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Topic: [ANN] HEAT: 3.0 crypto*multisig fiat*a2a hft*1000tps*DSA*PoS+PoP*e2ee chat* - page 213. (Read 418460 times)

legendary
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Guys this is an obvious scam.

Thou things have been delayed doesn't mean there is a scam going on. Steady progress has been made as proto pointed out.

And another update on January 4th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17388681

Another on the 4th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17396060

Comparison table posted on the 5th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17408410

Another update on the 5th with a draft design:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17411030

This is evidence of a definite improvement of communication, and working with us more as investors.
I don't really understand why people are not remaining calm in the most recent history of this thread.

Also a reminder a long time ago from jl777:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15548233

"...I have no worries about making ROI with HEAT"

just contact the consumer service so they can give you more information, what you could do now. Its clear heat will not deliver anything useful. They are just bullsh**** us. Read some pages further about coin listing thing and other stuff. You will find lies and weird behavior, no one would do with you in normal life.
sr. member
Activity: 465
Merit: 250
shoutofgaia
Guys this is an obvious scam.

Thou things have been delayed doesn't mean there is a scam going on. Steady progress has been made as proto pointed out.

And another update on January 4th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17388681

Another on the 4th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17396060

Comparison table posted on the 5th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17408410

Another update on the 5th with a draft design:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17411030

This is evidence of a definite improvement of communication, and working with us more as investors.
I don't really understand why people are not remaining calm in the most recent history of this thread.

Also a reminder a long time ago from jl777:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15548233

"...I have no worries about making ROI with HEAT"
legendary
Activity: 1045
Merit: 1000
I lost my hope after watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGs2B-0goTI
I unfortunately watched it right after I invested in this crap. When I first watched it I was laughing my ass off and knew that my money was gone! It took me about 4 minutes to realize that! I mean it looks like he is completely retarded and knows it so he is laughing about himself all the time! Or is he just laughing about us who were stupid enough to invest in this crap? You can't take those guys serious, I mean this guy trashtalks other projects like bitcoin and ethereum while he thinks that heat is way better than the two and he is the genius developer when he even states that he has no clue about cryptocoins! Just let that sink in for a while! This is unbelievable! Then there is this other guy that tells us how wise he is and how he knows what he is doing and that he has a lot of experience in business and management and in the crypto space and his developer is a "genius developer", while everybody is pissed because of him and the project is so very doomed! These two clowns are not to be taken serious! They are the worst, an absolute DISGRACE for the crypto community! This whole bullshit could have been an update to the FIMK crapcoin! I could rip this video apart so hard, I mean he is complaining about how bitcoin and ethereum use a database in their client and this is slow and everything... I can not take it anymore this unbelievable retardation! If this coin is not released and open source by the end of this month I consider this project a SCAM! I want to see some code, he says they take NXT and improve it, I want to see the improvement for myself! I want to examine it!

ALSO REGARDING THE FUNDS! GUYS LISTEN TO THAT: https://youtu.be/dGs2B-0goTI?t=35m
HE SAYS: "WE HAVE AROUND THIRTEEN HUNDRED BITCOINS AT THE MOMENT"! THIS IS NOT IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD US! I WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FUNDS! ALL EXPENSES AND WHERE THE COINS WERE KEPT UP UNTIL NOW!



Guys this is an obvious scam. there are 1000 facts speaking for itself, that this will never end good. they said they will deliver in september, now its january.

Its enough time passed, so we can contact consumer protection service in Europe. Its now time to act, before its too late.

The thing with the shares of a company is just a try to keep us calm and giving some naive hope. Who with brain is going to invest more money in that? They are not even running a main net blockchain, not speaking of application using it. This is a fu**** scam nothing else.



sr. member
Activity: 465
Merit: 250
shoutofgaia
When I first watched it I was laughing my ass off and knew that my money was gone!

How much did you invest, please PM me, maybe I can save your soul. Wink
...I am willing to sell my heat...

Just PM me and we will negotiate further.

I think you guys could do it safely, if you use yassinnxt who is a proven escrow. Btc gets deposited to yassin, then when genesis happens, heat gets withdrawn properly to the account of Crapsy who wants to buy it. Once it is verified that Crapsy has gotten the heat. Then yassin can release the btc to StewieG.

Just trying to help, don't want to see any scam exchange happen...

Your help is appreciated, thank you.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
When I first watched it I was laughing my ass off and knew that my money was gone!

How much did you invest, please PM me, maybe I can save your soul. Wink
...I am willing to sell my heat...

Just PM me and we will negotiate further.
done
sr. member
Activity: 465
Merit: 250
shoutofgaia
When I first watched it I was laughing my ass off and knew that my money was gone!

How much did you invest, please PM me, maybe I can save your soul. Wink
...I am willing to sell my heat...

Just PM me and we will negotiate further.
sr. member
Activity: 465
Merit: 250
shoutofgaia
When I first watched it I was laughing my ass off and knew that my money was gone!

How much did you invest, please PM me, maybe I can save your soul. Wink
hero member
Activity: 524
Merit: 500
Regarding communication...there was a big explanation of the technical update on the 29th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17338730

And another update on January 4th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17388681

Another on the 4th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17396060

Comparison table posted on the 5th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17408410

Another update on the 5th with a draft design:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17411030

This is evidence of a definite improvement of communication, and working with us more as investors.
I don't really understand why people are not remaining calm in the most recent history of this thread.

Also a reminder a long time ago from jl777:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15548233

"...I have no worries about making ROI with HEAT"

Dude i like your optimism but these guys are just taking the piss now

Desperate hope is drug, can poison people any time, investing in scam project and can't give it up, it's like overdosing drugs.
sr. member
Activity: 457
Merit: 250
Bancor
Regarding communication...there was a big explanation of the technical update on the 29th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17338730

And another update on January 4th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17388681

Another on the 4th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17396060

Comparison table posted on the 5th:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17408410

Another update on the 5th with a draft design:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17411030

This is evidence of a definite improvement of communication, and working with us more as investors.
I don't really understand why people are not remaining calm in the most recent history of this thread.

Also a reminder a long time ago from jl777:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15548233

"...I have no worries about making ROI with HEAT"

Dude i like your optimism but these guys are just taking the piss now
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Notice something guys? They never provided any proof about where the funds are! They stated (recalculated somehow after people asking how much money they got) that they raised about 800k$.  30% or something of this is already gone, imagine this is more than 200.000$ (My prediction is they bought a house and wrote it off as company expenses and the rest are overpaid salaries for those 2 dickheads). They did not tell us where it went! It is just gone. I guess by now 50% are already gone!  If we don't even know how they keep the money, they can just tell us anything. For example the eth and btc price rises, they will say oh no we hold the money in dollar, and theyjust keep the dividend. If the Eth and btc price goes down, they will say we kept it in dollar. We can not verify it! So far no proof has been provided even though this can be done in a matter of minutes! They try to avoid this issue so obviously that it becomes almost suspicious!


sr. member
Activity: 403
Merit: 250
Eliphaz is a joke among finnish crypto people. He is a true professional cheater.

I think you are all naive, If you still believe you have invested in real business case.

Svante Lehtinen can just cheat and make up explanation for any situation. He does not have any skills or will to run real business. This is his second crypto cheating so far. Sooner or later he and his projects will be under criminal investigation by police in Finland.

There is many discussions in different forums about him, where he is trying to convince people to trust and donate money, these are in finnish, try google translator.

https://forum.bittiraha.fi/t/heat-ledger-suomalainen-startup-ja-3-0-kryptoalusta/3255

https://forum.bittiraha.fi/t/fimk-kansainvalinen-pos-perustulovaluutta-julkaisijana-krypto-fin-ry/2064

He is already a big cheater in his first ico shit, fimk. I wonder why people invested this shit for 2nd time, and they know his black history. Their money is easy to scam

That is someway accurate, but you have to remember that that particular forum is full of people who really hate altcoins.

Anyway, Eliphaz did you remember our bet on how the FIMK will survive (https://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=614.msg4461#msg4461).

I knew that FIMK will fail utterly and I am little bit scared that you have not learned a darn thing. I hope that I am wrong this time, because it would nice cashout at least little bit.

His fimk seems never to be listed in any normal exchange, like bittrex, they will not be able to list heat in bittrex either. Maybe there will never a launch at all
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
move that crypto
The team has 1M HEAT released to them after 1 year.  They probably have another couple million from FIMK exchanges as well.

Heat is a great concept, great name, great community.  If the team keeps doing good business, then their HEAT holdings will become more valuable than the ico money they collected.  The success of HEAT will also open up more business opportunities.

Everyone is on the same team here with a common goal of adding value and growth.
hero member
Activity: 500
Merit: 507
Heat team, you can clearly see that the way you managed this thing so far (poorly) is making a lot of people very very pissed off.
If you really have the intention to release this as a quality product, I strongly suggest you show us this by facts and not words and air. Keeping this project closed source is only increasing the feeling you are not gonna deliver anything or a bad product at best.
If you had no real intention to release something meaningful and just made this ICO to ride the back of your now very pissed off investors, I strongly suggest you make them whole or suffer the consequences. Believe me, there will be very dire consequences for you if you just walk away with the money.
In any case, if you build a solid well made project, you can create much more value not only for your investors but also for your selves.

Trust is something obtained with great effort, but ruined very easily by foolish actions (or lack of the right actions sometimes...). I think that the people in this community who gave you funds to make this project according to your promises had lots and lots of patience for you so far, but this is changing due to your own behavior.

You have enough money, you should do the following things (in parallel): A) get more people (trusted people from the community is much better...) to join this project in key specialized roles to push it forward  B) move this forward also in the pr and trading fronts (using specialized people) C) make and publish clear plans (it is called a roadmap) you can and will COMMIT TO - with proven progress along the way.

And a final word of advice, be humble when you talk to people who invested in your project and this community. Being arrogant will get you very little. Your investors are the only reason you have the ability to be doing this project in the first place. Oh, and believe me, if you tried to get VC money to accomplish this you would be kissing so many asses your lips would bleed.
sr. member
Activity: 465
Merit: 250
shoutofgaia
Please ship your HEAT to me. Just PM, ain't that hard Wink
sr. member
Activity: 471
Merit: 250
My prediction of July:


(...) Use this feedback to think about it. Money won't be a compensation for the pressure you will earn if you go on with that. Disappointed Investors are much worse than I am here. (...)

(...)
And sure, there are enough naive and unexperienced guys and even more gamblers to send you money. You will learn that money can be pressure. It creates very intense identifications over a long time. And I'm not speaking just of Scams. It doesn't matter what you plan. You will find out that I'm not guessing.

Hey, in ICO phase they said they would deliver by September 5, possibly September 10, and its only January now! :-)

Some will rob you with a six-gun, others with a fountain pen.


And even better, he stated one or two pages ago, that they did not want to discuss a listing because there would still be MONTHS of work. Meaning, that he already knew about the delays beforehand. And LYING to the community about the genesis release in September.
legendary
Activity: 1045
Merit: 1000
My prediction of July:


(...) Use this feedback to think about it. Money won't be a compensation for the pressure you will earn if you go on with that. Disappointed Investors are much worse than I am here. (...)

(...)
And sure, there are enough naive and unexperienced guys and even more gamblers to send you money. You will learn that money can be pressure. It creates very intense identifications over a long time. And I'm not speaking just of Scams. It doesn't matter what you plan. You will find out that I'm not guessing.

Hey, in ICO phase they said they would deliver by September 5, possibly September 10, and its only January now! :-)

Some will rob you with a six-gun, others with a fountain pen.

they dont care, thats obvious by now. and that not going to change anyday.
legendary
Activity: 1045
Merit: 1000
Lol, those HEAT guys are so incopetent, must be one of the most incopetent people in crypto. They are not scammers, they just don't understand how crypto and blockchain niche works. No wonders investors are literally linig up to some other blockchain startups and those guys are having trouuble finding investors.

Once again, dear VC, angel investor or some other investor. If you are reading this and are considering giving your money to those guys, Please trust us, the people who spent many years in blockchain startups area - do not give those guys any money. They are incopetent and can't deliver even on basic things. Dear potential investor, ask anyone with crypto experience if HEAT is a project worth investing in and act accordingly.

Those guys are making second blockchain startup and making exactly the same mistakes like with the first one.

yeah its unbelievable how unprofessional these guys work. they need a boss to kick their asses. we as a community can make something but not enough.

imagine this self called CEO climed down the hill to talk to us, not giving just useless anouncements, about the left-wing crypto propaganda newsletter, and said he would support listing on bittrex (before that he was just saying to fuck them) but saying in the same sentence that he is too lazy for getting along with them (and this work can be done by the community) and keeping saying or dreaming of an own trading exchange LOL

this project is doomed. no response from the devs, bad, bad management or at least communication.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
My prediction of July:


(...) Use this feedback to think about it. Money won't be a compensation for the pressure you will earn if you go on with that. Disappointed Investors are much worse than I am here. (...)

(...)
And sure, there are enough naive and unexperienced guys and even more gamblers to send you money. You will learn that money can be pressure. It creates very intense identifications over a long time. And I'm not speaking just of Scams. It doesn't matter what you plan. You will find out that I'm not guessing.

Hey, in ICO phase they said they would deliver by September 5, possibly September 10, and its only January now! :-)

Some will rob you with a six-gun, others with a fountain pen.
sr. member
Activity: 471
Merit: 250
My prediction of July:


(...) Use this feedback to think about it. Money won't be a compensation for the pressure you will earn if you go on with that. Disappointed Investors are much worse than I am here. (...)

(...)
And sure, there are enough naive and unexperienced guys and even more gamblers to send you money. You will learn that money can be pressure. It creates very intense identifications over a long time. And I'm not speaking just of Scams. It doesn't matter what you plan. You will find out that I'm not guessing.

You were right about absolutely everything...
sr. member
Activity: 465
Merit: 250
shoutofgaia
I've got an idea! All you guys who just can't finish one sentence with a positive outcome, if you have invested in HEAT, please PM me and I will try to save your souls  Grin I will gladly give a hand with the largest effort to try to rescue you from this blatant scam that real people with real names and real photos of themselves are trying to pull on you.  Grin Grin

You know where to find me.
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