I think there is a good chance someone will get into trouble for trying to steal a few million $ worth of crypto. This could be potentially interesting.
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You kids are still spamming the wrong thread.
At one point i hope you realize u've made ETC look unserious as fuck... this shit looks like yobit now.
Jeezes christ kids.
Please stop the spamming of crap.
Stick to the ETC threads please.
Here are links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0;topicseen <-- bitpops super censored thread. (never before seen anyone delete as many posts as this)
or this unmoderated IMMUTABLE thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-etc-ethereum-classic-immutable-smart-contracts-unmoderated-1567565 <--- not beeing massdeleted by bitpop.
This was meant for you most active kids in here.
That is
@bitpop
@roselee
@becoin
I suspect you are talking in the eth-thread because its unmoderated/immutable due to @bitpops mass deleting of posts in the ETC thread.
You should take this up with @bitpop
You are harming the price of BOTH coins with your endless crying and spamming, on top of making this look like yobits kindergarden.
Please stick to the right threads.
find the ignor roselee and be happy
like i said so many times
this is a free thread
it says welcome to the beginning
not:
and that is important
welcome only to those who are ok for frostminer
Stop beeing retarded. Its because you are in the wrong thread.
Most if this is pure fudspam, at kid level trolling.
When you get a bit older you will hopefully realize that you are making ETCs community look like a bunch of 12 year olds.
Get that everyone, do as your told. This is the dictator follow the rules even if the dictator is enriching himself with your money thread goddamnit! Rules are rules....except that one about the public ledger blockchain thing dictator can do whatever he wants with that lol!
Now get to the barber, I see you all have not received the Buterin...no more rollback until I see wall to wall Buterin cuts!!
Thanks
You kids are still spamming the wrong thread.
At one point i hope you realize u've made ETC look unserious as fuck... this shit looks like yobit now.
Jeezes christ kids.
Please stop the spamming of crap.
Stick to the ETC threads please.
Here are links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0;topicseen <-- bitpops super censored thread. (never before seen anyone delete as many posts as this)
or this unmoderated IMMUTABLE thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-etc-ethereum-classic-immutable-smart-contracts-unmoderated-1567565 <--- not beeing massdeleted by bitpop.
This was meant for you most active kids in here.
That is
@bitpop
@roselee
@becoin
I suspect you are talking in the eth-thread because its unmoderated/immutable due to @bitpops mass deleting of posts in the ETC thread.
You should take this up with @bitpop
You are harming the price of BOTH coins with your endless crying and spamming, on top of making this look like yobits kindergarden.
Please stick to the right threads.
find the ignor roselee and be happy
like i said so many times
this is a free thread
it says welcome to the beginning
not:
and that is important
welcome only to those who are ok for frostminer
Stop beeing retarded. Its because you are in the wrong thread.
Most if this is pure fudspam, at kid level trolling.
When you get a bit older you will hopefully realize that you are making ETCs community look like a bunch of 12 year olds.
Get that everyone, do as your told. This is the dictator follow the rules even if the dictator is enriching himself with your money thread goddamnit! Rules are rules....except that one about the public ledger blockchain thing dictator can do whatever he wants with that lol!
Now get to the barber, I see you all have not received the Buterin...no more rollback until I see wall to wall Buterin cuts!!
Its seemingly hard for you to understand this.
That explains enough for most of us.
You kids are still spamming the wrong thread.
At one point i hope you realize u've made ETC look unserious as fuck... this shit looks like yobit now.
Jeezes christ kids.
Please stop the spamming of crap.
Stick to the ETC threads please.
Here are links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0;topicseen <-- bitpops super censored thread. (never before seen anyone delete as many posts as this)
or this unmoderated IMMUTABLE thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-etc-ethereum-classic-immutable-smart-contracts-unmoderated-1567565 <--- not beeing massdeleted by bitpop.
This was meant for you most active kids in here.
That is
@bitpop
@roselee
@becoin
I suspect you are talking in the eth-thread because its unmoderated/immutable due to @bitpops mass deleting of posts in the ETC thread.
You should take this up with @bitpop
You are harming the price of BOTH coins with your endless crying and spamming, on top of making this look like yobits kindergarden.
Please stick to the right threads.
find the ignor roselee and be happy
like i said so many times
this is a free thread
it says welcome to the beginning
not:
and that is important
welcome only to those who are ok for frostminer
Stop beeing retarded. Its because you are in the wrong thread.
Most if this is pure fudspam, at kid level trolling.
When you get a bit older you will hopefully realize that you are making ETCs community look like a bunch of 12 year olds.
Get that everyone, do as your told. This is the dictator follow the rules even if the dictator is enriching himself with your money thread goddamnit! Rules are rules....except that one about the public ledger blockchain thing dictator can do whatever he wants with that lol!
Now get to the barber, I see you all have not received the Buterin...no more rollback until I see wall to wall Buterin cuts!!
It is very obvious there are posters on this forum that are hell bent on continuing to put Ethereum down anyway possible. They are not here to simple discuss things related to Ethereum. They can easily go to or create their own thread. These posters are going out of their way on purpose. This shows their malice. The arguments they bring up are so ridiculous, implausible, historical contradictory, and without any kind of credibility that they are not worth the time to bother about replying to. This may very well be the continuous co-ordinated effort by very few to try to keep etc alive in all ways possible. They are trying anything and everything.
The simple consideration that they could be trying to build there own community in there own space getting on with their own thing instead of doing this shows the psychology intent behind them and what they are all about.
The way things have and are historically playing out, continually enforces that the hackers and now any affiliates have alot to lose in this, and their whole world will be to extract as much out of this as possible. They are dealing with life changing amounts of money for themselves. Coupled to some peoples want to destroy Ethereum that will only be allayed by them trying to take control of it.
The simple consideration that they could be trying to build there own community in there own space getting on with their own thing instead of doing this shows the psychology intent behind them and what they are all about.
The way things have and are historically playing out, continually enforces that the hackers and now any affiliates have alot to lose in this, and their whole world will be to extract as much out of this as possible. They are dealing with life changing amounts of money for themselves. Coupled to some peoples want to destroy Ethereum that will only be allayed by them trying to take control of it.
Amen.
Forkers tried very hard to destroy Ethereum but they couldn't. They should move on to some other space to whine. This thread is for Ethereum.
The Ethereum Classic has already declared its independence, so it should create a thread for its own.
Ethereum Classic has never been dependent in the first place. This is why there is no point to declare its independence.
The Ethereum Forked has already declared its dependence, so it should create a thread for its own.
Correct. ETC is nothing like ETH. Yes ETC's agenda is different than that of ETH. They are now diverging.
ETC is out there to develop an immutable blockchain free from a god head like figure that dictates what to do for the benefit of the few. No individual or group will be allowed to make decisions that will roll back, tweak and tinker with the transaction history. ETC I suspect will also stay with POW far much longer than ETH. So miners are welcome to make the switch. It is they who are needed to secure the network and help it grow. In one year I speculate that ETC's hash rate will be equal ETH's hash rate if they have not switched to Casper yet.
ETC is out there to develop an immutable blockchain free from a god head like figure that dictates what to do for the benefit of the few. No individual or group will be allowed to make decisions that will roll back, tweak and tinker with the transaction history. ETC I suspect will also stay with POW far much longer than ETH. So miners are welcome to make the switch. It is they who are needed to secure the network and help it grow. In one year I speculate that ETC's hash rate will be equal ETH's hash rate if they have not switched to Casper yet.
If the ETC becomes PoW only coins, I think most miners will mine it if it survives the dump of the DAO hacker.
You are overestimating the whole "DAO hacker will dump" thing. It will not kill ETC, the original chain will continue to be developed, there will be growth and will live on. So my suggestion is to split your ETH to the equivalent amount of ETC you can get and hold them. Dumping them would be pointless because there is value in having a stake in both platforms.
There is good news on the ETC side. Charles Hoskinson has committed in helping the ETC community to get organized and create a road map, set up a system of governance, contribute code and get his developers to work on ETC and finally he is providing some funds from his own money to maintain development. He also mentioned that he will be looking for investors to raise money for the platform. The interview where he mentioned it is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXc4lxBqkBw
It is very obvious there are posters on this forum that are hell bent on continuing to put Ethereum down anyway possible. They are not here to simple discuss things related to Ethereum. They can easily go to or create their own thread. These posters are going out of their way on purpose. This shows their malice. The arguments they bring up are so ridiculous, implausible, historical contradictory, and without any kind of credibility that they are not worth the time to bother about replying to. This may very well be the continuous co-ordinated effort by very few to try to keep etc alive in all ways possible. They are trying anything and everything.
The simple consideration that they could be trying to build there own community in there own space getting on with their own thing instead of doing this shows the psychology intent behind them and what they are all about.
The way things have and are historically playing out, continually enforces that the hackers and now any affiliates have alot to lose in this, and their whole world will be to extract as much out of this as possible. They are dealing with life changing amounts of money for themselves. Coupled to some peoples want to destroy Ethereum that will only be allayed by them trying to take control of it.
The simple consideration that they could be trying to build there own community in there own space getting on with their own thing instead of doing this shows the psychology intent behind them and what they are all about.
The way things have and are historically playing out, continually enforces that the hackers and now any affiliates have alot to lose in this, and their whole world will be to extract as much out of this as possible. They are dealing with life changing amounts of money for themselves. Coupled to some peoples want to destroy Ethereum that will only be allayed by them trying to take control of it.
Amen.
Forkers tried very hard to destroy Ethereum but they couldn't. They should move on to some other space to whine. This thread is for Ethereum.
The Ethereum Classic has already declared its independence, so it should create a thread for its own.
It is very obvious there are posters on this forum that are hell bent on continuing to put Ethereum down anyway possible. They are not here to simple discuss things related to Ethereum. They can easily go to or create their own thread. These posters are going out of their way on purpose. This shows their malice. The arguments they bring up are so ridiculous, implausible, historical contradictory, and without any kind of credibility that they are not worth the time to bother about replying to. This may very well be the continuous co-ordinated effort by very few to try to keep etc alive in all ways possible. They are trying anything and everything.
The simple consideration that they could be trying to build there own community in there own space getting on with their own thing instead of doing this shows the psychology intent behind them and what they are all about.
The way things have and are historically playing out, continually enforces that the hackers and now any affiliates have alot to lose in this, and their whole world will be to extract as much out of this as possible. They are dealing with life changing amounts of money for themselves. Coupled to some peoples want to destroy Ethereum that will only be allayed by them trying to take control of it.
The simple consideration that they could be trying to build there own community in there own space getting on with their own thing instead of doing this shows the psychology intent behind them and what they are all about.
The way things have and are historically playing out, continually enforces that the hackers and now any affiliates have alot to lose in this, and their whole world will be to extract as much out of this as possible. They are dealing with life changing amounts of money for themselves. Coupled to some peoples want to destroy Ethereum that will only be allayed by them trying to take control of it.
Amen.
Forkers tried very hard to destroy Ethereum but they couldn't. They should move on to some other space to whine. This thread is for Ethereum.
It is very obvious there are posters on this forum that are hell bent on continuing to put Ethereum down anyway possible. They are not here to simple discuss things related to Ethereum. They can easily go to or create their own thread. These posters are going out of their way on purpose. This shows their malice. The arguments they bring up are so ridiculous, implausible, historical contradictory, and without any kind of credibility that they are not worth the time to bother about replying to. This may very well be the continuous co-ordinated effort by very few to try to keep etc alive in all ways possible. They are trying anything and everything.
The simple consideration that they could be trying to build there own community in there own space getting on with their own thing instead of doing this shows the psychology intent behind them and what they are all about.
The way things have and are historically playing out, continually enforces that the hackers and now any affiliates have alot to lose in this, and their whole world will be to extract as much out of this as possible. They are dealing with life changing amounts of money for themselves. Coupled to some peoples want to destroy Ethereum that will only be allayed by them trying to take control of it.
The simple consideration that they could be trying to build there own community in there own space getting on with their own thing instead of doing this shows the psychology intent behind them and what they are all about.
The way things have and are historically playing out, continually enforces that the hackers and now any affiliates have alot to lose in this, and their whole world will be to extract as much out of this as possible. They are dealing with life changing amounts of money for themselves. Coupled to some peoples want to destroy Ethereum that will only be allayed by them trying to take control of it.
You kids are still spamming the wrong thread.
At one point i hope you realize u've made ETC look unserious as fuck... this shit looks like yobit now.
Jeezes christ kids.
Please stop the spamming of crap.
Stick to the ETC threads please.
Here are links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0;topicseen <-- bitpops super censored thread. (never before seen anyone delete as many posts as this)
or this unmoderated IMMUTABLE thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-etc-ethereum-classic-immutable-smart-contracts-unmoderated-1567565 <--- not beeing massdeleted by bitpop.
This was meant for you most active kids in here.
That is
@bitpop
@roselee
@becoin
I suspect you are talking in the eth-thread because its unmoderated/immutable due to @bitpops mass deleting of posts in the ETC thread.
You should take this up with @bitpop
You are harming the price of BOTH coins with your endless crying and spamming, on top of making this look like yobits kindergarden.
Please stick to the right threads.
find the ignor roselee and be happy
like i said so many times
this is a free thread
it says welcome to the beginning
not:
and that is important
welcome only to those who are ok for frostminer
Stop beeing retarded. Its because you are in the wrong thread.
Most if this is pure fudspam, at kid level trolling.
When you get a bit older you will hopefully realize that you are making ETCs community look like a bunch of 12 year olds.
Correct. ETC is nothing like ETH. Yes ETC's agenda is different than that of ETH. They are now diverging.
ETC is out there to develop an immutable blockchain free from a god head like figure that dictates what to do for the benefit of the few. No individual or group will be allowed to make decisions that will roll back, tweak and tinker with the transaction history. ETC I suspect will also stay with POW far much longer than ETH. So miners are welcome to make the switch. It is they who are needed to secure the network and help it grow. In one year I speculate that ETC's hash rate will be equal ETH's hash rate if they have not switched to Casper yet.
ETC is out there to develop an immutable blockchain free from a god head like figure that dictates what to do for the benefit of the few. No individual or group will be allowed to make decisions that will roll back, tweak and tinker with the transaction history. ETC I suspect will also stay with POW far much longer than ETH. So miners are welcome to make the switch. It is they who are needed to secure the network and help it grow. In one year I speculate that ETC's hash rate will be equal ETH's hash rate if they have not switched to Casper yet.
If the ETC becomes PoW only coins, I think most miners will mine it if it survives the dump of the DAO hacker.
Correct. ETC is nothing like ETH. Yes ETC's agenda is different than that of ETH. They are now diverging.
ETC is out there to develop an immutable blockchain free from a god head like figure that dictates what to do for the benefit of the few. No individual or group will be allowed to make decisions that will roll back, tweak and tinker with the transaction history. ETC I suspect will also stay with POW far much longer than ETH. So miners are welcome to make the switch. It is they who are needed to secure the network and help it grow. In one year I speculate that ETC's hash rate will be equal ETH's hash rate if they have not switched to Casper yet.
ETC is out there to develop an immutable blockchain free from a god head like figure that dictates what to do for the benefit of the few. No individual or group will be allowed to make decisions that will roll back, tweak and tinker with the transaction history. ETC I suspect will also stay with POW far much longer than ETH. So miners are welcome to make the switch. It is they who are needed to secure the network and help it grow. In one year I speculate that ETC's hash rate will be equal ETH's hash rate if they have not switched to Casper yet.
You kids are still spamming the wrong thread.
At one point i hope you realize u've made ETC look unserious as fuck... this shit looks like yobit now.
Jeezes christ kids.
Please stop the spamming of crap.
Stick to the ETC threads please.
Here are links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0;topicseen <-- bitpops super censored thread. (never before seen anyone delete as many posts as this)
or this unmoderated IMMUTABLE thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-etc-ethereum-classic-immutable-smart-contracts-unmoderated-1567565 <--- not beeing massdeleted by bitpop.
This was meant for you most active kids in here.
That is
@bitpop
@roselee
@becoin
I suspect you are talking in the eth-thread because its unmoderated/immutable due to @bitpops mass deleting of posts in the ETC thread.
You should take this up with @bitpop
You are harming the price of BOTH coins with your endless crying and spamming, on top of making this look like yobits kindergarden.
Please stick to the right threads.
find the ignor roselee and be happy
like i said so many times
this is a free thread
it says welcome to the beginning
not:
and that is important
welcome only to those who are ok for frostminer
Actually, all of us are tired of your whining. So, why don`t you go and fock yourselves at whatever thread you want. If this is not moderated, it doesn`t mean we all have to smell @bitpop, @roselee and @becoin shits that are dumped every minute here. Nobody is going to explain to you why some coin don`t have value and the other one have. You are just idiotic trolls of a new generation and we understand it well. So get your shits and spread them elsewhere.
About the diff bomb:
https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/guides/what-is-the-ethereum-ice-age/
Part 1 - What is the Ethereum Ice Age
The Ethereum Ice Age is a difficulty adjustment scheme that was put in place to ensure that everyone has an incentive to move to the new blockchain once the hard-fork is implemented. It was introduced on the 7th of September (2015-09-07), about 11 months ago and it's programmed to raise difficulty exponentially.
Click here to see a difficulty simulation of the increase in difficulty.
It's impossible for miners to keep up with the increase of difficulty which would raise block time and it would make the blockchain freeze, hence the name Ice Age.
question is the deadline for the diff bomb september 2016 or 2017?
https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/guides/what-is-the-ethereum-ice-age/
Part 1 - What is the Ethereum Ice Age
The Ethereum Ice Age is a difficulty adjustment scheme that was put in place to ensure that everyone has an incentive to move to the new blockchain once the hard-fork is implemented. It was introduced on the 7th of September (2015-09-07), about 11 months ago and it's programmed to raise difficulty exponentially.
Click here to see a difficulty simulation of the increase in difficulty.
It's impossible for miners to keep up with the increase of difficulty which would raise block time and it would make the blockchain freeze, hence the name Ice Age.
question is the deadline for the diff bomb september 2016 or 2017?
You kids are still spamming the wrong thread.
At one point i hope you realize u've made ETC look unserious as fuck... this shit looks like yobit now.
Jeezes christ kids.
Please stop the spamming of crap.
Stick to the ETC threads please.
Here are links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0;topicseen <-- bitpops super censored thread. (never before seen anyone delete as many posts as this)
or this unmoderated IMMUTABLE thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-etc-ethereum-classic-immutable-smart-contracts-unmoderated-1567565 <--- not beeing massdeleted by bitpop.
This was meant for you most active kids in here.
That is
@bitpop
@roselee
@becoin
I suspect you are talking in the eth-thread because its unmoderated/immutable due to @bitpops mass deleting of posts in the ETC thread.
You should take this up with @bitpop
You are harming the price of BOTH coins with your endless crying and spamming, on top of making this look like yobits kindergarden.
Please stick to the right threads.
find the ignor roselee and be happy
like i said so many times
this is a free thread
it says welcome to the beginning
not:
and that is important
welcome only to those who are ok for frostminer
Immutable: In object-oriented and functional programming, an immutable object (unchangeable object) is an object whose state cannot be modified after it is created. This never applied to Ethereum, because the crowdfunding period pre-announced a POS stage, which always required a FORK too implement. Clearly, the ETC CAMPERS have erased a lot of announcements to suit their own agenda!
Immutable blockchain, not immutable code. ETC is not against forks: "[...] system forks of the codebase are only possible when fixing protocol level vulnerabilities, bugs, or providing functionality upgrades" and " transactions or ledger history cannot for any reason be reversed or modified."
Which fork now, has the same principals as when Ethereum was created? ETH or ETC?
Isn't it obvious? ETHC changed nothing and has same principals as when Ethereum was created. ETHF mutated to bail out greedy DAO speculators.
I was kinda thinking ETH was the old principal since it retained the identifier, but reading news and forums about both forks is abit confusing.... kinda like a soap opera, person W sleeping with X to backstab person Y who just murdered Z all because person T framed person V for a crime that person didn't commit because all along it was person S 's sinister plan.
I'm kinda tempted to build another mining rig just to have the bases covered.... ETC + ETH or BUST....
Technically ETC is the same ETH as it was before the fork, i.e. unmodified blockchain, same code.
ETH despite retaining the ticker has a modified chain - it injected a transaction to move DAO funds into a withdrawal contract.
So the basic principles as stated on ethereum.org ("applications that run exactly as programmed without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third party interference.") hold true with ETC but not with ETH.
However as I'm sure you well know politics runs much deeper than that, mainly due to Vitalik and the Foundation backing ETH and not ETC.
Which fork now, has the same principals as when Ethereum was created? ETH or ETC?
Isn't it obvious? ETHC changed nothing and has same principals as when Ethereum was created. ETHF mutated to bail out greedy DAO speculators.
I was kinda thinking ETH was the old principal since it retained the identifier, but reading news and forums about both forks is abit confusing.... kinda like a soap opera, person W sleeping with X to backstab person Y who just murdered Z all because person T framed person V for a crime that person didn't commit because all along it was person S 's sinister plan.
I'm kinda tempted to build another mining rig just to have the bases covered.... ETC + ETH or BUST....
You kids are still spamming the wrong thread.
At one point i hope you realize u've made ETC look unserious as fuck... this shit looks like yobit now.
Jeezes christ kids.
Please stop the spamming of crap.
Stick to the ETC threads please.
Here are links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.0;topicseen <-- bitpops super censored thread. (never before seen anyone delete as many posts as this)
or this unmoderated IMMUTABLE thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-etc-ethereum-classic-immutable-smart-contracts-unmoderated-1567565 <--- not beeing massdeleted by bitpop.
This was meant for you most active kids in here.
That is
@bitpop
@roselee
@becoin
I suspect you are talking in the eth-thread because its unmoderated/immutable due to @bitpops mass deleting of posts in the ETC thread.
You should take this up with @bitpop
You are harming the price of BOTH coins with your endless crying and spamming, on top of making this look like yobits kindergarden.
Please stick to the right threads.
Which fork now, has the same principals as when Ethereum was created? ETH or ETC?
Isn't it obvious? ETHC changed nothing and has same principals as when Ethereum was created. ETHF mutated to bail out greedy DAO speculators.
in the past, it was simple... mine ethereum. Then some hooplehead came along and hacked DAO which set in motion a fork.... and now a war between fork sides.
All I want to do is mine, cash out some to pay for the electric and hold onto the rest.... I don't care which one it is, as long as its not going to have someone say fookit and unplug the whole damn thing.
I have enough reality and stress in my life, so in my hobby of crypto mining, I tend to tune out and ignore the bickering, fighting and politics... because, its a hobby and hobbies are suppose to be fun,,, right?
Therefore, I'm abit concerned which fork to go with... my gut feeling has been "stick with the ETH" after all, it was Ethereum that began with the ETH identifier. Now, I'm getting a bit confused.... due to my curiosity and reading a few of these bickering posts...
Which fork now, has the same principals as when Ethereum was created? ETH or ETC?
Now that the actual code for Ethereum is in the courts - something about stolen intellectual property - Which fork does that effect or will it kill both forks?
Has anyone done a Pro - Con breakdown for both ETH and ETC? if so, please post it. It could be a very nice summary to have.
All I want to do is mine, cash out some to pay for the electric and hold onto the rest.... I don't care which one it is, as long as its not going to have someone say fookit and unplug the whole damn thing.
I have enough reality and stress in my life, so in my hobby of crypto mining, I tend to tune out and ignore the bickering, fighting and politics... because, its a hobby and hobbies are suppose to be fun,,, right?
Therefore, I'm abit concerned which fork to go with... my gut feeling has been "stick with the ETH" after all, it was Ethereum that began with the ETH identifier. Now, I'm getting a bit confused.... due to my curiosity and reading a few of these bickering posts...
Which fork now, has the same principals as when Ethereum was created? ETH or ETC?
Now that the actual code for Ethereum is in the courts - something about stolen intellectual property - Which fork does that effect or will it kill both forks?
Has anyone done a Pro - Con breakdown for both ETH and ETC? if so, please post it. It could be a very nice summary to have.
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