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legendary
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ive been buying ETH & DAO past few hours Smiley

I dont think there will be a big dump if fork goes smoothly as most DAO sellers that wanted out, have already done so, this week DAO/ETH ratio has been almost 96%+
Also those that have waited for full refund are long term ETHeads and have full faith in the ETH team.

If there is a dump, the buy support is massive and the rebound back to current price, then higher will happen within hours as demand outstrips supply.
I have BTC waiting for ya dumpers,lol and so does everyone reading this ,lol
( i know alot of whales wanting in cheap and know this is their last chance to get noobs to dump )

Now heres the good news after fork... Grin
Coinbase within next 3weeks (pump)
Devcon2 in around 8weeks, biggest crypto event of all time  Smiley, worldwide media attention (pump)
Metropolis update within next few months (pump)
All three of these events is guaranteed to bring in new users and fresh $$

Im convinced Okcoin, Houbi and maybe Btchina add ETH around Devcon2, maybe even at the event ( $50+ ETH )
Bitstamp ( already linked with ETH through Pantera ) will add ETH. Circle likely too add ETH aswell (the ceo of circle is a speaker at Devcon2)

More dapps, Plutus will change how we spend our crypto, Augur and many more exciting projects will be added to trade on ETH markets.

Many major new developments on IOT and VR/AR using ETH, as we head into a new world come 2017

Realistic price imho by JAN 2017, we should be around $80-$100+ per ETH  Kiss


sr. member
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Hi all. I am trying to set up Ethereum Wallet 0.8.0 (Win64) and geth 1.4.9 so they point to a different directory than the default ones for the chain data and settings on startup. I already know about the --datadir flag for geth but am wondering if it's possible to use a config file so I don't have to type it out every time or is a batch file my only option? Same thing for Ethereum Wallet except in addition to the chain data/keystore folders I also want to point to a different folder other than C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mist for the settings, and also disable the 'download newest version' window on startup.

Basically I want to be able to have both forked, and non-forked versions of the wallet and geth on the same windows machine without deleting the chaindata folder or typing out long command line paramaters every time I want to start it up. Is there a good guide for this somewhere?

Thanks.
legendary
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2009 Alea iacta est
.....something informative


Towards better Ethereum voting protocols


https://blog.colony.io/towards-better-ethereum-voting-protocols-7e54cb5a0119#.1ykkkzo9s
legendary
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So we need some kind of law enforcers to investigate the "theft". Will somebody report to their local police?

lol right you got the dilemma lol
but nontheless
to take it back is not better in a moral point of view then taking it
lol
sr. member
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So we need some kind of law enforcers to investigate the "theft". Will somebody report to their local police?
legendary
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I do not care about what other people think. If there is a theft, I will support to get the money back from thief.

gosh ....
again the clue here is the little word if..... if means we dont know we asume!!!!! we need a investigation to find out who is responsible for the loseing of the money
and the informations we get on social media is mostly send by people invested or insiders
thats no independent information

its such a pity
legendary
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Ahh nothing like beating a dead horse.  Buy some mining hw if you disagree with the fork. And let's see who comes out on top.  Then you will have your trial by jury(consensus) as to whether it was theft or not.  But this argument is just dead in the water.  Like with any banking system if you find an exploit and decide to pull 60$M out and think it's ok because of a loophole your grossly naive.  Those in favor of the theft need a recalibration of your moral compass!

Best regards
D57heinz
Ah, I see. The masses feel they are exploited. They vote to confiscate 60$M because they are convinced 60$M is too much wealth for a single person. It is not honest some people to be so poor while other be so rich. Nothing new under the sun. "Expropriation of the Expropriators!" or "Loot the Looters!"

Eth is not a cryptocoin. Eth is a cleptocoin.
full member
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I do not care about what other people think. If there is a theft, I will support to get the money back from thief.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Ahh nothing like beating a dead horse.  Buy some mining hw if you disagree with the fork. And let's see who comes out on top.  Then you will have your trial by jury(consensus) as to whether it was theft or not.  But this argument is just dead in the water.  Like with any banking system if you find an exploit and decide to pull 60$M out and think it's ok because of a loophole your grossly naive.  Those in favor of the theft need a recalibration of your moral compass!

Best regards
D57heinz

the pity about this is thaat you think you have a moral compass becouse the masses agree with you.
but there was no investigation and be honest are you so deep into the ether code that you can tell what was wrong and right ? so do we have a independent investigation? a report ? of what has happened ? or just a wishi washi reporting on social media mostly driven by the ones to loos the most ? and the retoric gosh are you realy so blind ?
if that person is guilty then it shall be punished but not punish it befor a trail or a investigation
thats called lynchjustic

but if thats your moral well .........
legendary
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The legalities in the cryptosphere is in the gray area at best. The attacker can argue that the exploit he did was all in the rules of the DAO and there that no theft took place. And in the side of Vitalik, they should have done a better job with the security audits. How can you store 150 million dollars worth of ether in the DAO and thinking that no one will try to attack it? That is very incompetent of them.

If there is a fault in any computer code and someone uses it to enrich themselves it is theft.


That is right. For example, your house door is locked, somebody breaks into it, and claims it is legal because your lock is not strong enough.

thats not correct in the daos case the door was not locked. it was wide open and there was so to say a sign "my home is your home"
cops in my country call that a invitation
the insurance wont pay
full member
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legendary
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Ahh nothing like beating a dead horse.  Buy some mining hw if you disagree with the fork. And let's see who comes out on top.  Then you will have your trial by jury(consensus) as to whether it was theft or not.  But this argument is just dead in the water.  Like with any banking system if you find an exploit and decide to pull 60$M out and think it's ok because of a loophole your grossly naive.  Those in favor of the theft need a recalibration of your moral compass!

Best regards
D57heinz
legendary
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The legalities in the cryptosphere is in the gray area at best. The attacker can argue that the exploit he did was all in the rules of the DAO and there that no theft took place. And in the side of Vitalik, they should have done a better job with the security audits. How can you store 150 million dollars worth of ether in the DAO and thinking that no one will try to attack it? That is very incompetent of them.

If there is a fault in any computer code and someone uses it to enrich themselves it is theft.


That is right. For example, your house door is locked, somebody breaks into it, and claims it is legal because your lock is not strong enough.

But the design of the DAO made it allowable for the attacker to transfer ether. He found a loop hole in the smart contract and in doing so the "fault" is not really a fault.

As for the "door is locked" comparison, nothing was unlocked or broken. There was a loophole in the smart contract and the attacker made a transfer of ether.

If you really thought what the attacker did was wrong, what does that make the developers or the DAO?
legendary
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The legalities in the cryptosphere is in the gray area at best. The attacker can argue that the exploit he did was all in the rules of the DAO and there that no theft took place. And in the side of Vitalik, they should have done a better job with the security audits. How can you store 150 million dollars worth of ether in the DAO and thinking that no one will try to attack it? That is very incompetent of them.

If there is a fault in any computer code and someone uses it to enrich themselves it is theft.


That is right. For example, your house door is locked, somebody breaks into it, and claims it is legal because your lock is not strong enough.
No. For example, you invited someone to your house at time of their convenience. Now after this person is in your house you claim it is illegal because house door was locked but the lock was not strong enough. The person you invited claims your house door wasn't locked at all.
legendary
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The legalities in the cryptosphere is in the gray area at best. The attacker can argue that the exploit he did was all in the rules of the DAO and there that no theft took place. And in the side of Vitalik, they should have done a better job with the security audits. How can you store 150 million dollars worth of ether in the DAO and thinking that no one will try to attack it? That is very incompetent of them.

If there is a fault in any computer code and someone uses it to enrich themselves it is theft.

the question is will the "law"see it as a fault or just a code wanted like that. one would have to consider in the aftermaath of the dao relase. someone published the Bug and said it makes the dao vulnerable and none not slockit or devs of ether thought it important to fix it for weeks.
a court could now ague it was ment to be therfor the so called attack was no crime or it was not ment to be and it was a crime but are then the ones who could have prevented it guilty too to a point ? big enough to get punished too ? and then the white hat attack ? whats with that same thing but different intention. this is so complex
legendary
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LAW IS LAW - Code is not the law - THEFT IS THEFT.

That is why I stick to Bitcoin where code is the law!
sr. member
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Merit: 250
The legalities in the cryptosphere is in the gray area at best. The attacker can argue that the exploit he did was all in the rules of the DAO and there that no theft took place. And in the side of Vitalik, they should have done a better job with the security audits. How can you store 150 million dollars worth of ether in the DAO and thinking that no one will try to attack it? That is very incompetent of them.

If there is a fault in any computer code and someone uses it to enrich themselves it is theft.


That is right. For example, your house door is locked, somebody breaks into it, and claims it is legal because your lock is not strong enough.

I think the following example is better.
You invite a guest for a drink at your house and before he leaves he steals your wallet and leaves.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
The legalities in the cryptosphere is in the gray area at best. The attacker can argue that the exploit he did was all in the rules of the DAO and there that no theft took place. And in the side of Vitalik, they should have done a better job with the security audits. How can you store 150 million dollars worth of ether in the DAO and thinking that no one will try to attack it? That is very incompetent of them.

If there is a fault in any computer code and someone uses it to enrich themselves it is theft.


That is right. For example, your house door is locked, somebody breaks into it, and claims it is legal because your lock is not strong enough.
newbie
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Update for miners at Etheres;

Etheres has updated all wallets to the latest 1.4.10 successfully, mining was not effected. So come and take advantage of our 0% fees for the next 3 months!

For all that have PM'd on here, Ethereum forums and our twitter we will be opening a EU located server soon for a lower latency for miners on that side of the world. So keep an eye out!
full member
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The legalities in the cryptosphere is in the gray area at best. The attacker can argue that the exploit he did was all in the rules of the DAO and there that no theft took place. And in the side of Vitalik, they should have done a better job with the security audits. How can you store 150 million dollars worth of ether in the DAO and thinking that no one will try to attack it? That is very incompetent of them.

If there is a fault in any computer code and someone uses it to enrich themselves it is theft.
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