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legendary
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So he "researched" and found a limitation of MW known since 2016. That's $60 well wasted.

https://github.com/mimblewimble/grin/wiki/Grin-and-MimbleWimble-vs-ZCash

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While Grin transaction outputs are fully obscured, it's still possible to trace which inputs links to which outputs at least until some age. But it's unclear at this point what information could be derived from this.

Also, https://github.com/mimblewimble/docs/wiki/Grin-Privacy-Primer

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Inputs and Outputs Linking

Transaction aggregation provides benefits, and the absence of useful information in either inputs or outputs complicates analysis drastically. However, there are techniques that can exploit linking between inputs and outputs to erode privacy guarantees. Practically, they all need to rely on having participated in a transaction "close to" the ones that need to be analyzed in order to gain additional information. By sending "tainted" outputs and following as they move through multiple transactions, information can still leak as these outputs can be followed after one hop, or statistically over multiple hops.

This is an area where more improvements from the Grin team can be expected in the future, after mainnet is released.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
https://medium.com/dragonfly-research/breaking-mimblewimble-privacy-model-84bcd67bfe52

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TL;DR: Mimblewimble’s privacy is fundamentally flawed. Using only $60/week of AWS spend, I was able to uncover the exact addresses of senders and recipients for 96% Grin transactions in real time.

The problem is inherent to Mimblewimble, and I don’t believe there’s a way to fix it. This means Mimblewimble should no longer be considered a viable alternative to Zcash or Monero when it comes to privacy.

So he "researched" and found a limitation of MW known since 2016. That's $60 well wasted.

https://github.com/mimblewimble/grin/wiki/Grin-and-MimbleWimble-vs-ZCash

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While Grin transaction outputs are fully obscured, it's still possible to trace which inputs links to which outputs at least until some age. But it's unclear at this point what information could be derived from this.


legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 4392
Be a bank
https://medium.com/dragonfly-research/breaking-mimblewimble-privacy-model-84bcd67bfe52

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TL;DR: Mimblewimble’s privacy is fundamentally flawed. Using only $60/week of AWS spend, I was able to uncover the exact addresses of senders and recipients for 96% Grin transactions in real time.

The problem is inherent to Mimblewimble, and I don’t believe there’s a way to fix it. This means Mimblewimble should no longer be considered a viable alternative to Zcash or Monero when it comes to privacy.
sr. member
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Merit: 259
I'm looking for an exchange I can buy grin. I used to use polo but us based so no can do. thank you

You can see exchanges where Grin listed here:

https://next-prod.coinmarketcap.com/currencies/grin/markets/

I would reccomend you Okex, Kucoin and Bibox (exchanges which I used and have not any problem).

Also, Grin listed to DEX exchange:

https://x.vite.net/trade?symbol=GRIN-000_ETH-000
full member
Activity: 728
Merit: 169
What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger
I'm looking for an exchange I can buy grin. I used to use polo but us based so no can do. thank you

I would recommend Tradeogre, Polo and gate.io. Note that gate.io has terrible slow withdrawal speeds and requires KYC just like Polo. Tradeogre is non-KYC. & don't keep crypto/money on exchanges ever, always withdraw it to your personal wallets.

Keep Grinnin'.

Additional for this there are many good exchanges for grin to buy. Not only these listed above.

You can try this list below:

> OkEx
> Hotbit
> KuCoin

These are exchanges that I know you can buy this coin you can also buy from them without KYC but they have limit.

I can also recommend KuCoin and I'd like to add Bittrex in the list as well, that has been my main exchange since forever.
OkEx, I have not heard of it.
And Hotbit has a lot of things that worry me,
  • It was created on January 2018, when most of the new projects/investors/ICOs were made from opportunists who aimed to take advantage of new users.
  • It's China based, I don't have anything against Chinese people but since their government wouldn't give a damn about a scum which would affect people of other countries, it's a paradise for scum artists.
  • They have issued their own coin (which I'm sure it's unneeded) and their coin has followed a very suspicious pump and dump model even during the bear market. I would understand it if it had risen during the alt season, but it did not. That makes me suspicious of their methods

So, even though there is no evidence against Hotbit to make a case, I'd advise you to keep your GRIN safe and not use them since they might "get hacked" sooner or later.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1046
I'm looking for an exchange I can buy grin. I used to use polo but us based so no can do. thank you

I would recommend Tradeogre, Polo and gate.io. Note that gate.io has terrible slow withdrawal speeds and requires KYC just like Polo. Tradeogre is non-KYC. & don't keep crypto/money on exchanges ever, always withdraw it to your personal wallets.

Keep Grinnin'.

Additional for this there are many good exchanges for grin to buy. Not only these listed above.

You can try this list below:

> OkEx
> Hotbit
> KuCoin

These are exchanges that I know you can buy this coin you can also buy from them without KYC but they have limit.
full member
Activity: 728
Merit: 100
I can honestly say that there is not another project worthy of this support including the various bitcoin sidechains.
Yes, I completely agree that this donation was sent to the Green project team. They deserve it. But it would be nice if such a donate was sent to another project, they are also great.
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 1460
Today the Dev fund received 50BTC from an unspent mined block in december 2010 !




How amazing is it to see that a whale, early adopter of BTC is that fond of GRIN.


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I did some research and back in December 2010 there was only 2400 members registered on the forum.

But realistically between registering and mining a full block I believe the learn curve (at that time) would be 2 months.

So members registered before October.... Which mean when the forum only had 1700 or less members.


And if it the same donator than the previous 50 BTC  ( https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18FufdutXggR2EgBuu6xRvL15kmpaPzfTQ)

It means that a serious whale (why would someone give more than 10% of his total holding) with maybe north of 1000 btc is supporting Grin.



Wow that’s a pretty nice and hefty donation I’m with you something must be brewing. Grin is a great project so not really surprised hope to see a updated roadmap

You stop hyping, nothing is brewing. It was only a donation. However, something will begin brewing when bitcoin's rewards for miners will be very small and when they also begin relying on the fees for financial support.
donator
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Anybody want to spend some grin? I’ve got a lot of silver coins I’d be willing to offer if anyone is interested. PM me.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
I can honestly say that there is not another project worthy of this support including the various bitcoin sidechains.

Especially those "bitcoin sidechains" are the least worthy of any support to be honest.
Those are all (or at least 'mostly') projects that have tried to either damage Bitcoin, steal its rightful crown by claiming they are the real Bitcoins or just confuse people and scum them.

At least among the many shitcoins, there are altcoins like GRIN which offer something different, have a goal and pretty often are the reason a new user is joining the community.

I was speaking of sidechains, they attempt to solve bitcoins limitations such as lightning.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Sidechain
full member
Activity: 728
Merit: 169
What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger
I can honestly say that there is not another project worthy of this support including the various bitcoin sidechains.

Especially those "bitcoin sidechains" are the least worthy of any support to be honest.
Those are all (or at least 'mostly') projects that have tried to either damage Bitcoin, steal its rightful crown by claiming they are the real Bitcoins or just confuse people and scum them.

At least among the many shitcoins, there are altcoins like GRIN which offer something different, have a goal and pretty often are the reason a new user is joining the community.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
I can honestly say that there is not another project worthy of this support including the various bitcoin sidechains.
full member
Activity: 728
Merit: 169
What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger
Today the Dev fund received 50BTC from an unspent mined block in december 2010 !



How amazing is it to see that a whale, early adopter of BTC is that fond of GRIN.

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Congratulations on this awesome donation guys! I'm really happy for you since you're one of my few favorite coins Grin
I want to wish you that you put them in good use while having clear goals for the GRIN's future (so as to not waste resources).
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 501
I am a user of hydax.com. I find the news that Grin trading starts on November 13th on hydax.com. It is amazing. May I ask why you two chose each other to be partner?
full member
Activity: 728
Merit: 100
Today the Dev fund received 50BTC from an unspent mined block in december 2010 !




How amazing is it to see that a whale, early adopter of BTC is that fond of GRIN.


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I did some research and back in December 2010 there was only 2400 members registered on the forum.

But realistically between registering and mining a full block I believe the learn curve (at that time) would be 2 months.

So members registered before October.... Which mean when the forum only had 1700 or less members.


And if it the same donator than the previous 50 BTC  ( https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18FufdutXggR2EgBuu6xRvL15kmpaPzfTQ)

It means that a serious whale (why would someone give more than 10% of his total holding) with maybe north of 1000 btc is supporting Grin.


This is a very cool and unusual event. It will help the team not only financially, but will attract more attention to the coin.
hero member
Activity: 716
Merit: 500
Today the Dev fund received 50BTC from an unspent mined block in december 2010 !




How amazing is it to see that a whale, early adopter of BTC is that fond of GRIN.


TX ID :
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I did some research and back in December 2010 there was only 2400 members registered on the forum.

But realistically between registering and mining a full block I believe the learn curve (at that time) would be 2 months.

So members registered before October.... Which mean when the forum only had 1700 or less members.


And if it the same donator than the previous 50 BTC  ( https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18FufdutXggR2EgBuu6xRvL15kmpaPzfTQ)

It means that a serious whale (why would someone give more than 10% of his total holding) with maybe north of 1000 btc is supporting Grin.



Wow that’s a pretty nice and hefty donation I’m with you something must be brewing. Grin is a great project so not really surprised hope to see a updated roadmap
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1693
C.D.P.E.M
Today the Dev fund received 50BTC from an unspent mined block in december 2010 !




How amazing is it to see that a whale, early adopter of BTC is that fond of GRIN.


TX ID :
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I did some research and back in December 2010 there was only 2400 members registered on the forum.

But realistically between registering and mining a full block I believe the learn curve (at that time) would be 2 months.

So members registered before October.... Which mean when the forum only had 1700 or less members.


And if it the same donator than the previous 50 BTC  ( https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18FufdutXggR2EgBuu6xRvL15kmpaPzfTQ)

It means that a serious whale (why would someone give more than 10% of his total holding) with maybe north of 1000 btc is supporting Grin.

legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
member
Activity: 340
Merit: 29
I'm looking for an exchange I can buy grin. I used to use polo but us based so no can do. thank you
For me, the best and most convenient place to exchange and sell Grin coins is the Kucoin exchange.

thank you. I registered on Kucoin but when I went to complete KYC info, they did not have a United States option. Can I use Kucoin without completing KYC? I'm terrified to send coin without the ability to transfer value out of my account.

I'm looking for a US friendly Grincoin exchange.

Yes, I believe there's something like a 2BTC/day withdrawal limit for non-KYC users.

Details here
full member
Activity: 388
Merit: 101
Bountying for a $100T crypto economy
I'm looking for an exchange I can buy grin. I used to use polo but us based so no can do. thank you
For me, the best and most convenient place to exchange and sell Grin coins is the Kucoin exchange.

thank you. I registered on Kucoin but when I went to complete KYC info, they did not have a United States option. Can I use Kucoin without completing KYC? I'm terrified to send coin without the ability to transfer value out of my account.

I'm looking for a US friendly Grincoin exchange.
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