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December 26, 2013, 04:23:32 AM
caught my attention! is there an estimate of how much hashing power these will have per unit yet?

Yes on the OP.
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December 26, 2013, 04:20:17 AM
You should go read the threads on the litecoin forum. The competitor is not really competition.
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December 26, 2013, 04:04:51 AM
Your competitor just announced their prices. It's like 8000 USD for 25 MH/s.
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December 26, 2013, 03:28:32 AM
caught my attention! is there an estimate of how much hashing power these will have per unit yet?
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December 25, 2013, 11:29:18 PM
Looks like they rally got a jump start.
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December 24, 2013, 02:39:36 PM
Q1/Q2. Then we will move them to our hosted facility after testing.
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December 24, 2013, 02:18:10 PM
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0.90$ with 10% discount if paying in LTC at 960 kh/s per chip.

I get this:
Recursion 1 = 960 KH/S = 777.60 USD in LTC/BTC/Other Crypto?
Axiom 16 = 15,360 KH/s = 12,441.60 USD in LTC/BTC/Other Crypto?
Epsilon 32 = 30,720 KH/s = 24,883.20 USD in LTC/BTC/Other Crypto?

Is that correct? Are prices likely to come down or go up?

When are these available for hosted mining at your place?
When are these available for personal use shipped to our own locations?

I primarily want them for another alt-coin.

They wont go up, either stay the same or go down. We dont want to price them out of range of the normal every day guy.
So yes that is correct give or take a small amount (I am not going to check your math but it looks good at first glance)

When production is complete we should have them hosted and mining inside of a few days. Shipping is another story, we will be waiting for competition to crop up. Once they do we will begin shipping them the same day/week/whatever. They will work other alts.

When do you expect production to be complete for hosted mining, Q1, Q2 or later?
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December 24, 2013, 09:40:58 AM
The fun is only beginning, the ASIC will only lead to many other related projects we have in the works or completed and waiting on the launch. Scrypt and crypto in general should have an excellent year.
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December 24, 2013, 09:31:04 AM
850w on 5 gpus, geez that is going to get toasted.

the exact cgminer settings are a BIG factor, so maybe he is not getting max out like 750kHs on a 7970

i have 4600khps with 1.8kw 6x HIS 280x not X² one.
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December 24, 2013, 09:22:35 AM
@jasinlee - I've been watching this thread for some.
Looking forward to buy some Fibonacci SCRYPT miners as I've not been mining SCRYPT coins for over 10 months.... eagerly waiting.

Merry Christmas to all.
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December 24, 2013, 09:16:21 AM
850w on 5 gpus, geez that is going to get toasted.

the exact cgminer settings are a BIG factor, so maybe he is not getting max out like 750kHs on a 7970
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December 24, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
850w on 5 gpus, geez that is going to get toasted.
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December 24, 2013, 08:28:06 AM
Be sure to take your sweet time getting these created/rolled out.  My GPU's are and have been killing!

Are you running the GPUs at a facility on the side or at a business that doesn't mind? Running a larger number of GPUs and not being concerned by potentially more efficient options is annoying - but big-up to you if you are doing it and not picking up the power tab! Cool
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December 23, 2013, 11:58:14 PM
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PSU 150$ for 4x 280x ? please tell me where? for 280x x4 u need atleast 1200 WATT with other parts..
No, you do not. You need 900W to 1KW for 4 undervolted 4x 280x if you KNOW PSU's. It's just that nobody really does. A basic 650W Corsair VS can handle a 7970, a 6950 and a 7870. Is this "shoehorning" recommended for the average gamer/user/miner? Of course not!
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currently running 5 gpus with 850w power supply, and it has been a few months.

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December 23, 2013, 11:05:17 PM
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PSU 150$ for 4x 280x ? please tell me where? for 280x x4 u need atleast 1200 WATT with other parts..
No, you do not. You need 900W to 1KW for 4 undervolted 4x 280x if you KNOW PSU's. It's just that nobody really does. A basic 650W Corsair VS can handle a 7970, a 6950 and a 7870. Is this "shoehorning" recommended for the average gamer/user/miner? Of course not!
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December 23, 2013, 01:46:44 PM
Be sure to take your sweet time getting these created/rolled out.  My GPU's are and have been killing!
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December 23, 2013, 12:57:42 PM
Since I didn't get an answer yet, I repeat my question:

Is it possible to point the device to different coins at the same time to split its power? This would be nice expecially for new coins / underdog coins with low hashrates.

Technically it should but we have not tried yet.
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December 23, 2013, 12:34:34 PM
Since I didn't get an answer yet, I repeat my question:

Is it possible to point the device to different coins at the same time to split its power? This would be nice expecially for new coins / underdog coins with low hashrates.
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December 23, 2013, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: Bazingalabs link=https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=2702.msg80745#msg80745 date=1387753223
A couple of questions:
1. Are your ASIC estimates scaled up estimates based on real measurements of smaller prototypes or is it purely theoretical at this point?
2. How did you get to the Altera FPGA estimates?
3. I could imagine you develop on FPGA's first to put the design into (digital) ASIC later or something, is this how your engineers went about?
4. Why Altera FPGA's as a comparison and not one of the many other brands? Have you considered significant differences (advantage/disadvantage) of implementing on other FPGA brands?
5. Since in this business time-to-market is very important, why don't you go for FPGA implementations at first? Isn't the development time for FPGA based designs much shorter?

PS: if this is not the first time one of my questions pops up I apologize in advance. I haven't read all of the thread yet...

1. Are your ASIC estimates scaled up estimates based on real measurements of smaller prototypes or is it purely theoretical at this point?

They are scaled up estimates based upon the Stratix V pictured in the OP.

2. How did you get to the Altera FPGA estimates?

Timing analysis. We also benchmarked out miner against the open source miner kramble supplied and came to the conclusion that it is faster and requires less silicone area. This is mainly because we share some operations between cores. Krambles work is in another section of this forum, it is tested, proven and well documented. I would recommend using it to other companies too.

3. I could imagine you develop on FPGA's first to put the design into (digital) ASIC later or something, is this how your engineers went about?

FPGA mining could not go below 1.5$ per khs, we completed our FPGA miner, if you do not buy en masse then that figure goes to 4$ / khs. I do not think anyone would buy that.
We considered using Artix 7, but it only supports DDR3 400MHz, this made it unusable.

4. Why Altera FPGA's as a comparison and not one of the many other brands? Have you considered significant differences (advantage/disadvantage) of implementing on other FPGA brands?

There is no difference between Artix 7 and Cyclone V FPGAs for cheap FPGA miners and Virtex 7 and Stratix V FPGAs for ASIC prototyping. And we have one of Altera's field application engineers on our team, so device choice was straightforward.

5. Since in this business time-to-market is very important, why don't you go for FPGA implementations at first? Isn't the development time for FPGA based designs much shorter?

Yes, and we have them done already. But the $/khs is not practical. Unless you are using aftermarket FPGAs or own the facilities, there is little point in producing hundreds or thousands of FPGAs no one will buy.
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December 23, 2013, 12:27:22 PM
Will we be able to pay with a mixture of BTC & LTC(no discount)?

That would work best for me...

Nope, we will be handling sales through our website which will be working on a shares type system for the checkout (too complicated to explain) but it wont do both at once.
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