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Topic: [ANN] FedoraCoin (TiPS); New style, new services, same unique features - page 85. (Read 181052 times)

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my opinion? do what they did on maxcoin: hard fork and put a new cap on 250B coins, max 300B. 500B is just too much. you'll see the price rise to 20 naturally. then you can try to push it even further with the aim to stabilize it around 40-45. meanwhile you can put all your efforts in the marketing campaign.

Regarding the marketing, there were people asking about coins offering anonymity services and almost nobody mentioned TIPS. There should be more promotion of TIPS mixing service considering TIPS seems to be the only coin offering any kind of anonymity service that is out of beta. Plenty of people would probably buy for no other reason than that.
hero member
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my opinion? do what they did on maxcoin: hard fork and put a new cap on 250B coins, max 300B. 500B is just too much. you'll see the price rise to 20 naturally. then you can try to push it even further with the aim to stabilize it around 40-45. meanwhile you can put all your efforts in the marketing campaign.
legendary
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1. Everything new is up and running, how do you attract new investors if you don't have anything new coming up and there are other 10 coins much more profitable than tips? http://www.altcoinstats.com/

2. How does the price rise if the investors just buy 50 BTC worth of tips at the lowest price? you think that it will magically start to rise? if you want to have a "natural" price increase this coin has to offer something incredible, something unbelievable in order to generate a demand much bigger than the offer and we all now that this is not the case. The coin needs help.

3. With 20 BTC you can pump and maintain the price, if i had this much btc i would have done it.

The community believes in profitable coins and now this coin is not even close to profitable.

I don't trade, so I won't argue the logic, but seems correct. Pump and Dump is not the answer.

I believe that we can turn this coin around with a few easy steps, and then that should help us win new and old members.  We all want it to be profitable, but we all have to work at it.  Just a few of us working on services and other projects won't be able to do it alone.

1.  Build stores and things like that, so people can get tangible goods with Fedoracoin. (1 on the way, and another coming)
2.  Give to good causes, setup fundraisers for things.  (We need some ideas for this from the community)
3.  Market based on the above two things, and services we already provide.
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Mummy! I've got a domain name now! fargusson.eth
1. Everything new is up and running, how do you attract new investors if you don't have anything new coming up and there are other 10 coins much more profitable than tips? http://www.altcoinstats.com/

2. How does the price rise if the investors just buy 50 BTC worth of tips at the lowest price? you think that it will magically start to rise? if you want to have a "natural" price increase this coin has to offer something incredible, something unbelievable in order to generate a demand much bigger than the offer and we all now that this is not the case. The coin needs help.

3. With 20 BTC you can pump and maintain the price, if i had this much btc i would have done it.

The community believes in profitable coins and now this coin is not even close to profitable.

Again I'm forced to desagree. A part of the community, the one which pump and dump, believe in profitable coins. This part doesn't care about the coin future, it cares about money. The strongest part believe in the features and well..., the community. This part is the one we should lean on.

There was some huge work done to do the rebranding. There is much more work to do to advertise. And I'm confident there will be not just 1 people investing 50 BTC in FedoraCoin but thousands.
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1. Everything new is up and running, how do you attract new investors if you don't have anything new coming up and there are other 10 coins much more profitable than tips? http://www.altcoinstats.com/

2. How does the price rise if the investors just buy 50 BTC worth of tips at the lowest price? you think that it will magically start to rise? if you want to have a "natural" price increase this coin has to offer something incredible, something unbelievable in order to generate a demand much bigger than the offer and we all now that this is not the case. The coin needs help.

3. With 20 BTC you can pump and maintain the price, if i had this much btc i would have done it.

The community believes in profitable coins and now this coin is not even close to profitable.
sr. member
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Mummy! I've got a domain name now! fargusson.eth

I'm personally not too fond of this idea. I mean, is it not better just to attract new people and spread the news ?

The price will go up by itself.

But if you want to buy FedoraCoin, go ahead Grin I just don't think it's necessary to coordinate a pump action

If you attract new people they will simply mine it and sell it immediatly at the lowest price or wait for it to rise a little bit then dump OR they will just buy 500 Mil coins and stack them for 1-2-3 months or until someone pumps the price, the point is that the price will not go up by it's self, it needs to be pushed and keept at that value until it becomes the "default" value. By default value i mean the first value of tips that pops into your head without checking the price on cryptsy and that for me is 0.00000010 right now. It used to be 45.

Still not convinced by your method  Sad

Attracting new investors seems to be the only way to stabilize the price. If you pump, you attract multipools. And no offense to you but you don't have the money for fighting against multipools  Cheesy

And if you can show to people that this coin Worth it, which is the plan, they will not sell at the lowest price. Multipools do dummy dumps. People do panic sell.

Getting people believe in TiPS is the only sustainable option IMHO
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I'm personally not too fond of this idea. I mean, is it not better just to attract new people and spread the news ?

The price will go up by itself.

But if you want to buy FedoraCoin, go ahead Grin I just don't think it's necessary to coordinate a pump action

If you attract new people they will simply mine it and sell it immediatly at the lowest price or wait for it to rise a little bit then dump OR they will just buy 500 Mil coins and stack them for 1-2-3 months or until someone pumps the price, the point is that the price will not go up by it's self, it needs to be pushed and keept at that value until it becomes the "default" value. By default value i mean the first value of tips that pops into your head without checking the price on cryptsy and that for me is 0.00000010 right now. It used to be 45.
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sr. member
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Mummy! I've got a domain name now! fargusson.eth
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sweet!


Now if i could only get my tips out of cryptorush : (
wew im glad i changed my mind. my tips were sitting in the exact exchange for weeks, good thing i changed my mind. remember the owners can run anytime with the coins 24/7/365. also they could get in accident.
legendary
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I think that we need a trading fund to pump the price and to keep it at a certain value. Miners/investors will come when the coin will be more profitable.

Can you provide some details on how we can get started on this?  Sounds good, but I don't know how this works.

There are a few things we have to do.

Find the minium value that we want TIPS to reach in order to attract investors and miners. In my oppinion this value is around 20-22, at the current difficulty. If the difficulty increasese so should the value in order to keep the same profitability ratio. If the price reaches 20 (0.00000020 LTC) at this difficulty we would be as profitable as dogecoin.
 
After that we need the help of all the people that bought tips high or low (30-40/9-10-11) and wait for the first opportunity tu dump the coins. For ex. if you buy at 10 it's a great opportunity to dump at 20, you have 100% profit or if you buy at 40 again it's a good opportunity to dump at 20. We need to make them realise that in order to help the coin, the community and their wallet, it is best to not dump the coins at the first price rise.

If the community helps us the fund will have to be about half of the daily traded tips volume but if everyone starts dumping their coins at the first price rise then the trading fund will have to be a lot bigger.

The tactic is quite simple if you have the right ammount of LTC. In my oppinion the first step should be pumping the price until it reaches 15 and then keeping it there until we have buy orders above our buy wall. This is not a pump and dump so we need people and investors to follow the trend, the fund will be there only to mantain the minium value we need to have in order to keep our profitability ratio. After that we should pump the price until it reaches 20-22 and try to keep it here, even though it will be a bit difficult.

We need to set a new trend (ascending) and make sure it doesn't reverse. If we can do this for a few days i'm sure that we will get the attention we need in order to make this coin a "star".

If this thing really happens, the coin wil need extra marketing and maybe someone will find an athlete/a team(LOL/CS GO/any game played in international competitions)/something that has as much visibility as possible and we can offer him/her/them a donation to get the internet's/media's attention.
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I think that we need a trading fund to pump the price and to keep it at a certain value. Miners/investors will come when the coin will be more profitable.

Can you provide some details on how we can get started on this?  Sounds good, but I don't know how this works.

Or you might interested with this.... Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=447826.220
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As awesome and admirable the community's efforts are to make this coin work, I just don't see that happening anymore. And before anyone yells out "FUD!", read what I have to say please and rebut any observations and assumptions I've made if you think I'm wrong.

 I've been watching this coin since it first came out and to me, it's past the point where it can be popular. I see barely anybody jumping on the TiPS wagon now, for starters, even with this rebrand launch. Not to mention the fact it's still tied to the "atheist coin" image. I heard someone here mention that the vast majority of the world population doesn't know anything about the "tips fedora" and "atheist fedora" meme. And yes, that is true. But let's face it: where do all of these coin communities start? Internet communities like this one. The first adopters of most, if not all cryptocurrency are avid internet users, and it's those people that know about the meme. The coin's been around for almost 4 months, that is more than enough time to deter people from taking this coin seriously simply because of its name.

It's a damn shame to see this coin falling down after so much has been done to revitalize it. A lot of talented people are behind this coin. I think that the only way to revive the coin and get a lot more usage is if people went out and "evangelized", so to speak, similar to what dogecoin people have done.

I agree that we do need to start getting the word out better and recruiting new people and people that have left the community.  Maybe we can get some kind of charity involved  where we donate for a good cause.  We know there are enough bad things happening to people everyday, that we can find and help with. 

If you have any ideas we can try to get them started pretty quick.  I have noticed that the causes seem to be a good way to get attention and dogecoin doesn't have to be the only coin that does it.  We have plenty of coins, so we should try to make use of them.

I also think we need an awesome slogan to be associated with TiPS-Fedoracoin that people can use all the time and feel cool about it Cheesy, something witty and funny and catchy. I believe a great reason for the doge success is their funny much wow, very coins thing going. Maybe some of you who know the meme can invent something like that, because I still don't get the meme! Is it a tip of the hat thing? then we should start finding cool photos of people with hats and writing funny slogans beneath or something like that? the photo of the doge, with the funny smily dog and it's silly ways of talking is so catchy (similar to why silly cat photos are so loved on the internet). We need a slogan, or way of talking in sending tips, well you get the point Smiley
Any ideas?
sr. member
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Mummy! I've got a domain name now! fargusson.eth
As awesome and admirable the community's efforts are to make this coin work, I just don't see that happening anymore. And before anyone yells out "FUD!", read what I have to say please and rebut any observations and assumptions I've made if you think I'm wrong.

 I've been watching this coin since it first came out and to me, it's past the point where it can be popular. I see barely anybody jumping on the TiPS wagon now, for starters, even with this rebrand launch. Not to mention the fact it's still tied to the "atheist coin" image. I heard someone here mention that the vast majority of the world population doesn't know anything about the "tips fedora" and "atheist fedora" meme. And yes, that is true. But let's face it: where do all of these coin communities start? Internet communities like this one. The first adopters of most, if not all cryptocurrency are avid internet users, and it's those people that know about the meme. The coin's been around for almost 4 months, that is more than enough time to deter people from taking this coin seriously simply because of its name.

It's a damn shame to see this coin falling down after so much has been done to revitalize it. A lot of talented people are behind this coin. I think that the only way to revive the coin and get a lot more usage is if people went out and "evangelized", so to speak, similar to what dogecoin people have done.

I totally agree with you on the last point, we have to bring new people here to join the adventure.

That's why we launched simultaneously yesterday a french thread that you can find here.

We also created an official Twitter account, and launched a new Facebook group a few days ago.

So jump in and start evangelizing Grin

EDIT: See also WigitGetIt post above

legendary
Activity: 952
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As awesome and admirable the community's efforts are to make this coin work, I just don't see that happening anymore. And before anyone yells out "FUD!", read what I have to say please and rebut any observations and assumptions I've made if you think I'm wrong.

 I've been watching this coin since it first came out and to me, it's past the point where it can be popular. I see barely anybody jumping on the TiPS wagon now, for starters, even with this rebrand launch. Not to mention the fact it's still tied to the "atheist coin" image. I heard someone here mention that the vast majority of the world population doesn't know anything about the "tips fedora" and "atheist fedora" meme. And yes, that is true. But let's face it: where do all of these coin communities start? Internet communities like this one. The first adopters of most, if not all cryptocurrency are avid internet users, and it's those people that know about the meme. The coin's been around for almost 4 months, that is more than enough time to deter people from taking this coin seriously simply because of its name.

It's a damn shame to see this coin falling down after so much has been done to revitalize it. A lot of talented people are behind this coin. I think that the only way to revive the coin and get a lot more usage is if people went out and "evangelized", so to speak, similar to what dogecoin people have done.

I agree that we do need to start getting the word out better and recruiting new people and people that have left the community.  Maybe we can get some kind of charity involved  where we donate for a good cause.  We know there are enough bad things happening to people everyday, that we can find and help with. 

If you have any ideas we can try to get them started pretty quick.  I have noticed that the causes seem to be a good way to get attention and dogecoin doesn't have to be the only coin that does it.  We have plenty of coins, so we should try to make use of them.
legendary
Activity: 952
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I think that we need a trading fund to pump the price and to keep it at a certain value. Miners/investors will come when the coin will be more profitable.

Can you provide some details on how we can get started on this?  Sounds good, but I don't know how this works.
newbie
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As awesome and admirable the community's efforts are to make this coin work, I just don't see that happening anymore. And before anyone yells out "FUD!", read what I have to say please and rebut any observations and assumptions I've made if you think I'm wrong.

 I've been watching this coin since it first came out and to me, it's past the point where it can be popular. I see barely anybody jumping on the TiPS wagon now, for starters, even with this rebrand launch. Not to mention the fact it's still tied to the "atheist coin" image. I heard someone here mention that the vast majority of the world population doesn't know anything about the "tips fedora" and "atheist fedora" meme. And yes, that is true. But let's face it: where do all of these coin communities start? Internet communities like this one. The first adopters of most, if not all cryptocurrency are avid internet users, and it's those people that know about the meme. The coin's been around for almost 4 months, that is more than enough time to deter people from taking this coin seriously simply because of its name.

It's a damn shame to see this coin falling down after so much has been done to revitalize it. A lot of talented people are behind this coin. I think that the only way to revive the coin and get a lot more usage is if people went out and "evangelized", so to speak, similar to what dogecoin people have done.
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I think that we need a trading fund to pump the price and to keep it at a certain value. Miners/investors will come when the coin will be more profitable.

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I think that we need a trading fund to pump the price and to keep it at a certain value. Miners/investors will come when the coin will be more profitable.
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