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legendary
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https://youtu.be/OiZCNXG2dRY

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Vitalik‬ created Ethereum with stolen IP - Now I want to us to take it back with ETC!

big banking have taken over the  blockchain through vitalik

There are plethora (a lot) of Bitcointalk Forum posts over many years discussing:

What additional products can be built into Wallet.QTs? What needs to be changed to the original BTC design to put or allow more products to be built into Wallet.QTs?

Anyone, who put up a post answering those two questions, could make a similarly claim!

Why is this person's claim, more valid then another person's claim?

If, someone wanted too - they could go through all the Bitcointalk and Reddit posts over the last few years and we could find a couple of 100 people, who could claim to be the originators for ideas used in Ethereum.

  

sr. member
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Solo mining ETH....

What would be a good hashrate to have to see at least 1 block found daily?

I'm just curious...

....it popped into my mind while putting together a mining rig with 4 - R9 295x2 GPUs, powered by a DPS-2980AB (2980 watt) power supply--- it was going to be 5 - R9 295X2 GPUs, but I decided to give the power supply some headroom...

You need about 800 MH/s to have one block a day at the current difficulty.That mining rig will not give you more than 240 MH/s.

Thanks.... there's my goal for mining rig hardware... ;-)
legendary
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https://youtu.be/OiZCNXG2dRY

quote:

Vitalik‬ created Ethereum with stolen IP - Now I want to us to take it back with ETC!

big banking have taken over the  blockchain through vitalik
sr. member
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etc wouldn't have survived if they wouldn't have paid hundreds of coins for its support, at least not this far and not this way.

just for curiosity, who's "they"??
full member
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now the 2 communites trying to fight against each other, maybe both will loose.
legendary
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id like to know how that is going now


https://bitflikz.com/blogs/news/the-theft-of-a-1-billion-dollar-blockchain-community-legal-action-begins
 July 26, 2016
The Theft of a $1 Billion Dollar Blockchain -Ethereum/Slock.it Facing Legal Action

We have decided to launch legal action against the Ethereum foundation and the Slock.it development team. Please join us if you feel you have been effected in any way through the actions of the Ethereum foundation or Slock.it.

We are motivated by our crypto morals, ethics and the unspoken law within our culture. We are backed by the real word legal system and the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Not only do we challenge the foundation but we demand a full public Audit of the funds and transactions related to the Ethereum Foundation and developers.

Has there been a crime here?

Most certainly.
"We are backed by the real word legal system and the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Not only do we challenge the foundation but we demand a full public Audit of the funds and transactions related to the Ethereum Foundation and developers."

Oh now you are backed by the very institutions that you despised. The problem with these people is that they have double standards. They themselves do not have solid base principles and just sway wherever it is advantageous for them. What is the matter with people today?

THANK YOU!  Hit the nail on the head with this post.. There is a lack of morals when it comes to money .. EtC sure takes the cake on this one.!

BR
d57heinz
etc wouldn't have survived if they wouldn't have paid hundreds of coins for its support, at least not this far and not this way.
You just forget how many coins have been paid from the beggining for the Ethereum bubble to survive this far! ETHC price is just a fair assessment of the potential. ETHF price is a bubble that is going to burst.
hero member
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Move On !!!!!!
id like to know how that is going now


https://bitflikz.com/blogs/news/the-theft-of-a-1-billion-dollar-blockchain-community-legal-action-begins
 July 26, 2016
The Theft of a $1 Billion Dollar Blockchain -Ethereum/Slock.it Facing Legal Action

We have decided to launch legal action against the Ethereum foundation and the Slock.it development team. Please join us if you feel you have been effected in any way through the actions of the Ethereum foundation or Slock.it.

We are motivated by our crypto morals, ethics and the unspoken law within our culture. We are backed by the real word legal system and the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Not only do we challenge the foundation but we demand a full public Audit of the funds and transactions related to the Ethereum Foundation and developers.

Has there been a crime here?

Most certainly.
"We are backed by the real word legal system and the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Not only do we challenge the foundation but we demand a full public Audit of the funds and transactions related to the Ethereum Foundation and developers."

Oh now you are backed by the very institutions that you despised. The problem with these people is that they have double standards. They themselves do not have solid base principles and just sway wherever it is advantageous for them. What is the matter with people today?

THANK YOU!  Hit the nail on the head with this post.. There is a lack of morals when it comes to money .. EtC sure takes the cake on this one.!

BR
d57heinz
etc wouldn't have survived if they wouldn't have paid hundreds of coins for its support, at least not this far and not this way.
legendary
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Eth taking a big dump

thanks for welcoming me back to your scammy etc thread...i was going to stay away from there...but seems you etc troll idiots just cant stay away from here.... Tongue
legendary
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Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
id like to know how that is going now


https://bitflikz.com/blogs/news/the-theft-of-a-1-billion-dollar-blockchain-community-legal-action-begins
 July 26, 2016
The Theft of a $1 Billion Dollar Blockchain -Ethereum/Slock.it Facing Legal Action

We have decided to launch legal action against the Ethereum foundation and the Slock.it development team. Please join us if you feel you have been effected in any way through the actions of the Ethereum foundation or Slock.it.

We are motivated by our crypto morals, ethics and the unspoken law within our culture. We are backed by the real word legal system and the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Not only do we challenge the foundation but we demand a full public Audit of the funds and transactions related to the Ethereum Foundation and developers.

Has there been a crime here?

Most certainly.

"We are backed by the real word legal system and the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Not only do we challenge the foundation but we demand a full public Audit of the funds and transactions related to the Ethereum Foundation and developers."

Oh now you are backed by the very institutions that you despised. The problem with these people is that they have double standards. They themselves do not have solid base principles and just sway wherever it is advantageous for them. What is the matter with people today?

THANK YOU!  Hit the nail on the head with this post.. There is a lack of morals when it comes to money .. EtC sure takes the cake on this one.!

BR
d57heinz
legendary
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Obviously, a crime prevention implementation for a new businesses built on a New Crypto Network is a Noteworthy Deed
Obviously, what is crime and what isn't must be decided by court of law and not by Ethereum central bankers.
legendary
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The essential problem is that unless you own DAO tokens, you have no reason to choose Ethereum over Ethereum Classic. They are basically the same thing with different recorded versions of history. The entire thing is open source, so if the Ethereum developers come out with new features, Ethereum classic will adopt them almost immediately (unless they’re similarly controversial). Any Ethereum developer with DAO tokens now works against himself.

It is high time every die hard forker read this really veeeeeery slow and understand it!

Not really,

Every investor or GPU miner wants too maximise the number of businesses built on a new Crypto Network.

Obviously, a crime prevention implementation for new businesses built on a New Crypto Network is a Noteworthy Deed

------------------------------------------------On the BTC or Dollar Price------------------------------------

It really does not matter to me where ETH too trade at $7 dollars or lower for entire POW period.

Because, GPU mining for accumulation is entirely focused on the Major Change: only the post-POS price is of importance to me.

These posts on this ANN, are not supposed to be used to pump the price.

They are solely feedback for the Ethereum Foundation and reminders of future appreciations in Ethereum values, since we've got ETC CAMPERS on this ANN Grin

legendary
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id like to know how that is going now


https://bitflikz.com/blogs/news/the-theft-of-a-1-billion-dollar-blockchain-community-legal-action-begins
 July 26, 2016
The Theft of a $1 Billion Dollar Blockchain -Ethereum/Slock.it Facing Legal Action

We have decided to launch legal action against the Ethereum foundation and the Slock.it development team. Please join us if you feel you have been effected in any way through the actions of the Ethereum foundation or Slock.it.

We are motivated by our crypto morals, ethics and the unspoken law within our culture. We are backed by the real word legal system and the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Not only do we challenge the foundation but we demand a full public Audit of the funds and transactions related to the Ethereum Foundation and developers.

Has there been a crime here?

Most certainly.

"We are backed by the real word legal system and the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Not only do we challenge the foundation but we demand a full public Audit of the funds and transactions related to the Ethereum Foundation and developers."

Oh now you are backed by the very institutions that you despised. The problem with these people is that they have double standards. They themselves do not have solid base principles and just sway wherever it is advantageous for them. What is the matter with people today?
sr. member
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The essential problem is that unless you own DAO tokens, you have no reason to choose Ethereum over Ethereum Classic. They are basically the same thing with different recorded versions of history. The entire thing is open source, so if the Ethereum developers come out with new features, Ethereum classic will adopt them almost immediately (unless they’re similarly controversial). Any Ethereum developer with DAO tokens now works against himself.

It is high time every die hard forker read this really veeeeeery slow and understand it!

Does this mean that if a dapp is released for ETH it will also work for ETC but much cheaper (at current exchange prices).

Let's say you have a decentralised 'airbnb' app. It will work on both blockchains i assume, but the content will not automatically be on both?! If i want to rent my apartment and do it on the ETH blockchain it won't appear on the ETC blockchain. So if this is true then there is a big difference between ETH and ETC.

legendary
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https://bpip.org
id like to know how that is going now


https://bitflikz.com/blogs/news/the-theft-of-a-1-billion-dollar-blockchain-community-legal-action-begins
 July 26, 2016
The Theft of a $1 Billion Dollar Blockchain -Ethereum/Slock.it Facing Legal Action

We have decided to launch legal action against the Ethereum foundation and the Slock.it development team. Please join us if you feel you have been effected in any way through the actions of the Ethereum foundation or Slock.it.

We are motivated by our crypto morals, ethics and the unspoken law within our culture. We are backed by the real word legal system and the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Not only do we challenge the foundation but we demand a full public Audit of the funds and transactions related to the Ethereum Foundation and developers.

Has there been a crime here?

Most certainly.

This bitflikz guy (or gal) is just a massive troll trying to grab attention and sell some t-shirts or whatever it is they're selling.
sr. member
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Hi people. If someone wants to do a crowdsale for their project/dapp. Where can i find these crowdsales? Is there a website with an overview or do you have to have the wallet installed to see the crowdsales?

cheers!
legendary
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The essential problem is that unless you own DAO tokens, you have no reason to choose Ethereum over Ethereum Classic. They are basically the same thing with different recorded versions of history. The entire thing is open source, so if the Ethereum developers come out with new features, Ethereum classic will adopt them almost immediately (unless they’re similarly controversial). Any Ethereum developer with DAO tokens now works against himself.

It is high time every die hard forker read this really veeeeeery slow and understand it!
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
id like to know how that is going now


https://bitflikz.com/blogs/news/the-theft-of-a-1-billion-dollar-blockchain-community-legal-action-begins
 July 26, 2016
The Theft of a $1 Billion Dollar Blockchain -Ethereum/Slock.it Facing Legal Action

We have decided to launch legal action against the Ethereum foundation and the Slock.it development team. Please join us if you feel you have been effected in any way through the actions of the Ethereum foundation or Slock.it.

We are motivated by our crypto morals, ethics and the unspoken law within our culture. We are backed by the real word legal system and the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Not only do we challenge the foundation but we demand a full public Audit of the funds and transactions related to the Ethereum Foundation and developers.

Has there been a crime here?

Most certainly.
legendary
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http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/07/26/case-ethereum-classic/

The Case for Ethereum Classic


The Ethereum hard fork to bail out the DAO Project was successful, but not without its consequences. Many assumed the old chain would simply die, however it has not only survived, but continues to grow under the name Ethereum Classic (ETC). This has forced cryptocurrency investors to make a choice on the immutability issue... here's why ETH fans should give ETC a chance.
Ethereum Classic Poloniex   

I am actually a huge fan of Vitalik Buterin’s. As a writer, when people ask me who I like to read and learn from, Vitalik’s one of the first name’s I mention. He helped shape my thoughts on the beauty of immutable ledgers.

That is why I was so upset when the DAO Project imploded. Because as intelligent as he and his fellow developers are, they are human beings, which makes them subject to normal pressures and biases. $50 million is a lot of money to most people, but especially for a young, grassroots group led by an inexperienced boy genius. That much money should never have been invested in such an experimental and community-backed project this early in the cryptocurrency game.

Unfortunately, it was; a brilliant hacker/not-hacker inevitably took the bait, and there was nothing Vitalik could realistically do about it. The DAO wasn’t his project. Disgruntled investors, however, would surely turn to him, and since their ranks included significant Ethereum miners—whose support the network needs—the hard fork was really a foregone conclusion.

It’s due to those extenuating circumstances that I still like the Ethereum team, and am sympathetic to their situation. Everyone makes mistakes. For better or worse, however, the cryptocurrency market operates on the principles of rational self interest, with game theory being a popular area of study, so mistakes have to have consequences. Otherwise, they will happen again.
Why It’s Necessary

Ethereum’s leadership cannot simply promise not to fork again because it will be outside of their control. The precedent here is that they will cave in the face of sufficient pressure, and they cannot prevent investors from making massive mistakes again in the future. The pitchforks will come out again, and if we’re not careful, it will start to be for gradually smaller and smaller grievances.

These consequences, therefore, are intended for the market—the developers are bystanders. In fact, everyone who owned ETH received an equal amount of ETC, so to the extent your ETH’s value was drained, you were compensated proportionally. The only people who really suffer directly from this are DAO token holders and developers, and to the extent that those two groups overlap, I do apologize.

But we still have to do this. Blockchains are not a democracy, where the majority can enforce its will. When a sufficient disagreement arises, the need for consensus requires us to go our separate ways. Our purchased coins contribute to the market cap and value of ETH, and we do not consent to the way it has been used. The value of ETH can only suffer in proportion to how much the market disagrees with the fork, which is entirely fair. Nobody is entitled to other people’s support.

DAO supporters hoped to ignore these criticisms, rendering them irrelevant for practical purposes. Now that Ethereum Classic is tradable on Poloniex, however, ETC cannot be laughed off as a valueless clone. In response, they have turned to attacking Classic’s merits, both figuratively and literally. While a couple of their arguments have some merit, ETC actually has a relatively decent shot at taking off and achieving massive returns for its investors.
A Good Investment?

Let me preface this by saying that this is not a low-risk investment. I did buy some ETC, but they amount to a small fraction of my cryptocurrency portfolio, which wasn’t that large to begin with. Please be cautious.

The biggest threat to Ethereum Classic is its relatively small P2P network and weaker encryption strength (hash power). In fact, one notable miner threatened to execute a 51% attack, but he later relented. That’s because while many cryptocurrencies on the market are weak enough to attack, doing so costs time and money and attracts retaliation. Major pools will certainly not find it worth the effort.

Still, it is a concern. Since Poloniex listed ETC, however, its hash power has doubled, and it spiked further in self defense when the 51% attack threat was initially issued. He no longer has enough hash power to carry it out, and the way things are going, it will probably stay that way.

Just in the process of writing this article, ETC jumped over 50%. Chinese exchanges, major pools, and OTC whales are now getting in on the action. If the price continues to rise, the mining community will be unable to resist lending Ethereum Classic their hash power—otherwise, the difficulty will be too low in comparison to the block reward. Free money never lasts long.

The essential problem is that unless you own DAO tokens, you have no reason to choose Ethereum over Ethereum Classic. They are basically the same thing with different recorded versions of history. The entire thing is open source, so if the Ethereum developers come out with new features, Ethereum classic will adopt them almost immediately (unless they’re similarly controversial). Any Ethereum developer with DAO tokens now works against himself.
Conclusion

Once you realize that ETH and ETC are equally functional, it becomes apparent that the network effect is all that stops the latter from gaining ground. Since neither has a competitive advantage, the market will choose ideologically.

The only way for Vitalik to nip this movement in the bud is to convince everyone that there is no way a hard fork like this will ever happen again. I would like to see that happen; I would like to see it happen for every blockchain, in fact. But the cold, ironic truth is that Ethereum Classic is the only way to do that. If and when ETC goes away, it will be because Ethereum has become pure once again.
legendary
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Eth taking a big dump

Price goes up and down and up all the time for every crypto-currency.
legendary
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Eth taking a big dump
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