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legendary
Activity: 1554
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Crypto since 2014
If I buy ETH off an exchange, when the fork happens or whatever I won't lose my bought ETH, right?
legendary
Activity: 1596
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Trust and integrity of the system must be maintained at all cost in crypto if it ever wants to go mainstream.


why we do not get it with government, banks and financial institutions.


belief in trust and integrity will help it go mainstream - fixed it
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1013
Trust and integrity of the system must be maintained at all cost in crypto if it ever wants to go mainstream.
hero member
Activity: 539
Merit: 500
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The soft fork has to be implemented to freeze the stolen funds. then the society can determine when/whether to implement the hard fork.

The miners are deciding at the moment. I think they will make the decision best for the community and the future.

They will vote according to their own narrow interests.
Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

That is right. Will you vote for the wide community interests? I hope they will make the right decision, ie lock the hacked funds.

If there is a hard fork it should distribute the stolen funds to the miners. They are the ones that took the biggest hit for others incompetence and poor decisions.

if hard fork happen i quit cryptro and sell all eth.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1061
Smile

Code:
Insider trading is the trading of a public company's stock or other securities (such as bonds or stock options) by individuals with access to nonpublic information about the company. In various countries, some kinds of trading based on insider information is illegal. This is because it is seen as unfair to other investors who do not have access to the information, as the investor with insider information could potentially make far larger profits that a typical investor could not make.

What stock are we trading, I am confused.

Are we trading cryptocurrency or stocks.

If we are trading cryptocurrency the only laws that apply are those that have been introduced recently regarding crypto.

is this right?




"A security is a tradable financial asset. "

So, yes, Any judge would rule that ETH is a security of the Ethereum Foundation, as with Slock.it and the DAO.

You can't fuck around will billions of dollars of peoples money and expect people not to notice.


The banks have been waiting for a good excuse to shit all over crypto, and now we just handed it to them on a silver platter.

I always knew greed would kill crypto, no one gave a shit about making crypto adoptable, all they care about is the fiat dollar value they can place on their coin, stupid


if you know how it works, profit from it

it is not a conspiracy when it is in front of your eyes

I suppose the laws for the ethereum and dao foundations are applicable to the country where they are registered

if not registered to any country, there is no illegal activity, is that right



the financial institutions know full well how valuable a blockchain is and the inherent crypto with it. They will save trillions by moving their existing legacy systems onto a blockchain.

not just that you can make 10 times as much trading crypto, increasing transaction fees and any applicable interest rates that come along with bank services and faster









legendary
Activity: 1311
Merit: 1000
The soft fork has to be implemented to freeze the stolen funds. then the society can determine when/whether to implement the hard fork.

The miners are deciding at the moment. I think they will make the decision best for the community and the future.

They will vote according to their own narrow interests.
Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

That is right. Will you vote for the wide community interests? I hope they will make the right decision, ie lock the hacked funds.

If there is a hard fork it should distribute the stolen funds to the miners. They are the ones that took the biggest hit for others incompetence and poor decisions.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000

Code:
Insider trading is the trading of a public company's stock or other securities (such as bonds or stock options) by individuals with access to nonpublic information about the company. In various countries, some kinds of trading based on insider information is illegal. This is because it is seen as unfair to other investors who do not have access to the information, as the investor with insider information could potentially make far larger profits that a typical investor could not make.

What stock are we trading, I am confused.

Are we trading cryptocurrency or stocks.

If we are trading cryptocurrency the only laws that apply are those that have been introduced recently regarding crypto.

is this right?




"A security is a tradable financial asset. "

So, yes, Any judge would rule that ETH is a security of the Ethereum Foundation, as with Slock.it and the DAO.

You can't fuck around will billions of dollars of peoples money and expect people not to notice.


The banks have been waiting for a good excuse to shit all over crypto, and now we just handed it to them on a silver platter.

I always knew greed would kill crypto, no one gave a shit about making crypto adoptable, all they care about is the fiat dollar value they can place on their coin, stupid


Drama queen much?
sr. member
Activity: 355
Merit: 250

Code:
Insider trading is the trading of a public company's stock or other securities (such as bonds or stock options) by individuals with access to nonpublic information about the company. In various countries, some kinds of trading based on insider information is illegal. This is because it is seen as unfair to other investors who do not have access to the information, as the investor with insider information could potentially make far larger profits that a typical investor could not make.

What stock are we trading, I am confused.

Are we trading cryptocurrency or stocks.

If we are trading cryptocurrency the only laws that apply are those that have been introduced recently regarding crypto.

is this right?




"A security is a tradable financial asset. "

So, yes, Any judge would rule that ETH is a security of the Ethereum Foundation, as with Slock.it and the DAO.

You can't fuck around will billions of dollars of peoples money and expect people not to notice.


The banks have been waiting for a good excuse to shit all over crypto, and now we just handed it to them on a silver platter.

I always knew greed would kill crypto, no one gave a shit about making crypto adoptable, all they care about is the fiat dollar value they can place on their coin, stupid
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1061
Smile

Code:
Insider trading is the trading of a public company's stock or other securities (such as bonds or stock options) by individuals with access to nonpublic information about the company. In various countries, some kinds of trading based on insider information is illegal. This is because it is seen as unfair to other investors who do not have access to the information, as the investor with insider information could potentially make far larger profits that a typical investor could not make.

What stock are we trading, I am confused.

Are we trading cryptocurrency or stocks.

If we are trading cryptocurrency the only laws that apply are those that have been introduced recently regarding crypto.

is this right?


hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
people talk and post that miners will decide...and yes they will most likely decide.
if people feel strongly one way or another and are not mining, they are free to rent or buy hash power, there are a myriad of choices.
no one is stopping them...then feel free to vote accordingly.
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 708
What about mining difficulty?  What are your predictions? Especially in connection with new cards?
newbie
Activity: 81
Merit: 0
The soft fork has to be implemented to freeze the stolen funds. then the society can determine when/whether to implement the hard fork.

The miners are deciding at the moment. I think they will make the decision best for the community and the future.

They will vote according to their own narrow interests.
Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

That is right. Will you vote for the wide community interests? I hope they will make the right decision, ie lock the hacked funds.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1737
"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
The soft fork has to be implemented to freeze the stolen funds. then the society can determine when/whether to implement the hard fork.

The miners are deciding at the moment. I think they will make the decision best for the community and the future.

They will vote according to their own narrow interests.
Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
sr. member
Activity: 332
Merit: 250
The soft fork has to be implemented to freeze the stolen funds. then the society can determine when/whether to implement the hard fork.

The miners are deciding at the moment. I think they will make the decision best for the community and the future.
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
The soft fork has to be implemented to freeze the stolen funds. then the society can determine when/whether to implement the hard fork.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
hmm insider trading yes wow didnt think of that yes you are right
at the moment they see themselfs as robin hood but
dont cosider legal consequences of there doing.
i look at it from a ethical and moral point of view
steeling back is still steeling.
sr. member
Activity: 355
Merit: 250
https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4pc6yh/white_hat_siphoning_has_occurred_what_now/
eze111 7 points 33 minutes ago

Hard Fork recovery:
"The timeline for such a scenario would be relatively short; 1–2 weeks to implement and test the hard fork code and then another week for the community to update their clients. So after 3 weeks the refund process for all DTHs could start and everyone would get 100% of their ETH back in a guaranteed fashion."

Targeted Soft Fork recovery:
White Hat DAOs (7,630,479 ETH) in 38 days
Dark DAO (3.64 mil ETH) in 71 days
Small Dark DAOs (Huh ETH) in 71 days
Extra Balance (344,907 ETH) in 14 days




Im not sure on the accuracy of these dates.
I have been reading alot and i think its now time to hardfork and end all this.
The hardfork will bring many updates which will make ETH much stronger than it has ever been.



is there a link that shows what the hf or sf will implement?
and do we know who will code this now ?


I believe this is the soft-fork implementation

https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/pull/2715/commits/0bab00ab697b3a37af52d5908ebe799c9fbdbb9e

They added a generic blacklist, so they can add more transactions that they deem unwanted or suspicious in the future, so at any point they could decide you contract is unwanted and block miners from processing it.

Code:
	IllegalCodeHashesFlag = cli.StringFlag{
Name:  "illegal-code-hashes",
Usage: "Comma separated list of code-hashes to ignore any interaction from",
}

but its ok, cause the called it a whitelist in code, so its no longer a blacklist, right?

Code:
	daoHash   = common.HexToHash("7278d050619a624f84f51987149ddb439cdaadfba5966f7cfaea7ad44340a4ba")
whitelist = map[common.Address]bool{
common.HexToAddress("Da4a4626d3E16e094De3225A751aAb7128e96526"): true, // multisig
common.HexToAddress("2ba9D006C1D72E67A70b5526Fc6b4b0C0fd6D334"): true, // attack contract
}

LMAO


wow thats shocking
is slockit involved in the coding ?
and why do we not ask who is the so called attacker ?


No, Slock.it are not fixing it, why when their main investors (ETH) that control the network will do it for free to save the marketcap.

I guess the Swiss have WAY different laws than other counties, cause in New Zealand this would be pretty much illegal as it would be considered insider trading.

Code:
Insider trading is the trading of a public company's stock or other securities (such as bonds or stock options) by individuals with access to nonpublic information about the company. In various countries, some kinds of trading based on insider information is illegal. This is because it is seen as unfair to other investors who do not have access to the information, as the investor with insider information could potentially make far larger profits that a typical investor could not make.


This is the reason Cryptopia had to delist it, as it could cause unwanted regulation and possible account seizure in their country.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4pc6yh/white_hat_siphoning_has_occurred_what_now/
eze111 7 points 33 minutes ago

Hard Fork recovery:
"The timeline for such a scenario would be relatively short; 1–2 weeks to implement and test the hard fork code and then another week for the community to update their clients. So after 3 weeks the refund process for all DTHs could start and everyone would get 100% of their ETH back in a guaranteed fashion."

Targeted Soft Fork recovery:
White Hat DAOs (7,630,479 ETH) in 38 days
Dark DAO (3.64 mil ETH) in 71 days
Small Dark DAOs (Huh ETH) in 71 days
Extra Balance (344,907 ETH) in 14 days




Im not sure on the accuracy of these dates.
I have been reading alot and i think its now time to hardfork and end all this.
The hardfork will bring many updates which will make ETH much stronger than it has ever been.



is there a link that shows what the hf or sf will implement?
and do we know who will code this now ?


I believe this is the soft-fork implementation

https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/pull/2715/commits/0bab00ab697b3a37af52d5908ebe799c9fbdbb9e

They added a generic blacklist, so they can add more transactions that they deem unwanted or suspicious in the future, so at any point they could decide you contract is unwanted and block miners from processing it.

Code:
	IllegalCodeHashesFlag = cli.StringFlag{
Name:  "illegal-code-hashes",
Usage: "Comma separated list of code-hashes to ignore any interaction from",
}

but its ok, cause the called it a whitelist in code, so its no longer a blacklist, right?

Code:
	daoHash   = common.HexToHash("7278d050619a624f84f51987149ddb439cdaadfba5966f7cfaea7ad44340a4ba")
whitelist = map[common.Address]bool{
common.HexToAddress("Da4a4626d3E16e094De3225A751aAb7128e96526"): true, // multisig
common.HexToAddress("2ba9D006C1D72E67A70b5526Fc6b4b0C0fd6D334"): true, // attack contract
}

LMAO


wow thats shocking
is slockit involved in the coding ?
and why do we not ask who is the so called attacker ?
sr. member
Activity: 355
Merit: 250
https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4pc6yh/white_hat_siphoning_has_occurred_what_now/
eze111 7 points 33 minutes ago

Hard Fork recovery:
"The timeline for such a scenario would be relatively short; 1–2 weeks to implement and test the hard fork code and then another week for the community to update their clients. So after 3 weeks the refund process for all DTHs could start and everyone would get 100% of their ETH back in a guaranteed fashion."

Targeted Soft Fork recovery:
White Hat DAOs (7,630,479 ETH) in 38 days
Dark DAO (3.64 mil ETH) in 71 days
Small Dark DAOs (Huh ETH) in 71 days
Extra Balance (344,907 ETH) in 14 days




Im not sure on the accuracy of these dates.
I have been reading alot and i think its now time to hardfork and end all this.
The hardfork will bring many updates which will make ETH much stronger than it has ever been.



is there a link that shows what the hf or sf will implement?
and do we know who will code this now ?


I believe this is the soft-fork implementation

https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/pull/2715/commits/0bab00ab697b3a37af52d5908ebe799c9fbdbb9e

They added a generic blacklist, so they can add more transactions that they deem unwanted or suspicious in the future, so at any point they could decide you contract is unwanted and block miners from processing it.

Code:
	IllegalCodeHashesFlag = cli.StringFlag{
Name:  "illegal-code-hashes",
Usage: "Comma separated list of code-hashes to ignore any interaction from",
}

but its ok, cause the called it a whitelist in code, so its no longer a blacklist, right?

Code:
	daoHash   = common.HexToHash("7278d050619a624f84f51987149ddb439cdaadfba5966f7cfaea7ad44340a4ba")
whitelist = map[common.Address]bool{
common.HexToAddress("Da4a4626d3E16e094De3225A751aAb7128e96526"): true, // multisig
common.HexToAddress("2ba9D006C1D72E67A70b5526Fc6b4b0C0fd6D334"): true, // attack contract
}

LMAO

legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
https://np.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4pc6yh/white_hat_siphoning_has_occurred_what_now/
eze111 7 points 33 minutes ago

Hard Fork recovery:
"The timeline for such a scenario would be relatively short; 1–2 weeks to implement and test the hard fork code and then another week for the community to update their clients. So after 3 weeks the refund process for all DTHs could start and everyone would get 100% of their ETH back in a guaranteed fashion."

Targeted Soft Fork recovery:
White Hat DAOs (7,630,479 ETH) in 38 days
Dark DAO (3.64 mil ETH) in 71 days
Small Dark DAOs (Huh ETH) in 71 days
Extra Balance (344,907 ETH) in 14 days




Im not sure on the accuracy of these dates.
I have been reading alot and i think its now time to hardfork and end all this.
The hardfork will bring many updates which will make ETH much stronger than it has ever been.



is there a link that shows what the hf or sf will implement?
and do we know who will code this now ?
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