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legendary
Activity: 2856
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Its been a while since i wore my space suit,lol
legendary
Activity: 2856
Merit: 1075
IDEA
A new ETH ONLY EXCHANGE , allowing users to trade their $, £, Euros, for ETH, REP(Augur),SLK(Slockits coin, i made name up btw) PLT (Plutus) maybe even SMG(Samsung) UBU(Ubuntu) etc.
Lets do it  Smiley

Some people may say why?, id say as time passes do we really want to keep buying BTC and then ETH,then GAS or REP etc, we lose money in transaction fess, changing coins fees...we could eliminate the baggage, save money and time, do it direct , fiat for ETH or GAS and Dapp Tokens all from one exchange.
This gives buyers more coin and ETH more overall market value as the fiat is going directly into the ETH ecosystem.

A very good step in the right direction.
Im extremly impressed, give this a few months and hopefully Fiat gateways will be there too.  Smiley


https://etherdelta.github.io/#
EtherDelta is a decentralized trading platform for Ethereum tokens.   Smiley
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4sk5l3/where_did_this_come_from_etherdelta_and_is_it_safe/

Cant wait till we go to Metropolis  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/07/12/want-higher-returns-invest-in-bitcoin-say-arks-chris-burniske-and-coinbases-adam-white/#18b45a794491
Coinbase has already added ether to GDAX and will be making it available on its retail site Coinbase.com this month. yes ETH on COINBASE.. Shocked

BUY TIME...after a few days off and lots of thinking...im confident that any dumps that happen now , or during the refund DAO period, will be easily absorbed by the market.
ETH has access to some really deep pockets  Smiley
ETH is undervalued right now and as the price drops the buy support increases...after hardfork i bet anyone that ETH will defo see 20k+BTC buy support again...soon.

I also very sure okcoin and more will be joining us soon ( before Devcon2 ) as ETH Chinese community has grown alot recently.  Smiley
http://ethfans.org/

https://etherscan.io/charts/hashrate ... WOW  Grin

https://etherscan.io/charts/address ....WOW  Grin

Bit risky but If you miss cheap ETH , buy a bit o DAO and then change to ETH after fork at 100dao for 1eth
GD LUCK PEEPS




  Shocked wow... thanks for the head up,  i was wondering why eth price seem so stable lately. 
 Cool
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Hello Ethereum Community

ETH Shirts are for sale on www.CryptosCloset.com

Check them out.

Let me know what you think.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777
legendary
Activity: 2856
Merit: 1075
http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/07/12/want-higher-returns-invest-in-bitcoin-say-arks-chris-burniske-and-coinbases-adam-white/#18b45a794491
Coinbase has already added ether to GDAX and will be making it available on its retail site Coinbase.com this month. yes ETH on COINBASE.. Shocked

BUY TIME...after a few days off and lots of thinking...im confident that any dumps that happen now , or during the refund DAO period, will be easily absorbed by the market.
ETH has access to some really deep pockets  Smiley
ETH is undervalued right now and as the price drops the buy support increases...after hardfork i bet anyone that ETH will defo see 20k+BTC buy support again...soon.

I also very sure okcoin and more will be joining us soon ( before Devcon2 ) as ETH Chinese community has grown alot recently.  Smiley
http://ethfans.org/

https://etherscan.io/charts/hashrate ... WOW  Grin

https://etherscan.io/charts/address ....WOW  Grin

Bit risky but If you miss cheap ETH , buy a bit o DAO and then change to ETH after fork at 100dao for 1eth
GD LUCK PEEPS


hero member
Activity: 591
Merit: 501
Scavenger of Crypto Sorrow
I wonder if the hacker decided to lock most of his coins in a smart contract(s) or escrow to pay the miners and those devs willing to support the original chain. He has nothing to lose anyway. A lot of fun guaranteed at the very least Smiley
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000

Agree maybe we have to acceptt that the concept of DAO is still not feasible. I also understand the point of the DAO hacker. Using a programmed back door cannot be punished. We have also to consider that the flaw was known at least for some weeks.

I am not sure about that. If the hacker identifies himself, there could be some kind of law suit against him.
using a programed back door is absolutely  punishable in most jurisdictions. in addition his actions were contrary to the benefit of the DAO as whole and should not be allowed to stand.
as far as the shorting of eth on exchanges (where the real money was made) not sure if that's regulated in so far as things like that go...so probably not punishable.

is hf happening on 15th?

Hacking back doors to get in systems is punishable but in this case it was a backdoor in a contract. So if you consider that the contract was created liked that then how one get punished to just use the contract as initially programmed. Interesting case. But if the hack is punishable than what about the punishment of a rollback which is against the system as a hole. My head is smoking..😊

The intention of the hacker is to still the money. That is the difference. It is an punishable offence.

hmm are we so sure of that ? he/she could have taken all the ether in the doa. he/she wasnt stoped! he/she just stoped after 3.6 mill .
if he/she was just  after the money why not take all ?
i really think that "taker " didnt believe it would be posible to take them so easy and on the way he/she got scruple.

absolutely wrong, hacker intent was to steal...and most likely not by draining DAO as they knew they wouldn't be able to actually withdraw, but by causing panic and shorting ether on bitfinex.
good point but still we dont know for sure as long as there is no investigation and facts are shown to the public then a trail - judge or jury say guilty or not
but not some who might be involved in the cause of the problem
i say ether should not do selfjustic

we do know for sure there was 3miilion shorted on bitfinex just prior to DAO attack ...a huge interest by any measure. Coincidence, I think not. selfjustice is how the system is designed isn't it. Miners ultimately choose whats in their best interest....its the cornerstone of having a distributed pow blockchain. And if they choose to mead out justice in the form of a HF than so be it. Those who don't like it can rent or buy mining equipment and hash another fork.
sr. member
Activity: 441
Merit: 250

Agree maybe we have to acceptt that the concept of DAO is still not feasible. I also understand the point of the DAO hacker. Using a programmed back door cannot be punished. We have also to consider that the flaw was known at least for some weeks.

I am not sure about that. If the hacker identifies himself, there could be some kind of law suit against him.
using a programed back door is absolutely  punishable in most jurisdictions. in addition his actions were contrary to the benefit of the DAO as whole and should not be allowed to stand.
as far as the shorting of eth on exchanges (where the real money was made) not sure if that's regulated in so far as things like that go...so probably not punishable.

is hf happening on 15th?

Hacking back doors to get in systems is punishable but in this case it was a backdoor in a contract. So if you consider that the contract was created liked that then how one get punished to just use the contract as initially programmed. Interesting case. But if the hack is punishable than what about the punishment of a rollback which is against the system as a hole. My head is smoking..😊

The intention of the hacker is to still the money. That is the difference. It is an punishable offence.

hmm are we so sure of that ? he/she could have taken all the ether in the doa. he/she wasnt stoped! he/she just stoped after 3.6 mill .
if he/she was just  after the money why not take all ?
i really think that "taker " didnt believe it would be posible to take them so easy and on the way he/she got scruple.

absolutely wrong, hacker intent was to steal...and most likely not by draining DAO as they knew they wouldn't be able to actually withdraw, but by causing panic and shorting ether on bitfinex.

That could be the reason the hacker did not identify himself. Otherwise he will sent to prison for stealing $60 m.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1021
2009 Alea iacta est
worth read


On Ponzi’s, Equity Derivatives, and Ethereum


http://www.wallstreettechnologist.com/2016/07/12/on-ponzis-equity-derivatives-and-ethereum/


............Ethereum was a project funded with 18m USD of value mostly in BTC. After writing a whitepaper and creating a proof of concept prototype, they hired developers to write it. Most of them were loaned money and worked for free but were promised exorbitant 20% bonuses after the crowd-sale.  They made a windfall after selling ETH before the blockchain was even in operation in what is called an initial coin offering or ICO to the public. Once the money was raised they patted themselves on the back, and all the developers who were promised pay in stock options (ETH) simultaneously breathed a sigh of relief and cheered.....................







legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000

Agree maybe we have to acceptt that the concept of DAO is still not feasible. I also understand the point of the DAO hacker. Using a programmed back door cannot be punished. We have also to consider that the flaw was known at least for some weeks.

I am not sure about that. If the hacker identifies himself, there could be some kind of law suit against him.
using a programed back door is absolutely  punishable in most jurisdictions. in addition his actions were contrary to the benefit of the DAO as whole and should not be allowed to stand.
as far as the shorting of eth on exchanges (where the real money was made) not sure if that's regulated in so far as things like that go...so probably not punishable.

is hf happening on 15th?

Hacking back doors to get in systems is punishable but in this case it was a backdoor in a contract. So if you consider that the contract was created liked that then how one get punished to just use the contract as initially programmed. Interesting case. But if the hack is punishable than what about the punishment of a rollback which is against the system as a hole. My head is smoking..😊

The intention of the hacker is to still the money. That is the difference. It is an punishable offence.

hmm are we so sure of that ? he/she could have taken all the ether in the doa. he/she wasnt stoped! he/she just stoped after 3.6 mill .
if he/she was just  after the money why not take all ?
i really think that "taker " didnt believe it would be posible to take them so easy and on the way he/she got scruple.

absolutely wrong, hacker intent was to steal...and most likely not by draining DAO as they knew they wouldn't be able to actually withdraw, but by causing panic and shorting ether on bitfinex.
good point but still we dont know for sure as long as there is no investigation and facts are shown to the public then a trail - judge or jury say guilty or not
but not some who might be involved in the cause of the problem
i say ether should not do selfjustic
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000

Agree maybe we have to acceptt that the concept of DAO is still not feasible. I also understand the point of the DAO hacker. Using a programmed back door cannot be punished. We have also to consider that the flaw was known at least for some weeks.

I am not sure about that. If the hacker identifies himself, there could be some kind of law suit against him.
using a programed back door is absolutely  punishable in most jurisdictions. in addition his actions were contrary to the benefit of the DAO as whole and should not be allowed to stand.
as far as the shorting of eth on exchanges (where the real money was made) not sure if that's regulated in so far as things like that go...so probably not punishable.

is hf happening on 15th?

Hacking back doors to get in systems is punishable but in this case it was a backdoor in a contract. So if you consider that the contract was created liked that then how one get punished to just use the contract as initially programmed. Interesting case. But if the hack is punishable than what about the punishment of a rollback which is against the system as a hole. My head is smoking..😊

The intention of the hacker is to still the money. That is the difference. It is an punishable offence.

hmm are we so sure of that ? he/she could have taken all the ether in the doa. he/she wasnt stoped! he/she just stoped after 3.6 mill .
if he/she was just  after the money why not take all ?
i really think that "taker " didnt believe it would be posible to take them so easy and on the way he/she got scruple.

absolutely wrong, hacker intent was to steal...and most likely not by draining DAO as they knew they wouldn't be able to actually withdraw, but by causing panic and shorting ether on bitfinex.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
Only a couple of days left as first date for hard fork to be implemented.
Can it be done in time?
Anyone know what is happening?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4sld7y/when_is_the_ethereum_hard_fork_supposed_to_happen/

here they say no
and next date is 21.7.
full member
Activity: 236
Merit: 100
Only a couple of days left as first date for hard fork to be implemented.
Can it be done in time?
Anyone know what is happening?
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 507

Agree maybe we have to acceptt that the concept of DAO is still not feasible. I also understand the point of the DAO hacker. Using a programmed back door cannot be punished. We have also to consider that the flaw was known at least for some weeks.

I am not sure about that. If the hacker identifies himself, there could be some kind of law suit against him.
using a programed back door is absolutely  punishable in most jurisdictions. in addition his actions were contrary to the benefit of the DAO as whole and should not be allowed to stand.
as far as the shorting of eth on exchanges (where the real money was made) not sure if that's regulated in so far as things like that go...so probably not punishable.

is hf happening on 15th?

Hacking back doors to get in systems is punishable but in this case it was a backdoor in a contract. So if you consider that the contract was created liked that then how one get punished to just use the contract as initially programmed. Interesting case. But if the hack is punishable than what about the punishment of a rollback which is against the system as a hole. My head is smoking..😊
just because it was a contract doesn't mean it cant be undone....either by hf or courts of law. bad contracts are nullified all the time. as far as hf....while not perfect   its a failsafe ...its exactly how the system is designed. If a majority of miners support than its consensus. anyone is free to mine either by renting or purchasing hardware.  

If HF will be introduced then (in the future) the devs can be easily forced (by gov guys for instance) to do it again for other "important" reason. The precedent will be a
constant threat to ETH.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000

Agree maybe we have to acceptt that the concept of DAO is still not feasible. I also understand the point of the DAO hacker. Using a programmed back door cannot be punished. We have also to consider that the flaw was known at least for some weeks.

I am not sure about that. If the hacker identifies himself, there could be some kind of law suit against him.
using a programed back door is absolutely  punishable in most jurisdictions. in addition his actions were contrary to the benefit of the DAO as whole and should not be allowed to stand.
as far as the shorting of eth on exchanges (where the real money was made) not sure if that's regulated in so far as things like that go...so probably not punishable.

is hf happening on 15th?

Hacking back doors to get in systems is punishable but in this case it was a backdoor in a contract. So if you consider that the contract was created liked that then how one get punished to just use the contract as initially programmed. Interesting case. But if the hack is punishable than what about the punishment of a rollback which is against the system as a hole. My head is smoking..😊

The intention of the hacker is to still the money. That is the difference. It is an punishable offence.

hmm are we so sure of that ? he/she could have taken all the ether in the doa. he/she wasnt stoped! he/she just stoped after 3.6 mill .
if he/she was just  after the money why not take all ?
i really think that "taker " didnt believe it would be posible to take them so easy and on the way he/she got scruple.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
isnt tomorrow the deatline for a posible fork ?
is there any news about it ?seems its not
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4sld7y/when_is_the_ethereum_hard_fork_supposed_to_happen/





full member
Activity: 236
Merit: 100

Agree maybe we have to acceptt that the concept of DAO is still not feasible. I also understand the point of the DAO hacker. Using a programmed back door cannot be punished. We have also to consider that the flaw was known at least for some weeks.

I am not sure about that. If the hacker identifies himself, there could be some kind of law suit against him.
using a programed back door is absolutely  punishable in most jurisdictions. in addition his actions were contrary to the benefit of the DAO as whole and should not be allowed to stand.
as far as the shorting of eth on exchanges (where the real money was made) not sure if that's regulated in so far as things like that go...so probably not punishable.

is hf happening on 15th?

Hacking back doors to get in systems is punishable but in this case it was a backdoor in a contract. So if you consider that the contract was created liked that then how one get punished to just use the contract as initially programmed. Interesting case. But if the hack is punishable than what about the punishment of a rollback which is against the system as a hole. My head is smoking..😊

The intention of the hacker is to still the money. That is the difference. It is an punishable offence.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505


Who cares anyway?


Today EXP passed ETH in mining profitability.



Where can we find this information? Is there a website for this?


For instance https://www.whattomine.com/coins

Or check the pools and see what people are beeing payed at diff speeds.
Today ETH is on top again, but thats barely.


The other ethash coins are worth checking out.

EXPand, SHIFT, KRypton and SOIL.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10

Agree maybe we have to acceptt that the concept of DAO is still not feasible. I also understand the point of the DAO hacker. Using a programmed back door cannot be punished. We have also to consider that the flaw was known at least for some weeks.

I am not sure about that. If the hacker identifies himself, there could be some kind of law suit against him.
using a programed back door is absolutely  punishable in most jurisdictions. in addition his actions were contrary to the benefit of the DAO as whole and should not be allowed to stand.
as far as the shorting of eth on exchanges (where the real money was made) not sure if that's regulated in so far as things like that go...so probably not punishable.

is hf happening on 15th?

Hacking back doors to get in systems is punishable but in this case it was a backdoor in a contract. So if you consider that the contract was created liked that then how one get punished to just use the contract as initially programmed. Interesting case. But if the hack is punishable than what about the punishment of a rollback which is against the system as a hole. My head is smoking..😊
just because it was a contract doesn't mean it cant be undone....either by hf or courts of law. bad contracts are nullified all the time. as far as hf....while not perfect   its a failsafe ...its exactly how the system is designed. If a majority of miners support than its consensus. anyone is free to mine either by renting or purchasing hardware.  

Then lets see if there will be the hard fork
legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1509


Who cares anyway?


Today EXP passed ETH in mining profitability.



Where can we find this information? Is there a website for this?
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