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Topic: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping - page 460. (Read 2115876 times)

legendary
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Guys you are doing a great job, so i see people supporting you this much. Seems that at this rate will arrive to $500,000 in a few days. Congratulations!
sr. member
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We have raised $250,000 in the first 4 days of our Software Sale! A MASSIVE THANK YOU to our supporters!

Get your Factoids now if you haven't already before the rate change in 2 days:


https://koinify.com/#/project/FACTOM
sr. member
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If you haven’t already head over to Koinify before the rate goes -100 Factoids:

https://koinify.com/#/project/FACTOM
hero member
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legendary
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We have sold over 1,600,000 Factoids in just 48 Hours.
A massive thank you to our community and supporters.

Head over to Koinify to get yours before the rate change in 5 days.

https://koinify.com/#/project/FACTOM

Huge news Factom! Well done and looking forward to more updates  Cool
sr. member
Activity: 251
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We have sold over 1,600,000 Factoids in just 48 Hours.
A massive thank you to our community and supporters.

Head over to Koinify to get yours before the rate change in 5 days.

https://koinify.com/#/project/FACTOM
sr. member
Activity: 251
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Update: 725 BTC has been raised in under 48 hours.

You can check https://twitter.com/factom_sale for a live feed of the sales!

We are thrilled with the support received so far.
A big thank you to all our supporters and contributors!
sr. member
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Update: 725 BTC has been raised in under 48 hours.

You can check https://twitter.com/factom_sale for a live feed of the sales!
full member
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I buy 10 BTC  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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Using Proof of Stake will end up with Masternode stakeholders owning a lot of beach front property.
Edit: Proof of Stake will allow large Factoid holders to vote on the conversion rate. They will make it prohibitively expensive to buy entry credits. Wealthy attackers can create counterfeit entries and cause genuine entries to be ignored by consensus. In other words, Proof of Stake is not a good consensus, especially for property. Wealthy factoid holders will collude to attack record systems of valuable real estate. This has already been done in countries that have gone to computerized real estate bookkeeping. It would be better to not avoid Bitcoin's consensus approach. Proof of Work offers stronger protection from such attacks.

This.  A thousand times this.  Attacking POS is economically more feasible than POW.
I'm not sure I completely understand your points... But want to point out that Factom is secured by Bitcoin which is PoW
Entry credits are a fixed value. Perhaps they are hedged Bitcoin contracts, but they are purchased with a floating value Factoid that uses Proof of Stake. Bitcoin hedge contracts expire and become volatile over time, so either you will have to secure with holding bitcoins or create new contracts using Factoids. FACTOM claims that you won't be using bitcoins.

They expect people to go from USD to Tether to Factoid maybe?
Likely. It would be better to use a Tether approach and transition to a Lightning Network 'hub and spoke' model.

Factoids are using a protocol to transact on Bitcoin's PoW network, but it is true that Factom will not be using 'bitcoin the currency'.

Entry credits are like IOU's in the Factom network, a fixed value against the floating value of Factoids.

Factom has its own consensus model which is explained in the whitepaper here: https://github.com/FactomProject/FactomDocs/raw/master/FactomLedgerbyConsensus.pdf



Nice, that's some good info. I was curious about Factom's 'use' of the actually currency. Thanks for clearing that up
donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
Using Proof of Stake will end up with Masternode stakeholders owning a lot of beach front property.
Edit: Proof of Stake will allow large Factoid holders to vote on the conversion rate. They will make it prohibitively expensive to buy entry credits. Wealthy attackers can create counterfeit entries and cause genuine entries to be ignored by consensus. In other words, Proof of Stake is not a good consensus, especially for property. Wealthy factoid holders will collude to attack record systems of valuable real estate. This has already been done in countries that have gone to computerized real estate bookkeeping. It would be better to not avoid Bitcoin's consensus approach. Proof of Work offers stronger protection from such attacks.

This.  A thousand times this.  Attacking POS is economically more feasible than POW.
I'm not sure I completely understand your points... But want to point out that Factom is secured by Bitcoin which is PoW
Entry credits are a fixed value. Perhaps they are hedged Bitcoin contracts, but they are purchased with a floating value Factoid that uses Proof of Stake. Bitcoin hedge contracts expire and become volatile over time, so either you will have to secure with holding bitcoins or create new contracts using Factoids. FACTOM claims that you won't be using bitcoins.


Do you have a like on this Factom thinks ppl won't be using Bitcoin idea?

They expect people to go from USD to Tether to Factoid maybe?
Likely. It would be better to use a Tether approach and transition to a Lightning Network 'hub and spoke' model.

Factoids are using a protocol to transact on Bitcoin's PoW network, but it is true that Factom will not be using 'bitcoin the currency'.

Entry credits are like IOU's in the Factom network, a fixed value against the floating value of Factoids.

Factom has its own consensus model which is explained in the whitepaper here: https://github.com/FactomProject/FactomDocs/raw/master/FactomLedgerbyConsensus.pdf


Thanks for that white paper link. It's worse than I thought. Federated and Audit servers are also able to attack. Don't get me wrong. I still like the idea. They just need to get over the 'Bitcoin currency is Bad' mentality because all they are doing is opening up the system to more attack vectors with each layer of abstraction and trust. The entry credits can migrate from IOUs to payment channels. The fundraising model will still work to get it up and running. The Federated servers can become hubs and Audit servers will become viable businesses in themselves.

Do you have a link to the idea that Factom think ppl won't be using Bitcoin?
It's not that Factom doesn't use botcoins, it's that users won't have the private keys. Factom claims that users won't need bitcoins in their video.. I presume the federated servers and FACTOM hold the bitcoin private keys.
member
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Using Proof of Stake will end up with Masternode stakeholders owning a lot of beach front property.
Edit: Proof of Stake will allow large Factoid holders to vote on the conversion rate. They will make it prohibitively expensive to buy entry credits. Wealthy attackers can create counterfeit entries and cause genuine entries to be ignored by consensus. In other words, Proof of Stake is not a good consensus, especially for property. Wealthy factoid holders will collude to attack record systems of valuable real estate. This has already been done in countries that have gone to computerized real estate bookkeeping. It would be better to not avoid Bitcoin's consensus approach. Proof of Work offers stronger protection from such attacks.

This.  A thousand times this.  Attacking POS is economically more feasible than POW.
I'm not sure I completely understand your points... But want to point out that Factom is secured by Bitcoin which is PoW
Entry credits are a fixed value. Perhaps they are hedged Bitcoin contracts, but they are purchased with a floating value Factoid that uses Proof of Stake. Bitcoin hedge contracts expire and become volatile over time, so either you will have to secure with holding bitcoins or create new contracts using Factoids. FACTOM claims that you won't be using bitcoins.


Do you have a like on this Factom thinks ppl won't be using Bitcoin idea?

They expect people to go from USD to Tether to Factoid maybe?
Likely. It would be better to use a Tether approach and transition to a Lightning Network 'hub and spoke' model.

Factoids are using a protocol to transact on Bitcoin's PoW network, but it is true that Factom will not be using 'bitcoin the currency'.

Entry credits are like IOU's in the Factom network, a fixed value against the floating value of Factoids.

Factom has its own consensus model which is explained in the whitepaper here: https://github.com/FactomProject/FactomDocs/raw/master/FactomLedgerbyConsensus.pdf


Thanks for that white paper link. It's worse than I thought. Federated and Audit servers are also able to attack. Don't get me wrong. I still like the idea. They just need to get over the 'Bitcoin currency is Bad' mentality because all they are doing is opening up the system to more attack vectors with each layer of abstraction and trust. The entry credits can migrate from IOUs to payment channels. The fundraising model will still work to get it up and running. The Federated servers can become hubs and Audit servers will become viable businesses in themselves.

Do you have a link to the idea that Factom think ppl won't be using Bitcoin?
sr. member
Activity: 364
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Sorry Im still new with factom but is there any wallet where I can stock my factoids?  Grin

Currently, your Factoids are showing in your Koinify wallet. When the Factom chain goes live and the sale is over, your Factoids will be open for sending / withdrawing.

As well, Factom has passed 333 BTC 12 hours into the sale, thank you all who have participated so far!
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1010
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
Using Proof of Stake will end up with Masternode stakeholders owning a lot of beach front property.
Edit: Proof of Stake will allow large Factoid holders to vote on the conversion rate. They will make it prohibitively expensive to buy entry credits. Wealthy attackers can create counterfeit entries and cause genuine entries to be ignored by consensus. In other words, Proof of Stake is not a good consensus, especially for property. Wealthy factoid holders will collude to attack record systems of valuable real estate. This has already been done in countries that have gone to computerized real estate bookkeeping. It would be better to not avoid Bitcoin's consensus approach. Proof of Work offers stronger protection from such attacks.

This.  A thousand times this.  Attacking POS is economically more feasible than POW.
I'm not sure I completely understand your points... But want to point out that Factom is secured by Bitcoin which is PoW
Entry credits are a fixed value. Perhaps they are hedged Bitcoin contracts, but they are purchased with a floating value Factoid that uses Proof of Stake. Bitcoin hedge contracts expire and become volatile over time, so either you will have to secure with holding bitcoins or create new contracts using Factoids. FACTOM claims that you won't be using bitcoins.

They expect people to go from USD to Tether to Factoid maybe?
Likely. It would be better to use a Tether approach and transition to a Lightning Network 'hub and spoke' model.

Factoids are using a protocol to transact on Bitcoin's PoW network, but it is true that Factom will not be using 'bitcoin the currency'.

Entry credits are like IOU's in the Factom network, a fixed value against the floating value of Factoids.

Factom has its own consensus model which is explained in the whitepaper here: https://github.com/FactomProject/FactomDocs/raw/master/FactomLedgerbyConsensus.pdf


Thanks for that white paper link. It's worse than I thought. Federated and Audit servers are also able to attack. Don't get me wrong. I still like the idea. They just need to get over the 'Bitcoin currency is Bad' mentality because all they are doing is opening up the system to more attack vectors with each layer of abstraction and trust. The entry credits can migrate from IOUs to payment channels. The fundraising model will still work to get it up and running. The Federated servers can become hubs and Audit servers will become viable businesses in themselves.
legendary
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Can we sell factoids??
full member
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Using Proof of Stake will end up with Masternode stakeholders owning a lot of beach front property.
Edit: Proof of Stake will allow large Factoid holders to vote on the conversion rate. They will make it prohibitively expensive to buy entry credits. Wealthy attackers can create counterfeit entries and cause genuine entries to be ignored by consensus. In other words, Proof of Stake is not a good consensus, especially for property. Wealthy factoid holders will collude to attack record systems of valuable real estate. This has already been done in countries that have gone to computerized real estate bookkeeping. It would be better to not avoid Bitcoin's consensus approach. Proof of Work offers stronger protection from such attacks.

This.  A thousand times this.  Attacking POS is economically more feasible than POW.
I'm not sure I completely understand your points... But want to point out that Factom is secured by Bitcoin which is PoW
Entry credits are a fixed value. Perhaps they are hedged Bitcoin contracts, but they are purchased with a floating value Factoid that uses Proof of Stake. Bitcoin hedge contracts expire and become volatile over time, so either you will have to secure with holding bitcoins or create new contracts using Factoids. FACTOM claims that you won't be using bitcoins.

They expect people to go from USD to Tether to Factoid maybe?
Likely. It would be better to use a Tether approach and transition to a Lightning Network 'hub and spoke' model.

Factoids are using a protocol to transact on Bitcoin's PoW network, but it is true that Factom will not be using 'bitcoin the currency'.

Entry credits are like IOU's in the Factom network, a fixed value against the floating value of Factoids.

Factom has its own consensus model which is explained in the whitepaper here: https://github.com/FactomProject/FactomDocs/raw/master/FactomLedgerbyConsensus.pdf

donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
Factoids are going to be exchanged for Entry Credits to use the Factom network
Entry Credits will be a fixed value
Perhaps. Nothing actually has a fixed value. Entry credits will be for bitcoin blockchain entries which will be in bitcoins. But that's not the point of attack. The attack is on the Proof of Stake Factoids used to buy those entry credits. Without entry credits you won't be able to update records.
full member
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Factoids are going to be exchanged for Entry Credits to use the Factom network
Entry Credits will be a fixed value
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1010
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
Using Proof of Stake will end up with Masternode stakeholders owning a lot of beach front property.
Edit: Proof of Stake will allow large Factoid holders to vote on the conversion rate. They will make it prohibitively expensive to buy entry credits. Wealthy attackers can create counterfeit entries and cause genuine entries to be ignored by consensus. In other words, Proof of Stake is not a good consensus, especially for property. Wealthy factoid holders will collude to attack record systems of valuable real estate. This has already been done in countries that have gone to computerized real estate bookkeeping. It would be better to not avoid Bitcoin's consensus approach. Proof of Work offers stronger protection from such attacks.

This.  A thousand times this.  Attacking POS is economically more feasible than POW.
I'm not sure I completely understand your points... But want to point out that Factom is secured by Bitcoin which is PoW
Entry credits are a fixed value. Perhaps they are hedged Bitcoin contracts, but they are purchased with a floating value Factoid that uses Proof of Stake. Bitcoin hedge contracts expire and become volatile over time, so either you will have to secure with holding bitcoins or create new contracts using Factoids. FACTOM claims that you won't be using bitcoins.

They expect people to go from USD to Tether to Factoid maybe?
Likely. It would be better to use a Tether approach and transition to a Lightning Network 'hub and spoke' model.
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1010
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
Using Proof of Stake will end up with Masternode stakeholders owning a lot of beach front property.
Edit: Proof of Stake will allow large Factoid holders to vote on the conversion rate. They will make it prohibitively expensive to buy entry credits. Wealthy attackers can create counterfeit entries and cause genuine entries to be ignored by consensus. In other words, Proof of Stake is not a good consensus, especially for property. Wealthy factoid holders will collude to attack record systems of valuable real estate. This has already been done in countries that have gone to computerized real estate bookkeeping. It would be better to not avoid Bitcoin's consensus approach. Proof of Work offers stronger protection from such attacks.

This.  A thousand times this.  Attacking POS is economically more feasible than POW.
I'm not sure I completely understand your points... But want to point out that Factom is secured by Bitcoin which is PoW
Entry credits are a fixed value. Perhaps they are hedged Bitcoin contracts, but they are purchased with a floating value Factoid that uses Proof of Stake. Bitcoin hedge contracts expire and become volatile over time, so either you will have to secure with holding bitcoins or create new contracts using Factoids. FACTOM claims that you won't be using bitcoins.
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