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yes, all good, but now the white hat was attacked xD
This shit will never end until they hard fork it!
FORK IT!  FORK IT!
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yes, all good, but now the white hat was attacked xD
sr. member
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good news for Ethere and DAO today , the DAO received another attack , but this time from a curator lead white hat hackers , this attack was like a secret to avoid alerting the hackers who hold the stolen Ether , the white hat hackers posted this message :

I repeat. There was an attack on the DAO so we launched our white hat counter attack. More updates will follow

and that caused the price recovering today , especially the DAO , it has risen today about 50% , and Ether now 15$ .

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4p7mhc/update_on_the_white_hat_attack/ Smiley

That is good news. Does it mean there is no need for the hard fork? Has the hacker's funds also been stolen?
hero member
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good news for Ethere and DAO today , the DAO received another attack , but this time from a curator lead white hat hackers , this attack was like a secret to avoid alerting the hackers who hold the stolen Ether , the white hat hackers posted this message :

I repeat. There was an attack on the DAO so we launched our white hat counter attack. More updates will follow

and that caused the price recovering today , especially the DAO , it has risen today about 50% , and Ether now 15$ .
legendary
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When will be it hard forked?
Vitalik, please hard fork it.

Soft fork will be within abouit 20 days now. But there is no specific dates about the hard fork. It might not happen.

might not needed. Maybe if we soft fork the right way, we can also return the funds.
sr. member
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When will be it hard forked?
Vitalik, please hard fork it.

Soft fork will be within abouit 20 days now. But there is no specific dates about the hard fork. It might not happen.
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fork vitalin
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When will be it hard forked?
Vitalik, please hard fork it.
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Factom is to data what Ethereum is to smart contracts.  Smiley


I wish Factom anchors to ETH that would be nice. Congrats on the rebound!
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I am a miner and think a fork is in order in this particular instance.

This same exploiter person could have just as easily exploited 10 coins, then stopped and reported this bug to the devs and allowed for a quick fix.

But no, he chose the more criminal path,,, that of a common burglar,,, he should be denied every pennies worth of Ethereum he stole.

Ethereum will still be decentralized and justice will be served- through denying the burglar his bounty.

Hurry up and put the fork out there and let us miners decide. The devs cannot be held responsible if they write the code fix and put it out there for a ton of anonymous miners to decide to act on the new fork.  Wink

Ethereum is still a great concept although not perfect.

Yep,
Live and learn.
FORK IT!
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temp soft fork only =  return of all funds   Cheesy

Quote
https://twitter.com/feindura

To fully get all the money we need a temporary Soft Fork! It’s a community decision, so make it happen!
legendary
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I am a miner and think a fork is in order in this particular instance.

This same exploiter person could have just as easily exploited 10 coins, then stopped and reported this bug to the devs and allowed for a quick fix.

But no, he chose the more criminal path,,, that of a common burglar,,, he should be denied every pennies worth of Ethereum he stole.

Ethereum will still be decentralized and justice will be served- through denying the burglar his bounty.

Hurry up and put the fork out there and let us miners decide. The devs cannot be held responsible if they write the code fix and put it out there for a ton of anonymous miners to decide to act on the new fork.  Wink

Ethereum is still a great concept although not perfect.
sr. member
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Many things interesting about eth/the dao/ attack.
The Dao was the highest crowdfunding project in history, yet there was almost zero news about this in mainstream media !? They report when some ,,stupid,, gadget raises 2 million and there is almost nothing written about project that got 150 million, strange. If ETH / the Dao has marketing expert they should fire him/her immediatly.

Than we have this ,,error,, that was announced a week or so before the attack, slockit team asking 1.5 million to repair this and since no one was willing to pay they left it as it is. The attacker obviously took advantage of this. The team that has written the code that has holes should repair it free of charge! That is how normal buissines is done. You deliver something that doesnt do what it should it is your obligation to make it work, if you want to keep your reputation and good name.

With the money involved in eth and the dao all of this is unacceptable, everything is handeled on an amateur level.
And when reading why not to do a hard fork it is even more obvios that there should be more ,,training,, videos and articels done, so people could see a wider picture and get educated about how buissines is handeled. If ETH wants to keep its rise and momentum, hard fork has to be done. Why? Becouse we all know that wrong can be made wright! We can fix the theft and return all that was taken. Immagine how it will look if this is not done, you could change and repair something, have all the tools but you havent done it?? You will look like a fool if you dont do this, and this is how ETH community will look like if we will not support hard fork.
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i see some pools have started voting...I think for soft fork.
ethpool.org & ethermine.org
Is that voting moot....(only 25% have voted).
I don't see any other pools with this option to vote yet...like dwarfpool

yet it seems like soft fork definitely going to happen regardless.
legendary
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Well, the whole event is very interesting.  I am confident that some very good things will come out of this exposure....it's a good thing that these things are being discovered now because then we can better fortify the platform for future developments.  One thing I know for sure, we can't let the attacker profit off of the exploit....a lot more confidence would be lost if that happens than would be lost due to any type of remedy we impose to prevent it.
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what is actually the % of a possible hard fork after a soft fork?
i mean..we will soft fork, ok, but there will be some possibilities that people will vore really for an hard fork?



Vitalik Buterin controls Ethereum. He said soft fork.
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what is actually the % of a possible hard fork after a soft fork?
i mean..we will soft fork, ok, but there will be some possibilities that people will vote really for an hard fork?
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I love NACHOS
let me understand..Smiley
 soft fork = all eth on dao frozen and dao holders f**ked
hard fork= dao holders refunded
right?

Yes. But for the soft fork, the DAO holders can use the DAO not yet stolen. They will lose about 3.6 million coins.

Yes, with soft fork all investors lose 3.6 million eth. If the attacker doesnt decide to drain all that is left, what he can still do since nothing has been done to prevent this.
He gets nothing, investors in the DAO lose over 11 million ETH + the price drop of ETH that allready happened becouse of this attack. So the attacker will not get anything, but he made people lose over 1 billion $.

Hard fork is only way to make this right. Attacker will get 0, people will be refunded.

ETH is in such a bad position right now because no matter what they choose to do there is going to be a huge backlash from the public. I'd fucking flip a coin at this point.
legendary
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let me understand..Smiley
 soft fork = all eth on dao frozen and dao holders f**ked
hard fork= dao holders refunded
right?

Yes. But for the soft fork, the DAO holders can use the DAO not yet stolen. They will lose about 3.6 million coins.

Yes, with soft fork all investors lose 3.6 million eth. If the attacker doesnt decide to drain all that is left, what he can still do since nothing has been done to prevent this.
He gets nothing, investors in the DAO lose over 11 million ETH + the price drop of ETH that allready happened becouse of this attack. So the attacker will not get anything, but he made people lose over 1 billion $.

Hard fork is only way to make this right. Attacker will get 0, people will be refunded.

i think the attacker gain something if he/she shorted eth.  btw i still dont like hardfork, i hope we can do it with softfork and maybe counter split attack Huh
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