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DEX is really kinda slow right now
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Hindsight being 20/20, I wish the Wagerr team would have just kept all funds locked up and not offered a trading token on the Waves DEX until MainNet launch.  The team tried to help out all the weak hands and whiners who want to trade or cash out early before a product is finished.  Now all we hear is bitching in the Slack about Wagerr sucks because the price is low, or Wagerr is a scam because I can't get the answers I want even though the questions have already been answered several times.  And now the team has to take time out from development, marketing, and useful productivity to answer a million Waves related questions and coddle a bunch of whiners who don't like the volatility of crypto prices.

For all those who can't handle the swing in crypto price, take your shit and go home.  Sell your position and be done.  To continue complaining, is to show your true colors.  You're either working for a competitor, or you're FUDDing to try to get cheap coin.  
Yup, it is posts like this that annoys the shit out of me.

I don't wanna sell so no one else should be able to sell.  Love the attitude.

The major complaint is to put it in a real exchange.  TBH, I think Waves platform could work but definitely not Waves DEX.  The liquidity is NOT there for people who wants to sell.  What do you even gain from trapping them if they don't believe in the project?  

I will wait and see how the exchange pans out since someone mentioned they posted they are working to get it on exchanges.  But this community is borderline toxic with the "You have Waves DEX (that has shit liquidity), that's all you get till mainnet"


Wagerr Volume Statistics on Wave's DEX:

                  Wagerr/BTC    Wagerr/Waves   = 24 hr tot est val in USD $
07/01/2017:     28.62898980             2780.24236528             $82,000
07/02/2017:     18.11105841             3934.90559685             $60,000
07/03/2017:     20.26675335             1734.45253769             $57,000

Only 3 days worth of time has passed for people to move their Wagerr over to Waves anyways, so only like 10% of the Wagerr tokens are even on Waves at this point, so why is everyone complaining that you have no volume or liquidity?   People don't even hardly have their WGR out there to trade with yet, so how do you expect there to be much more volume than this yet?  There is well over half a $billion stored already in the Wave's ecosystem, if more people wanna trade WGR, there is plenty of money and other valuable assets like bitcoin or USD/EURO and Waves to trade it against.  You could even trade WGR/MGO if you want.  Whatever pairing you want that has a token there.  I think the lack of volume complaints don't make sense though. Do you guys really want $500k worth of volume on day 1 after the ICO?  That would mean a shit ton of sellers were dumping WGR, right?  DEX has more than enough volume to support WGR trading, especially once everyone is set up and has moved their WGR there, and understands how to use an exchange and the Waves liteclient.  


Do you ever look at any coin that debut at Bittrex?  Generally the 1st day is one of the highest volume day for a coin until they start developing.  So yes I expect it to have $500-$1mil+ in day 1 easily.  

I even question how the trade statistics you're showing is calculated because I really see low liquidity.  How do you get $57,000 worth of wagerr from below?

Straight copied and paste from Wave Trade History.  On a cursory glance I can tell you there is no point of me even bother selling on Waves DEX because even if I spend the entire day I won't sell all my wagerr:

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Date   Type   Price (WAVES)   Amount (WGR)   Total (WAVES)
7/3/2017 20:49:58   Sell   0.01400000   4,940.39456720   69.16552394
7/3/2017 20:49:58   Sell   0.01400000   1,000.00000000   14.00000000
7/3/2017 20:49:58   Sell   0.01400000   5,000.00000000   70.00000000
7/3/2017 20:49:58   Sell   0.01400000   300.00000000   4.20000000
7/3/2017 20:49:58   Sell   0.01400100   50.00000000   0.70005000
7/3/2017 20:49:46   Sell   0.01410000   783.60000000   11.04876000
7/3/2017 20:49:46   Sell   0.01420000   560.00000000   7.95200000
7/3/2017 20:49:46   Sell   0.01420000   10.00543280   0.14207715
7/3/2017 20:02:19   Sell   0.01420000   4,242.49592540   60.24344214
7/3/2017 20:02:19   Sell   0.01430000   2,818.01331259   40.29759037
7/3/2017 19:45:05   Sell   0.01430000   880.00049850   12.58400713
7/3/2017 19:43:56   Sell   0.01430000   554.48754711   7.92917192
7/3/2017 19:43:56   Sell   0.01440000   4,252.50135820   61.23601956
7/3/2017 19:43:56   Sell   0.01440000   4,252.50135820   61.23601956
7/3/2017 19:08:06   Sell   0.01410000   710.00000000   10.01100000
7/3/2017 18:35:30   Sell   0.01440000   4,999.11358969   71.98723569
7/3/2017 18:34:06   Sell   0.01490000   4,238.36695653   63.15166765
7/3/2017 17:45:15   Sell   0.01490000   224.00000000   3.33760000
7/3/2017 17:20:43   Sell   0.01490000   3,000.00000000   44.70000000
7/3/2017 17:05:01   Sell   0.01490000   1,190.00000000   17.73100000
7/3/2017 16:46:39   Sell   0.01490000   2,750.00000000   40.97500000
7/3/2017 16:22:14   Buy   0.01490000   877.63304347   13.07673235
7/3/2017 15:51:16   Buy   0.01490000   1.00000000   0.01490000
7/3/2017 15:34:49   Buy   0.01490000   67.00000000   0.99830000
7/3/2017 15:33:42   Sell   0.01440000   5,000.88641031   72.01276431
7/3/2017 15:33:42   Sell   0.01450000   100.00000000   1.45000000
7/3/2017 15:33:42   Sell   0.01450000   190.00000000   2.75500000
7/3/2017 15:21:23   Buy   0.01490000   66.00000000   0.98340000
7/3/2017 14:58:13   Sell   0.01490000   400.00000000   5.96000000
7/3/2017 14:58:04   Sell   0.01500000   4,299.80000000   64.49700000
7/3/2017 14:58:04   Sell   0.01500000   9.70000000   0.14550000
7/3/2017 14:12:28   Buy   0.01750000   110.00000000   1.92500000
7/3/2017 12:10:13   Buy   0.01800000   1.22693809   0.02208489
7/3/2017 11:20:31   Buy   0.01840000   6.00000000   0.11040000
7/3/2017 10:06:58   Sell   0.01410000   3,256.40000000   45.91524000
7/3/2017 10:06:02   Sell   0.01450001   2,743.60000000   39.78222744
7/3/2017 9:46:15   Sell   0.01450001   9,013.00000000   130.68859013
7/3/2017 8:57:18   Sell   0.01660000   6,000.00000000   99.60000000
7/3/2017 5:54:54   Sell   0.01450001   4,230.40000000   61.34084230
7/3/2017 5:45:54   Sell   0.01510000   2,000.00000000   30.20000000
7/3/2017 5:45:54   Sell   0.01520000   125.00000000   1.90000000
7/3/2017 5:45:54   Sell   0.01520002   295.70000000   4.49464591
7/3/2017 5:45:54   Sell   0.01520003   2,630.00000000   39.97607890
7/3/2017 4:46:55   Sell   0.01600000   13,498.38505211   215.97416083
7/3/2017 3:35:46   Sell   0.01610000   180.00000000   2.89800000
7/3/2017 3:34:40   Sell   0.01625000   10,000.00000000   162.50000000
7/3/2017 3:28:33   Buy   0.01850000   5,105.00000000   94.44250000
7/3/2017 3:28:33   Buy   0.01840000   318.44403635   5.85937027
7/3/2017 2:32:25   Sell   0.01610000   20.00000000   0.32200000
7/3/2017 0:44:13   Sell   0.01600000   4,144.25298652   66.30804778
Less than 100k of Wagerr was sold, which around 2 BTC at ICO.   But somehow you quoted $57k worth of Wagerr sold in USD.  Unless somehow people were overpaying 4-5 times, your number is not likely to be correct.

On Wave DEX there is no fking buyer because there isn't a lot of users in the Exchange.  Stop pretending like this isn't an issue, and we're all just imagining things.  Its similar to the issue SONM is having right now.  They sold $30 mil worth of SONM tokens, but their best exchange is liqui.io, which is still many times larger than Waves DEX.

Also, what does it matter if people move their Wagerr to Waves DEX, Tideus, or any low volume exchange?  There's no buyers is the main complaint.

Compare and don't tell me you're giving us an exchange to trade on.  The most popular pair on Wave is Wave/BTC (naturally) and it has a lousy 150k trade volume:

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/waves-dex/
vs
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/liqui/
vs
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bittrex/

I know Wagerr team is working on getting it on more exchange so I'll adopt a wait-and-see approach.

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When i try to buy on waves i get "error! order not created!"....what....


Trades on the DEX cost .003 Waves to complete (but 0 to cancel), so you have to get some Waves in order to trade there.

Get some free Waves from the faucets here in order to get started:

http://www.wavesgo.com/faucet.html | http://freewav.es | http://wavesdrop.com







Hindsight being 20/20, I wish the Wagerr team would have just kept all funds locked up and not offered a trading token on the Waves DEX until MainNet launch.  The team tried to help out all the weak hands and whiners who want to trade or cash out early before a product is finished.  Now all we hear is bitching in the Slack about Wagerr sucks because the price is low, or Wagerr is a scam because I can't get the answers I want even though the questions have already been answered several times.  And now the team has to take time out from development, marketing, and useful productivity to answer a million Waves related questions and coddle a bunch of whiners who don't like the volatility of crypto prices.

For all those who can't handle the swing in crypto price, take your shit and go home.  Sell your position and be done.  To continue complaining, is to show your true colors.  You're either working for a competitor, or you're FUDDing to try to get cheap coin. 
Yup, it is posts like this that annoys the shit out of me.

I don't wanna sell so no one else should be able to sell.  Love the attitude.

The major complaint is to put it in a real exchange.  TBH, I think Waves platform could work but definitely not Waves DEX.  The liquidity is NOT there for people who wants to sell.  What do you even gain from trapping them if they don't believe in the project? 

I will wait and see how the exchange pans out since someone mentioned they posted they are working to get it on exchanges.  But this community is borderline toxic with the "You have Waves DEX (that has shit liquidity), that's all you get till mainnet"


Wagerr Volume Statistics on Wave's DEX:

                  Wagerr/BTC    Wagerr/Waves   = 24 hr tot est val in USD $
07/01/2017:     28.62898980             2780.24236528             $82,000
07/02/2017:     18.11105841             3934.90559685             $60,000
07/03/2017:     20.26675335             1734.45253769             $57,000

Only 3 days worth of time has passed for people to move their Wagerr over to Waves anyways, so only like 10% of the Wagerr tokens are even on Waves at this point, so why is everyone complaining that you have no volume or liquidity?   People don't even hardly have their WGR out there to trade with yet, so how do you expect there to be much more volume than this yet?  There is well over half a $billion stored already in the Wave's ecosystem, if more people wanna trade WGR, there is plenty of money and other valuable assets like bitcoin or USD/EURO and Waves to trade it against.  You could even trade WGR/MGO if you want.  Whatever pairing you want that has a token there.  I think the lack of volume complaints don't make sense though. Do you guys really want $500k worth of volume on day 1 after the ICO?  That would mean a shit ton of sellers were dumping WGR, right?  DEX has more than enough volume to support WGR trading, especially once everyone is set up and has moved their WGR there, and understands how to use an exchange and the Waves liteclient. 

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And i second the suggestion of jailtime for anyone spreading bearish sentiment without a good reason! So im with you on that one, whoever said it  Wink

Actually if the ICO investment world was more civilized we would simply deal with bears and trolls by beheading. But since we cannot do that we should just crowdfund some hits from the dark market to go and off everyone who bashes our reasonable portfolios in public.

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This thread has become full of super salty folks lol
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Looks like quick money has been going into peoples heads lately. I mean considering how well the crypto world has been doing, it almost looks like any exponential return is a shit offer. I guess too much honey makes you bitter  Cheesy

I cant complain about anything yet (or give my praises, il reserve that for the launch), so far they have kept things going and i hope things keep going smoothly.





Naw im just kidding, im fucking pissed. As far as i understood what the videos on the pages were saying is that if i put my money on this there is infinite growth of wealth right after the ICO. Its been three days since token and im not even 10x yet fuck you wager team  Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
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If i had a dollar for every "had i known"
EXCUSE THE CAPS, BUT GUYS/GALS REMEMBER YOUR FUND IS IN ESCROW, ITS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. LISTING ON WAVES DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO CHECK IT OR SELL. I PERSONALLY DON'T BOTHER LOOKING COS I RATHER VIEW THE TOKENS AS STILL BEEN LOCKED UP. NO ONE SCREAMS AT ELON COS THEY INVESTED A FEW GRAND ON TESLA AND HAVEN'T SEEN A 10X RETURN IN A FEW MONTHS. TRUST I UNDERSTAND YOUR  WORRIES ARE REASONABLE, BUT THE GOLDEN RULE STATES THAT YOU SHOULDN'T INVEST MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD. IF YOU WERE JUST GAMBLING ON A 10X POST ICO PRICE, WELL YOU CRAPPED OUT. BUT LUCKY YOU, THE MONEY IS NOT LOST AND WITH TIME YOUR NUMBER IS BOUND TO HIT. SURE I WISH THE TEAM WERE MORE ACTIVE ON THE FORUM, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT CAJOLING OUR EMOTIONAL NEED IS A BIT LOWER ON THE TOTEM. AGAIN, FUND IS IN ESCROW, SO THAT INDICATIVE OF A TEAM THAT'S ACTUALLY WORKING TO ACHIEVE THE PROPOSED GOALS. RATHER THAN JUST THROWING OUT A WHITEPAPER, COLLECT MONEY, CHANGE IT TO FIATS, PROVIDE A DECENT EXCHANGE AND WISHES THE INVESTOR LUCK WHILE DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DELIVER ON THE PROPOSED IDEA, COS THEY ARE ALREADY RICHAGAIN, YOUR FUNDS ARE IN ESCROW, THIS IS NOT GAMBLING, THIS IS AN INVESTMENT THANKS

Funny this is the same noob that came 2 days ago whining about escrow  Cheesy

You should be certain before regurgitating bullshit cos it really make you sound like a certified donkey. Not once did i mention the word eescrow you rotten piece of shit, rather i was complaining about spineless invertebrates playing the part of a bully online cos that the only time they can fully let there balls hang. As you can see from my post,  the idea is not to yell insult at someone worried about their investment but rather aid and  guide there thinking in a positive direction. Sometimes most of the psudo bully, super macho, oh plz look at my chest hair, online but  can't keep a gaze public be able to fathom. Check yourself before spewing bs. Might be a noob on this forum but definitely an elder in life.
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youre just mad you didnt get 100x returns yet
youre obviously poor since you hate burning money
you should be grateful they give you anything at all



is there some kind of shill playbook you can download from wagerr?
you braindead shills all parrot the same tired shit.


It's tiring to listen to people whining about Wagerr OVERDELIVERING at this point!
If there's a braindead shill here it's you, sir - although what you're shilling isn't clear.
My point is simple:  Put your big boy (or big girl) pants on same as when you invested.
For an ICO about gambling there sure are a lot of people who seem to think that means
"Heads I win NOW, Tails I WIN MOAR YESTERDAY!".  If you did your due diligence,
well done.  If not, you have only yourself to blame.

If my assessment is wrong and the team are just scammers, I'll be back to eat my words.
Otherwise they're doing MORE than they PROMISED and getting shit for it. Unreal.

Either sit back and let them work on the project you helped fund - or dump your tokens
right away like they allowed for - and S.T.F.U.!

Cheers!

You sir, win the internet. Hell you win the blockchain. This is some solid investing testament
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youre just mad you didnt get 100x returns yet
youre obviously poor since you hate burning money
you should be grateful they give you anything at all



is there some kind of shill playbook you can download from wagerr?
you braindead shills all parrot the same tired shit.


It's tiring to listen to people whining about Wagerr OVERDELIVERING at this point!
If there's a braindead shill here it's you, sir - although what you're shilling isn't clear.
My point is simple:  Put your big boy (or big girl) pants on same as when you invested.
For an ICO about gambling there sure are a lot of people who seem to think that means
"Heads I win NOW, Tails I WIN MOAR YESTERDAY!".  If you did your due diligence,
well done.  If not, you have only yourself to blame.

If my assessment is wrong and the team are just scammers, I'll be back to eat my words.
Otherwise they're doing MORE than they PROMISED and getting shit for it. Unreal.

Either sit back and let them work on the project you helped fund - or dump your tokens
right away like they allowed for - and S.T.F.U.!

Cheers!
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youre just mad you didnt get 100x returns yet
youre obviously poor since you hate burning money
you should be grateful they give you anything at all



is there some kind of shill playbook you can download from wagerr?
you braindead shills all parrot the same tired shit.

Plz sell yo bags.
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youre just mad you didnt get 100x returns yet
youre obviously poor since you hate burning money
you should be grateful they give you anything at all



is there some kind of shill playbook you can download from wagerr?
you braindead shills all parrot the same tired shit.
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I can't believe the infantilism on display here.  Are you entitled to become wealthy because you invested in something a month ago?
Seems the listing on WAVES DEX is an added bonus for those of us that like to play with the tokens before they're ready.
I am grateful that I was able to learn about WAVES because of WGR.  The built in exchange is a little crude but it's
not like it can't ever be improved and I mean come on - a crypto wallet that you can trade from/in!?  How cool is that?!
Anyone complaining about any of this - you are being completely unreasonable and should STFU.  Even better, dump your
Wagerr on DEX - I have buys waiting in WAVES and BTC - take your pick and drop your bags at the door on your way out.

So to recap, if you are:
1> Whining about lack of exchanges when we got one OUT OF THE GATE!!!? - S.T.F.U.!
2> Whining about the price of a promisary token for a project still in development!!! - seriously??? - S.T.F.U.!
3> Whining about lack of responsiveness from the team!  I've contacted them several times and they reply immediately!  - S.T.F.U.!!!

Super geeked about this project - "BETcoin". 

I just got another 10,000 WGR at .00002 BTC from someone desperate, frightened, or foolish.  Whatever - thanks for the dump!

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why dont you just shut the hell up if you dont have anything constructive to say

Dito. Dont come back in one year crying: "buhuu I sold my Wagerr for 5 cent because you guys were mean to me, now it is 5 USD ..."

deine mama kostet 5 USD
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I get the point people are pointing at now, there are alot of Waves tokens asset trading on other bigger exchange, Wagerr team should look to offer a better exchange for liquidity sake. Wave Dex is a rubbish exchange in my opinion so many fake coins on the site and really confusing

They issued 3 days ago. It took PTOY 10 days plust to get on a decent exchange.  They have said they are in talks with exchanges.  Very few ICOs open on big exchanges the day the coins are issued.
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EXCUSE THE CAPS, BUT GUYS/GALS REMEMBER YOUR FUND IS IN ESCROW, ITS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. LISTING ON WAVES DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO CHECK IT OR SELL. I PERSONALLY DON'T BOTHER LOOKING COS I RATHER VIEW THE TOKENS AS STILL BEEN LOCKED UP. NO ONE SCREAMS AT ELON COS THEY INVESTED A FEW GRAND ON TESLA AND HAVEN'T SEEN A 10X RETURN IN A FEW MONTHS. TRUST I UNDERSTAND YOUR  WORRIES ARE REASONABLE, BUT THE GOLDEN RULE STATES THAT YOU SHOULDN'T INVEST MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD. IF YOU WERE JUST GAMBLING ON A 10X POST ICO PRICE, WELL YOU CRAPPED OUT. BUT LUCKY YOU, THE MONEY IS NOT LOST AND WITH TIME YOUR NUMBER IS BOUND TO HIT. SURE I WISH THE TEAM WERE MORE ACTIVE ON THE FORUM, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT CAJOLING OUR EMOTIONAL NEED IS A BIT LOWER ON THE TOTEM. AGAIN, FUND IS IN ESCROW, SO THAT INDICATIVE OF A TEAM THAT'S ACTUALLY WORKING TO ACHIEVE THE PROPOSED GOALS. RATHER THAN JUST THROWING OUT A WHITEPAPER, COLLECT MONEY, CHANGE IT TO FIATS, PROVIDE A DECENT EXCHANGE AND WISHES THE INVESTOR LUCK WHILE DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DELIVER ON THE PROPOSED IDEA, COS THEY ARE ALREADY RICHAGAIN, YOUR FUNDS ARE IN ESCROW, THIS IS NOT GAMBLING, THIS IS AN INVESTMENT THANKS

Funny this is the same noob that came 2 days ago whining about escrow  Cheesy
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If i had a dollar for every "had i known"
EXCUSE THE CAPS, BUT GUYS/GALS REMEMBER YOUR FUND IS IN ESCROW, ITS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. LISTING ON WAVES DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO CHECK IT OR SELL. I PERSONALLY DON'T BOTHER LOOKING COS I RATHER VIEW THE TOKENS AS STILL BEEN LOCKED UP. NO ONE SCREAMS AT ELON COS THEY INVESTED A FEW GRAND ON TESLA AND HAVEN'T SEEN A 10X RETURN IN A FEW MONTHS. TRUST I UNDERSTAND YOUR  WORRIES ARE REASONABLE, BUT THE GOLDEN RULE STATES THAT YOU SHOULDN'T INVEST MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD. IF YOU WERE JUST GAMBLING ON A 10X POST ICO PRICE, WELL YOU CRAPPED OUT. BUT LUCKY YOU, THE MONEY IS NOT LOST AND WITH TIME YOUR NUMBER IS BOUND TO HIT. SURE I WISH THE TEAM WERE MORE ACTIVE ON THE FORUM, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT CAJOLING OUR EMOTIONAL NEED IS A BIT LOWER ON THE TOTEM. AGAIN, FUND IS IN ESCROW, SO THAT INDICATIVE OF A TEAM THAT'S ACTUALLY WORKING TO ACHIEVE THE PROPOSED GOALS. RATHER THAN JUST THROWING OUT A WHITEPAPER, COLLECT MONEY, CHANGE IT TO FIATS, PROVIDE A DECENT EXCHANGE AND WISHES THE INVESTOR LUCK WHILE DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DELIVER ON THE PROPOSED IDEA, COS THEY ARE ALREADY RICHAGAIN, YOUR FUNDS ARE IN ESCROW, THIS IS NOT GAMBLING, THIS IS AN INVESTMENT THANKS
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why dont you just shut the hell up if you dont have anything constructive to say

Dito. Dont come back in one year crying: "buhuu I sold my Wagerr for 5 cent because you guys were mean to me, now it is 5 USD ..."
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I couldnt sell them if I wanted to you moron
why dont you just shut the hell up if you dont have anything constructive to say

There's buy orders for wagerr in both bitcoin and waves right now on the DEX, and there has been since release.  So yeah you could sell them, but it's clear you just want to complain and spread negativity about the project because a few things didn't go your way.  For real man, don't you have anything better to do with your life?
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