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Topic: [ANN] [ICO] Bitclave — The Privacy Is Yours ★ Important Announcement  ★ - page 97. (Read 114452 times)

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If someone uses your profile to earn stakes in the bounty program, we have nothing to do with this. Why are you accusing us of this?
Because the very fact you need to advertise and garner support in this manner, appearing to actively encourage it at worst, and turn a blind eye to it at best, speaks volumes for the integrity of the program as a whole.  In fact looking at the post history of your account seems to suggest that too has been hacked/stolen/sold.  If the people behind this project had faith in it, they would post under their own accounts and not feel the need to try and artificially create trust by buying/stealing established accounts.   If I have a business idea I want to pitch, I pitch it myself, I don't go to the bank dressed up as Richard Branson and try to convince them they are dealing with somebody they aren't.
The only people who will make money from this project are the few who want to encourage the many to part with a small amount.  They know full well that the many will just write off their investment, its just like unsecured crowdfunding on a different platform.  Stolen profiles, the irony of "bounty" rewards being paid to identity thieves and all this behaviour circling a project that expects legitimate business to part with significant cash for access to data and pay for advertising, and you want private investors to pony up double what the EIB invested in Qwant.  OK, Good luck with that.
Just to note, in case you missed the bleeding obvious, the whole advertising model works for Google because of the data received from searches.  They can then sell companies very specific targeted data for their adverts.  That's why companies pay to advertise through google, so they can make sure their adverts are seen by people who are actually interested in their category of product.  Without competing on the search side, you are just selling blind advertising space.  What you are doing is recreating the yellow pages.
Im all for entrepreneurial activity, but to wake up one morning and decide you want to take on Googles advertising stronghold, with zero users and zero data input from millions of customers searches, and ask the general public to stick their hand in their pocket for $50m, is just daft.

Thank you once again, C3ALLtemp for comments regarding our project which obviously touches you deep.

Everyone from this forum can participate in the Bounty Campaign, we absolutely have no intention to buy/steal or otherwise relate to users’ accounts. However if you’ve got any proofs of account ownership you’re claiming please kindly provide it so we we could take it off from the campaign.

The user name “Tyska” is my own since the beginning. According to the Forum’s Rules it’s not prohibited to post in any threads on any languages… Our CEO Alex Bessonov is extremely busy with this project and isn’t able to monitor every post on this Forum. But you could be in touch with him by using a chat window on our genuine website.

Just a few more points on platform’ tech aspect. We don’t compete with Google in full as we don’t index the sites. We’re building product & services search engine. BitClave is playing two roles.

Role#1 is to build a platform that can be used to build 3rd party service and role#2 is to build the services. You can read more on a high level here https://medium.com/@BitClave/search-engines-in-the-era-of-blockchain-be29d6cb582. IPFS, FileCoin, Storj are technologies for storing the raw data, these are not the indexes. The raw data will be anonymized and open to all to build their 3rd party services - this is to attract more players and to make the BASE ecosystem better.

The BASE DB is used to provide BitClave’s services for search and ranking - this is where BitClave is playing it’s 2nd role. At this stage, we do not plan to give 3rd party access to the indexes, but we are considering to give API to 3rd party to use the search results.

Off-chain distributed storage is required because on-chain storage is much more expensive, so this is cost reduction technique we are considering.

Search results are given to REQUEST contract (which is on blockchain) and then REQEST contract can further communicate with OFFER contract to finalize the deal. The role of search engine is to provide potential matches and the final decision is done by the contracts themselves.

Search Engine can be compared in its role to a realtor in real estate business - it tries to match buyer and seller but the final decision is by buyer and seller. And you can have many of these search engines.

All providing “potential matches”. The REQUEST contract is going to receive a pointer to “recommended” OFFER and then REQUEST can directly verify if he “likes” the OFFER. The “recommendation” will come from multiple search engines, but neither REQUEST nor OFFER trust the recommendation so they are going to verify each other directly. You can provide your own search engine. You have access to all the information. This is important design point for BASE, we want to ENABLE 3rd party services, so all relevant information is stored in open storage.
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Hi.

In less than 24 hours, I'll share with you my own experiences as a ''regular guy''  that has invested into Bitclave ICO before the crowdsale.

I recently received a great services toward my ''security investment'' before the crowdsale.

I won't say anything else and give you proof tomorrow that we can count on them and even if we live a cryptocurrencies scam world, they can deliver something that can make us thing forward about our own investment.

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Thank you for giving you the transparent information, I would like to ask 30% of the long-term budget is mainly used for what, this is very high
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
If this coin/currency/whatever is being pumped by the massive number of spammers as it appears, it is destined to do nothing more than rip people off.
Any posts made by my account C3ALL, in this thread have not been made by me.  They have been made by a scammer that then appears to have sold it on to another scammer/farmer.  The signature that is now attached to my account is almost identical to dozens of others that are posting in this thread.  The scammers are even having "conversations" with themselves to try and pump this stuff up.
Avoid.  Like the plague.
Feel free to check the posts made by "C3ALL" here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/c3all-189431
As you can see, I left crypto back in 2014 and didnt post again.  That is until October this year when my account suddenly started posting again.  It appears I lost my ability to write coherently in English too.
Then later in October, for whatever reason, I started posting in Romanian...  Roll Eyes
My advice, avoid this project, and avoid anything posted since 2014 by my original account C3ALL.
If someone uses your profile to earn stakes in the bounty program, we have nothing to do with this. Why are you accusing us of this?


Because the very fact you need to advertise and garner support in this manner, appearing to actively encourage it at worst, and turn a blind eye to it at best, speaks volumes for the integrity of the program as a whole.  In fact looking at the post history of your account seems to suggest that too has been hacked/stolen/sold.  If the people behind this project had faith in it, they would post under their own accounts and not feel the need to try and artificially create trust by buying/stealing established accounts.   If I have a business idea I want to pitch, I pitch it myself, I don't go to the bank dressed up as Richard Branson and try to convince them they are dealing with somebody they aren't.


What an earth are you talking about? You just discredited all of your accusations. Somehow i am thinking that you are the one getting paid now for fudding with so low effort. Cheesy Reality check please, most projects in btctalk have a signature program. And you are suggesting that Tyska's account was stolen?! Cheesy, Seriously why would anyone steal or buy a jr member / newb account? You do realize that Tyska is Bitclave support and has been it from the beginning of this? Or maybe you don't, because you don't do research.
Oh yeah, and before you start; i am getting paid! Not paid for shilling them, but for wearing their signature, so what? Whee!
newbie
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Is individual cap expected?  Smiley
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ICOBAZAAR: ALL ICOs IN ONE PLACE
Hey BitClave community,
From now, you have a chance to review this ICO and earn crypto!

We value your opinion and are ready to reward you for it!

We’re now offering all users a chance to review upcoming ICOs on our platform for a chance to earn some crypto. This approach will be helpful for the project team, as they can hear some feedback from the audience   Wink

What you need to know:
—The top 5 reviewers will receive rewards in ETH
—1st place review is selected by ICObazaar (reward=0.1ETH)
—2nd-5th place rewards are given to the reviews with the highest # of upvotes from other users (reward=0.4 ETH, split among the 4 winners proportionally according to # of upvotes)
—Reviewing for upcoming ICOs is open up until the day the ICO launches.

Here’s how it works:
1. Register on icobazaar.com
2. Review an upcoming ICO on our platform — reviews are located on every ICO page under upcoming ICOs, here is BitClave page
3. Hopefully be one of the top 5 reviewers

See you there !
newbie
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Everything looks good and hope the project will be more successful than I expected
sr. member
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Hello everybody Wink when will the bounty paid? When you reach the hard cap and then? After few weeks? Or faster?
I think they will paid bounty at the end of ICO. and Ico not end yet so you must wait 3-4 week to get paid
member
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Hello everybody Wink when will the bounty paid? When you reach the hard cap and then? After few weeks? Or faster?
newbie
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sr. member
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I am sympathetic to the idea, when viewing ads give money to those who have seen the advertisement. It justice. Looking forward to 8th November!
hero member
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One thing I don't completely understand is the amount you aim to raise, which is $50 million and the number of tokens you want to sell, which is 1 billion at $0.10. How can your hard cap be $50 million if you are looking to sell 1 billion tokens at $0.10?
hero member
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Bisq Market Day - March 20th 2023
Just read about your awesome rating. This seems to be a rock solid project. Is there still a pre-sale going or a whitelist?
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Hello Community !

I am here to participate before ico in the Bounty !

But when I tried the Slack is Full !

Does anyone know how to participate if the Slack is Full ?
sr. member
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Keep it Simple guys :)
So the ICO will start at 8 november, hope the ICO from this project will succed
but presale investors should wait for a long time to get their token
regards
newbie
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If this coin/currency/whatever is being pumped by the massive number of spammers as it appears, it is destined to do nothing more than rip people off.
Any posts made by my account C3ALL, in this thread have not been made by me.  They have been made by a scammer that then appears to have sold it on to another scammer/farmer.  The signature that is now attached to my account is almost identical to dozens of others that are posting in this thread.  The scammers are even having "conversations" with themselves to try and pump this stuff up.
Avoid.  Like the plague.
Feel free to check the posts made by "C3ALL" here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/c3all-189431
As you can see, I left crypto back in 2014 and didnt post again.  That is until October this year when my account suddenly started posting again.  It appears I lost my ability to write coherently in English too.
Then later in October, for whatever reason, I started posting in Romanian...  Roll Eyes
My advice, avoid this project, and avoid anything posted since 2014 by my original account C3ALL.
If someone uses your profile to earn stakes in the bounty program, we have nothing to do with this. Why are you accusing us of this?


Because the very fact you need to advertise and garner support in this manner, appearing to actively encourage it at worst, and turn a blind eye to it at best, speaks volumes for the integrity of the program as a whole.  In fact looking at the post history of your account seems to suggest that too has been hacked/stolen/sold.  If the people behind this project had faith in it, they would post under their own accounts and not feel the need to try and artificially create trust by buying/stealing established accounts.   If I have a business idea I want to pitch, I pitch it myself, I don't go to the bank dressed up as Richard Branson and try to convince them they are dealing with somebody they aren't.

The only people who will make money from this project are the few who want to encourage the many to part with a small amount.  They know full well that the many will just write off their investment, its just like unsecured crowdfunding on a different platform.  Stolen profiles, the irony of "bounty" rewards being paid to identity thieves and all this behaviour circling a project that expects legitimate business to part with significant cash for access to data and pay for advertising, and you want private investors to pony up double what the EIB invested in Qwant.  OK, Good luck with that.

Just to note, in case you missed the bleeding obvious, the whole advertising model works for Google because of the data received from searches.  They can then sell companies very specific targeted data for their adverts.  That's why companies pay to advertise through google, so they can make sure their adverts are seen by people who are actually interested in their category of product.  Without competing on the search side, you are just selling blind advertising space.  What you are doing is recreating the yellow pages.

Im all for entrepreneurial activity, but to wake up one morning and decide you want to take on Googles advertising stronghold, with zero users and zero data input from millions of customers searches, and ask the general public to stick their hand in their pocket for $50m, is just daft.
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one of the best private search engines in EU was built from scratch to full implementation and 70 million users with $10 million.
Fully backuped up from the German and French governments, ministries of education, with the European Inv. Bank injecting $25 million lately.

And an ico wants to raise $50 million with a whitepaper and zero user ?
I don't think the world is funny anymore

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vv78va/why-french-search-engine-qwant-thinks-it-can-beat-google

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwant

these aren't entirely equal operations. bitclave is attempting to decentralize the profiteering model. ownership of the ico pays dividends.
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Where can we follow real time how much has the ico raised so far?
This information will be available during the launch of ICO


Is there a detailed business model available how you will try to attacke the market share of a well established search engine like Google?
I really like the idea, but Google perfected its search engine algorithms over decades.
Hi,
What are you going to be your first steps in order to acquire some market value?
We will not compete with Google in the search for sites. Only in the field of advertising.
As part of the initial ecosystem bootstrapping, we have already introduced 15-20 small companies for the initial instance of the BASE market. Our team will continue to target industries where significant effort is put into marketing to individual customers, such as auto sales, real estate, hotels, and retailers like Target that compete with major ad service providers. Once our small market is established, we will increase our marketing efforts to continually expand the number of players involved.
A lot of information about the project is in white paper https://docsend.com/view/84tv53w


If this coin/currency/whatever is being pumped by the massive number of spammers as it appears, it is destined to do nothing more than rip people off.
Any posts made by my account C3ALL, in this thread have not been made by me.  They have been made by a scammer that then appears to have sold it on to another scammer/farmer.  The signature that is now attached to my account is almost identical to dozens of others that are posting in this thread.  The scammers are even having "conversations" with themselves to try and pump this stuff up.
Avoid.  Like the plague.
Feel free to check the posts made by "C3ALL" here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/c3all-189431
As you can see, I left crypto back in 2014 and didnt post again.  That is until October this year when my account suddenly started posting again.  It appears I lost my ability to write coherently in English too.
Then later in October, for whatever reason, I started posting in Romanian...  Roll Eyes
My advice, avoid this project, and avoid anything posted since 2014 by my original account C3ALL.
If someone uses your profile to earn stakes in the bounty program, we have nothing to do with this. Why are you accusing us of this?


Has anybody heard anything about bitclave with their decentralized search engine project? Why do they use Ethereum blockchain instead of bitcoin blockchain?
BASE system is heavily relying on Smart Contracts. Bitcoin does not provide such flexibility, while Ethereum is the most common platform today that supports Smart Contracts
hero member
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Is there a detailed business model available how you will try to attacke the market share of a well established search engine like Google?

I really like the idea, but Google perfected its search engine algorithms over decades.

New players on search engines market can start clan search without political and corporative dependencies. It can attract many new users, who dont want to see "big brothers" search.

I recommend to read the white paper. It's well written and explains a lot of the things the people are asking here. Worth a read!
sr. member
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Has anybody heard anything about bitclave with their decentralized search engine project? Why do they use Ethereum blockchain instead of bitcoin blockchain?
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