Topic: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Proof Of Transaction Cash Back for Sending & Recieving - page 22. (Read 368041 times)

So, thekidcoin has finally tweeted. Time for the community to work now

Code is being scanned (0 malicious code found so far) and there's a dev to hire (bounty/salary/whatever you wanna call it attached to this).

i added a little AWS howto guide on fluttercointalk.  I documented my setting up my AWS instance and sharing it with you.  I need to compile db48 from source and it would will be complete, have not done that yet.

http://fluttercointalk.com/showthread.php?157-AWS-Linux-Compiling-101&p=858#post858

We are further investigating, and to say the least, but for the moment we feel very confortable about it. A good start for anyone would be to read the 7 pages of the QTM thread. I asked Alvin to clarify the situation - he's very active on twitter and he saw my request. I asked The cryptoedge to come in the skype group to explain it. 

For now, we dont want to start a battle, but we do beleive that there is huge possibility that all this is just FUD from QTM. Few communication, many scam accusation, empty website, no explorer, just an email adress, 80% of the supply in the devs hands, huge pump prior the "anoncement", then insta-dump, no proof at all for all what they telling, no code to review.

And from our side, anyone can review the code, join our group, use the explorer, look at the rich list, no premine, etc. Pretty transparent I would say.

That being said, since Kidcoin is not with us to defend himself and support the nice coin he created, there is not much we can do other then double check the code and the block to make sure everything is 100% ethic, and move on.

You could not imagine how I do hate criminal action. It is the bad part of the cryptos, and i realy do hope that there will be consequences for those behavior.


 

I am thinking about the QTM accusations and I can't seam to comprehend why would @thekidcoin jeopardize his work on FLT for a few lousy BTC made from hiding a block in QTM.

seen all PoS blocks from 94840 till 95358 (current block) and haven't found PoT in any of them...

Its a real bummer this coin has fallen this far. It had a lot of potential

is anyone setup to compile windows qt builds?  or a mac qt build?

ah hell yeah, i had synced up to 95010 or so, and was still 40 off of main...i used my new code and started it up, checkpoint failed!

Loading block index...
Opening LevelDB in /home/ubuntu/.fluttercoin/txleveldb
Transaction index version is 70507
Opened LevelDB successfully
ERROR: CTxDB::LoadBlockIndex() : Failed stake modifier checkpoint height=95000, modifier=0x37210c9bc00450c0
FlutterCoin: Error loading blkindex.dat
Flush(false)
DBFlush(false) ended               0ms
StopNode()
Flushed 0 addresses to peers.dat  10ms
Flush(true)
DBFlush(true) ended               0ms
FlutterCoin exited

Now it just does this over and over again though, was sure hoping it would be smart enough to know....ok, let me go back to last checkpoint and resync, nope!  Time to resync from block0

other notes...we will try to get this resolved again, stupid forks
some of you are still on wrong chain
receive version message: version 70009, blocks=95185, us=54.84.46.196:47234, them=192.99.159.64:7408, peer=192.99.159.64:7408
receive version message: version 70009, blocks=95185, us=54.84.46.196:34183, them=61.230.45.35:7408, peer=61.230.45.35:7408
receive version message: version 70009, blocks=95146, us=54.84.46.196:49011, them=98.220.203.77:7408, peer=98.220.203.77:7408
receive version message: version 70009, blocks=95146, us=54.84.46.196:33630, them=76.177.91.53:7408, peer=76.177.91.53:7408
receive version message: version 70009, blocks=92050, us=54.84.46.196:33114, them=36.84.148.43:7408, peer=36.84.148.43:7408

you know who you are, get synced!  AND YOUR MINING ON IT TOO which just makes the problem worse, ugh!

I'm testing my code, to see what happens when I end up on the 95146 chain, and it hits block 95k and checkpoint fails...see if it is smart enough to know, I am on bad chain, and try another...

oh, found this on the PoT on PoS debate...so it doesn't look like it's implemented, and all the POTv2 code is all around PoW   // I thought he finished the PoS part of PoT
    if (!blockindex->IsProofOfStake() && block.vtx[0].vout.size() > 1)
        result.push_back(Pair("extraflags", "proof-of-transaction"));
    else
        result.push_back(Pair("extraflags", "none"));


here is where it calcs the PoW PoT transaction lines in miner.cpp lines 686, 687
pblock->vtx[0].vout[0].nValue = (GetProofOfWorkReward(pindexPrev->nHeight+1, pindexPrev->GetBlockHash())*0.95);
pblock->vtx[0].vout[1].nValue = (GetProofOfWorkReward(pindexPrev->nHeight+1, pindexPrev->GetBlockHash())*0.05);

Since you asked, SilkCoin was definitely a long lasting coin that turned into a scamcoin with. 

I doubt kidcoin is one of those scam devs, most likely there is some personal issues that needs dealing with.  Devs are people too you know.

we were talking about this earlier...on a PoW block with a PoT, the flags on the block look like this on explorer for "raw block"
chaintrust": "404626a868f",
   "previousblockhash": "000000030099fbdb29c48c46e177bcfc718589865ac9612efd01f56e6173e5a0",
   "flags": "proof-of-work",
   "extraflags": "proof-of-transaction",
   "proofhash": "00000001db51107d9a9c712eb6dade73ba2f6b2cb7d36ebf717918d2507b12f5",

I expect that a PoS block with a PoT  would have proof-of-stake, and extra proof-of-transaction

5000 FLT bounty to someone who can find me a PoS with Pot so I can check something.


Note:  tablet is still dead battery but I think I figured out why my checkpoints were not working, compiling a build to checkpoint block 95000.  Hoping this will let us sync up a bit easier. 

Has anyone compiled QT and fluttercoind for windows, or a howto guide I can review on what I need on my windows box to do it.

i'm am not a coin expert do not pretend to be, I'm not a code expert, do not pretend to be.  But as someone else who has been looking at the code every day for the last week, I cannot see anything out of the ordinary.  The nicety of open source is it allows you to peer review the work.  I encourage each of you to load https://github.com/thekidcoin/fluttercoin, and click on src, and look through things, see what it's doing.

All the coins are listed on the explorer, you can examine blocks, you can examine addreses, you can see where every transaction goes. This is calculated from block 0, it's an open network, coins just don't miraculously appear.

If they did, the code would be pretty obvious and be open to exploit.  We also tend to forget that lots of this code has been forked off known code, and little changes to make them special.  PoT is one of these.  I understand PoW and PoS pretty well, but PoT is still pretty foreign to me understanding how it works.

Little more time...

interesting pot, lol

I tried all of that except yoga, I'll try that too 

It's a pity for sure - you have a very good mindset and we would like to have you in.  Maybe try to create another account ?  An old version ?  Do yoga ?  I wish I was a geek .

Do you have a cellphone ?  Maybe you could load a skype soft like im doing.  Not the best - but better then waiting outside.

It's a pity that I can't participate in the group chat.What can I do with this skype?.I tried everything, didn't work.

Still room in the Skype group !  The chat is 24h, so anyone can get in, have a chat with others, share ideas or just get in touch with those doing the job.  Some big boy just joined us - interesting discussions going on.

Just PM me. 

Furthermore, if you look at the rich list ( http://chainz.cryptoid.info/flt/#!rich ), you will notice that NONE of the top 10 balances which all hold 2M FLT or more have not decreased much at all.  I am one of those top 10 and I guarantee you I am in for the long run.

So what do you think is the more likely situation concerning this tweet?

DON'T BE SCARED.  BE INFORMED.  FUD KILLS COINS.  FAITH AND COMMUNITY PROPELS THEM.  

Selling now is lol

+1

^ This crossed my mind too.Something doesn't add up.

I'd also like to mention that to this point, the code has been reviewed several times by trusted parties and no traces of a hidden block were ever found.  We will however continue to search for any suspicious coding and will keep the fluttercoin community updated.

Chris20131111 has also put up a bounty for anyone that can find a hidden block in the fluttercoin code and I encourage all that think they are able to do so to try.  I will personally add a 1BTC bounty on top of his as well.

If you are holding fluttercoin right now, you must have believed in it before.  If you're thinking of leaving, I ask what has changed?  The FLT team will be here as well as the skype group to answer any questions or concerns that you might have.

The fluttercoin community is STRONG.  We will prevail through whatever is thrown at us.  We have great minds dedicated to working towards the success of this coin.