork. Its original.  How many coins you see which are not forks.
OD: Original Developers.  Yeah Dero have original developers and maintainers.

 Have Fun, you cannot stop Dero.

Good points. But your additional components are actually good factors that create FOMO instead of adding more FUD

FOMO = NBS + NF + OD

FOMO: Fear of Missing Out

If FOMO > FUD then [People will buy and price will go up]
If FOMO < FUD then [People will sell and price will go down]
If FOMO = FUD ---->>>> Stagnant.

I am not trying to stop Dero. I support Dero. But if I can contribute to make/push it to be more open/transparent it'll be better for the community as a whole.
jr. member
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FUD Formula:
FUD = AD + NT + NAeP + CPiT + URP + NSC + PoR

FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
AD: Anonymous Developer
NT: Non-Transparency (e.g. unlocked pre-mined wallet / secretly transferring out the pre-mined balance)
NAeP: Not addressing existing Problem correctly (e.g. uncontrolled block/side-block generation, coin emission is not as per whitepaper.)
CPiT: Communication problem among team member (e.g. key team member(s) suddenly left)
URP: Unreleased Product
NSC: No Source Code Released
PoR: Personal Level of Risk-Tolerance

I think it's logical and normal to have some FUD in this project. Once all components are removed, the FUD will be gone by itself.
Currently buying Dero is like gambling with your money. If you can't afford to lose your money, please stay away and watch. Otherwise, let's FOMO, cross our finger and support the development team so that they can deliver the new crypto tech.

@yss105 Can you add NBS + NF + OD fields in your formula. It will add more weight and credibility to your formula esle you are also spreading fudd.
NBS: New Blockchain from scratch , yeah Dero has written new blockchain from scratch.
NF: Not Fork  , Yeah Dero is not fork. Its original.  How many coins you see which are not forks.
OD: Original Developers.  Yeah Dero have original developers and maintainers.

 Have Fun, you cannot stop Dero.
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