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legendary
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#Free market


So to sum up.


ETHPOOL is the only pool not doing the fork.

dwarfpool   
f2pool
bw   
ethermine   
ethpool   
coinotron   
nanopool   
bitclubpool   
coinmine   
miningpoolhub   
Alpereum  and ethc epool  will fork.


http://ethpool.org/

Ethereum Hardfork Announcement: According to the voting result (65% in favor of not supporting the fork) the pool is supposed not to support the fork. But as all other major pools (e.g. dwarfpool, ethermine, nanopool) are supporting the fork we can and will not jeopardize any mining income of the pool by mining on a chain that has a very high probability to get orphaned. Therefore, according to our voting policy stated in the announcement, we will support the hard fork. More information on the upcoming fork can be found on the Ethereum blog. As a pool miner you do not need to take any action on your side because of the fork.

The same message on http://ethermine.org 
The majority of miners don't want the HF but they will support the hard-fork, no matter what...
sr. member
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So to sum up.


ETHPOOL is the only pool not doing the fork.

dwarfpool   
f2pool
bw   
ethermine   
ethpool   
coinotron   
nanopool   
bitclubpool   
coinmine   
miningpoolhub   
Alpereum  and ethc epool  will fork.


http://ethpool.org/

Ethereum Hardfork Announcement: According to the voting result (65% in favor of not supporting the fork) the pool is supposed not to support the fork. But as all other major pools (e.g. dwarfpool, ethermine, nanopool) are supporting the fork we can and will not jeopardize any mining income of the pool by mining on a chain that has a very high probability to get orphaned. Therefore, according to our voting policy stated in the announcement, we will support the hard fork. More information on the upcoming fork can be found on the Ethereum blog. As a pool miner you do not need to take any action on your side because of the fork.
hero member
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So to sum up.


ETHPOOL is the only pool not doing the fork.

dwarfpool   
f2pool
bw   
ethermine   
ethpool   
coinotron   
nanopool   
bitclubpool   
coinmine   
miningpoolhub   
Alpereum  and ethc epool  will fork.
hero member
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so, there will be hard fork? what is those 60% of miners dat are against stop mining? like eth rekt...
Where are you getting 60% from? Most of the miners that bothered voting was for the fork.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4tffta/hard_fork_voting_and_node_adoption_results/

These are some of the latest stats.
sr. member
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so, there will be hard fork? what is those 60% of miners dat are against stop mining? like eth rekt...
hero member
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Scavenger of Crypto Sorrow
https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/755242349320663049
Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Bitcoin is about a year into a scaling debate, without any reasonable solution shipped. Will be a big moment to watch how the two compare.
2 retweets 10 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Big if though....they haven't done it yet. I'd give them an 80% chance of success I think.
2 retweets 7 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
If ethereum pulls off this hard fork, very positive signal for them as a team. Shows they can listen to community, execute in time of crisis



This guy is just pretending that everything is fine with the hard fork. How can he be fine with tweaking and tinkering with the transaction history? Is Brian Armstrong a big investor in the DAO?

This dude supported BitcoinXT and Bitcoin Classic. Both intended to hard fork Bitcoin for a block size increase and both failed to get a major community support. Those big Chinese miners figured out they will earn more fees on small blocks than on large ones.

https://medium.com/@barmstrong/i-ll-bet-you-5-000-that-bitcoin-s-first-hard-fork-works-out-just-fine-a380abbe97b3
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I do not receive any balance on ethermine.org after the annoucement. Am I the only one?

For me the situation is the same! I suppose prepare for HF!
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I do not receive any balance on ethermine.org after the annoucement. Am I the only one?
legendary
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https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/755242349320663049
Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Bitcoin is about a year into a scaling debate, without any reasonable solution shipped. Will be a big moment to watch how the two compare.
2 retweets 10 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Big if though....they haven't done it yet. I'd give them an 80% chance of success I think.
2 retweets 7 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
If ethereum pulls off this hard fork, very positive signal for them as a team. Shows they can listen to community, execute in time of crisis



This guy is just pretending that everything is fine with the hard fork. How can he be fine with tweaking and tinkering with the transaction history? Is Brian Armstrong a big investor in the DAO?
Sounds like he is very big and very scared investor.
legendary
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Ahh nothing like beating a dead horse.  Buy some mining hw if you disagree with the fork. And let's see who comes out on top.  Then you will have your trial by jury(consensus) as to whether it was theft or not.  But this argument is just dead in the water.  Like with any banking system if you find an exploit and decide to pull 60$M out and think it's ok because of a loophole your grossly naive.  Those in favor of the theft need a recalibration of your moral compass!

Best regards
D57heinz

the pity about this is thaat you think you have a moral compass becouse the masses agree with you.
but there was no investigation and be honest are you so deep into the ether code that you can tell what was wrong and right ? so do we have a independent investigation? a report ? of what has happened ? or just a wishi washi reporting on social media mostly driven by the ones to loos the most ? and the retoric gosh are you realy so blind ?
if that person is guilty then it shall be punished but not punish it befor a trail or a investigation
thats called lynchjustic

but if thats your moral well .........


Well I take it your in the camp of possession is 9/10 the law?  It's obvious looking at the code and how it operated that this wasn't a usual run of the mill contract that drained the dao.  There was ill intent by the person who did this.  We can agree to disagree.  As far as trial by jury well id say most that have a clue what's going on are the ones that voted already.  Imagine trying to get some judge or jury to get up to speed lmao. Decentralized vote is the future.  What's right and wrong throughout history has always been dictated by the masses am I wrong?  Also I feel it should have never gotten over 100k at most for the first contract.  Live and learn.  

Edit. I have only 20 eth(2k) in dao. I didn't invest more than I can afford to lose.  Those that did I understand could use a hard lesson in investment strategy.  I went in real deep on a cloud mining site in 2014. Ended up being a ponzi. Needless to say I learned my lesson. So I can see both sides of this argument

Best regards
D57heinz
i think we are not to far apart . i see it like you that voting and consensus will replace some courts but to do it right the blockcain needs something like a report/investigation otherwise its lynchjustic . and i disagreee not the masses did lead what is right or wrong . it was always as small elite that did and does that. lobbying and so on.

and yes the act of draining was wrong ethicaly but that person misused a lausy formed not smart contract.

the waterloo desaster comes to mind. rothshild spread the romor napoleon won and sold then everyone followed and he did buy back with strohmen. well ethicaly it was not right but it was not illegal. and he got away with it.
same situation is here with the attacker.
i guess the hf will happen. hopefully they are very careful with the code and it gets smooth
but what comes next? what if a big company wants a roll back ? a goverment?

for such rollbacks there should be a realy strong set of ethical rules for the comunity

becouse this hf is rather wild west manner then seriouse thought through decition
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Anyone experiencing problems with Mist wallet 0.7.5 or 0.8.1 crashing on launch?  As reported here: https://github.com/ethereum/mist/issues/983
legendary
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#Free market
https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/755242349320663049
Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Bitcoin is about a year into a scaling debate, without any reasonable solution shipped. Will be a big moment to watch how the two compare.
2 retweets 10 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Big if though....they haven't done it yet. I'd give them an 80% chance of success I think.
2 retweets 7 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
If ethereum pulls off this hard fork, very positive signal for them as a team. Shows they can listen to community, execute in time of crisis

ethereum is old news now, and with the scandals that it had in the past it is hard for people to trust it anymore, it is a lot of money that's no joke.

so it is time for new coins to start growing and replace ethereum and take the market from it.


After the hard fork, people will trust it more. This is the first time the voting of the community to take back stolen money.

 Roll Eyes
"guess it's time to merge this pull request https://github.com/ethereum/ethereum-org/pull/264/files"



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https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/755242349320663049
Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Bitcoin is about a year into a scaling debate, without any reasonable solution shipped. Will be a big moment to watch how the two compare.
2 retweets 10 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Big if though....they haven't done it yet. I'd give them an 80% chance of success I think.
2 retweets 7 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
If ethereum pulls off this hard fork, very positive signal for them as a team. Shows they can listen to community, execute in time of crisis



This guy is just pretending that everything is fine with the hard fork. How can he be fine with tweaking and tinkering with the transaction history? Is Brian Armstrong a big investor in the DAO?

I do not have any interest in the DAO. But I still think getting stolen funds back from hacker is the right thing to do.
legendary
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https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/755242349320663049
Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Bitcoin is about a year into a scaling debate, without any reasonable solution shipped. Will be a big moment to watch how the two compare.
2 retweets 10 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Big if though....they haven't done it yet. I'd give them an 80% chance of success I think.
2 retweets 7 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
If ethereum pulls off this hard fork, very positive signal for them as a team. Shows they can listen to community, execute in time of crisis



This guy is just pretending that everything is fine with the hard fork. How can he be fine with tweaking and tinkering with the transaction history? Is Brian Armstrong a big investor in the DAO?
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ooo did i mention the HF loyalty pump............ Wink

for me it seems you didn't
legendary
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https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/755242349320663049
Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Bitcoin is about a year into a scaling debate, without any reasonable solution shipped. Will be a big moment to watch how the two compare.
2 retweets 10 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
Big if though....they haven't done it yet. I'd give them an 80% chance of success I think.
2 retweets 7 likes

Brian Armstrong ‏@brian_armstrong 1h1 hour ago
If ethereum pulls off this hard fork, very positive signal for them as a team. Shows they can listen to community, execute in time of crisis

legendary
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ooo did i mention the HF loyalty pump............ Wink
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the PalmBeachLetter announces HF set up fot wednesday...citation:

The Ethereum community has elected to do a hard fork to resolve the DAO hack. The hard fork is scheduled for Wednesday and will occur on block 1920000 (where the hack took place).
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
 What's right and wrong throughout history has always been dictated by the masses am I wrong?  
Best regards
D57heinz
wrong
legendary
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Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
Ahh nothing like beating a dead horse.  Buy some mining hw if you disagree with the fork. And let's see who comes out on top.  Then you will have your trial by jury(consensus) as to whether it was theft or not.  But this argument is just dead in the water.  Like with any banking system if you find an exploit and decide to pull 60$M out and think it's ok because of a loophole your grossly naive.  Those in favor of the theft need a recalibration of your moral compass!

Best regards
D57heinz

the pity about this is thaat you think you have a moral compass becouse the masses agree with you.
but there was no investigation and be honest are you so deep into the ether code that you can tell what was wrong and right ? so do we have a independent investigation? a report ? of what has happened ? or just a wishi washi reporting on social media mostly driven by the ones to loos the most ? and the retoric gosh are you realy so blind ?
if that person is guilty then it shall be punished but not punish it befor a trail or a investigation
thats called lynchjustic

but if thats your moral well .........


Well I take it your in the camp of possession is 9/10 the law?  It's obvious looking at the code and how it operated that this wasn't a usual run of the mill contract that drained the dao.  There was ill intent by the person who did this.  We can agree to disagree.  As far as trial by jury well id say most that have a clue what's going on are the ones that voted already.  Imagine trying to get some judge or jury to get up to speed lmao. Decentralized vote is the future.  What's right and wrong throughout history has always been dictated by the masses am I wrong?  Also I feel it should have never gotten over 100k at most for the first contract.  Live and learn.  

Edit. I have only 20 eth(2k) in dao. I didn't invest more than I can afford to lose.  Those that did I understand could use a hard lesson in investment strategy.  I went in real deep on a cloud mining site in 2014. Ended up being a ponzi. Needless to say I learned my lesson. So I can see both sides of this argument

Best regards
D57heinz
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