Topic: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! - page 218. (Read 473154 times)

Figured out what? That you lied? It took me a tremendous amount of time, like two minutes of looking at the timestamps of posts. Thank you for your concern though.

So is there anything ION-related that you can discuss? Anything?

Does that mean then that you figured it out yourself by messing about with your system clock.... how much time have you devoted to Ionomy....  for a non investor me thinks a bit too much 

Concerning the other stuff it is of course ontopic your mistake isn't in the data it's at a more fundamental level and anyway I'm just lies right so no point in discussion  but hey that's just me

BTW the numbers that I was throwing around above represent only the revenue side, based on the clearly ludicrous assumption that somehow Gravity wouldn't need advertising. There is no way to get thousands of users without marketing. This is part of the cost per install (CPI), currently $3-$5 (actually higher for more involvement, e.g. registration or purchasing, but let's be generous here) and rising due to the increasingly competitive market. So does ionomy have $200k+ to spend to get those 75k users? We'll find out on March 25.

The part after "Edit:" was added later. Since you didn't let me know who it was I checked myself. And found out that you lied. I'm baffled how you STILL don't know that lying to ME about ME is quite pointless. You better focus on lying about ionomy, there is at least a chance that you could find someone dumber than you to believe it.


Right, actual on topic discussion would be "irrelevant", as opposed to pages upon pages of your pathetic lies

As usual, you can't even tell which part is "wrong". It's not like I made any predictions, just some basic math. Looks like you believe that ionomy is living in a separate universe where the number of users and amounts spent by each user are not "relevant" to the revenue. But at least we have a new deadline. March 25 it is, the day of reckoning.

Hi Suchmoon, I found your math quite interesting. You are not saying whether you think 75K users is a realistic number, although I can guess the answer ;-) I personnaly think these numbers are at least very realistic and even very underestimated looking at the whole business model. We are talking about much more than just one game. Some will be more successful than others but in theory you only need one. I have played the game by the way, it was tested by many users, so not only whales, and I liked it, and so did my family. Only 6 days and you can try it out yourself.

Hi Suchmoon, I found your math quite interesting. You are not saying whether you think 75K users is a realistic number, although I can guess the answer ;-) I personnaly think these numbers are at least very realistic and even very underestimated looking at the whole business model. We are talking about much more than just one game. Some will be more successful than others but in theory you only need one. I have played the game by the way, it was tested by many users, so not only whales, and I liked it, and so did my family. Only 6 days and you can try it out yourself.

The part after "Edit:" was added later. Since you didn't let me know who it was I checked myself. And found out that you lied. I'm baffled how you STILL don't know that lying to ME about ME is quite pointless. You better focus on lying about ionomy, there is at least a chance that you could find someone dumber than you to believe it.


Right, actual on topic discussion would be "irrelevant", as opposed to pages upon pages of your pathetic lies

As usual, you can't even tell which part is "wrong". It's not like I made any predictions, just some basic math. Looks like you believe that ionomy is living in a separate universe where the number of users and amounts spent by each user are not "relevant" to the revenue. But at least we have a new deadline. March 25 it is, the day of reckoning.

I'm sorry, I didn't know someone on slack noticed the timer thing. If you can let me know who that was I'll edit my post and credit them with the discovery.
Edit: I guess I should have known better than trust anything coming out of your shilly piehole. I posted about the timer at 2:52 AM UTC, @kris on slack posted the screenshot at 3:34 AM UTC. Conspiracy solved, you're welcome.

You've just said you didn't notice anyone on slack post about the timer and then you say you posted before @kris. I didn't mention anybody...hmmmm CONTRADICTION in one paragraph.... impressive

Mobile gaming ARPU seems to be $40-ish. ION inflation ATM is ~29k ION or ~3k USD per day or 1+ million USD per year. Therefore ionomy needs 25k+ average users just to break even on inflation (25,000 * $40 = $1m). Actually it's probably closer to 75k users since only one third of in-game spending goes to the purchase pool.

https://www.statista.com/outlook/211/109/mobile-games/united-states#market-users

That doesn't account for the 17 million coins that already exist and don't seem to be backed by anything of value. There is probably quite a bit of pent-up dump pressure in there.  

Your wrong alright but no point countering as this discussion is irrelevant. First game is soon to launch so we will know in a month or so how wrong or right you are.  

Looking forward to reading your review of Gravity

I'm still fascinated that you two shills are so fascinated by my personality that you need to make shit up to keep the conspiracy theory going

I'm sorry, I didn't know someone on slack noticed the timer thing. If you can let me know who that was I'll edit my post and credit them with the discovery.
Edit: I guess I should have known better than trust anything coming out of your shilly piehole. I posted about the timer at 2:52 AM UTC, @kris on slack posted the screenshot at 3:34 AM UTC. Conspiracy solved, you're welcome.

Speaking of distortion - "stopping by" was in the context of me stopping by to chat on slack... of course I look at it more often than once a month, how else would I get those amazingly amusing screenshots?

Ok, so now that we established that this whole ionomy clusterfuck is clearly my fault (again), can we get back on topic?

No marketing seems to be forthcoming so presumably the existing bagholders/whales will have the joy and honor of bankrolling it further. But perhaps I'm wrong about this so I'll math a little bit with the generous assumption that there is a plan to rope new users in.

Mobile gaming ARPU seems to be $40-ish. ION inflation ATM is ~29k ION or ~3k USD per day or 1+ million USD per year. Therefore ionomy needs 25k+ average users just to break even on inflation (25,000 * $40 = $1m). Actually it's probably closer to 75k users since only one third of in-game spending goes to the purchase pool.

https://www.statista.com/outlook/211/109/mobile-games/united-states#market-users

That doesn't account for the 17 million coins that already exist and don't seem to be backed by anything of value. There is probably quite a bit of pent-up dump pressure in there.

Unsurprisingly for a whale - you're lying. Only coins staked since ~ October 2016 are still held in the addresses. There was a million or so coins staked before then and that amount is unaccounted for.

Also your numbers are off by ~100k.


The "team" forked (well, "rebased") the coin and didn't feel it's important to get Yobit onboard with the change. So most likely Yobit is on the wrong chain and the wallet is in maintenance anyway, so stay away from it.

The severe difficulties are, as usual, team ionomy changing things on the fly.

Announce an investor competition to last the whole month, then close the market on Feb 24 to organize a pump somewhere else. Withdrawing ions from the ionomy counts against you in the competition, so the ton of true believers withdrawing to go play on bittrex may skew the results of the competition, but it also may give me some sweet sweet ions, so who knows.

That's not the point. You claimed that the two bounty addresses contain original coins plus staked coins, which is not true and that can be easily seen in the block explorer - the addresses were funded in October with the whitepaper amounts (2.5 and 3.4 million) so coins staked between May and October are not there.

Of course they are SOMEWHERE, the "team" may have them or may have dumped them, we can try to guess but that's meaningless since the "team" is clearly is not interested in keeping the public ledger in order. For example the current 2.5m address did not originate from the original set of 25x 100k addresses that were published in a doc on slack at one point, the coins were moved around and mixed with no regard for the whitepaper.

The "missing" coins are the RESULT of the real issue - persistent lack of transparency and accountability. Ask them about escrow when you get a chance.

You're off by 100k here, check the explorer:


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#!rich

What u wrote reads like u encountered severe difficulties in the process of solving that quest and failed to comprehend the point raised by few older members three pages back: ionomy does not need believers shit, let alone the fact that doesnt need barrow boys like u among followers that are used to complaining about shit investment that went belly up in the eve of a new era of highest bitcoin pumps thoroughly orchestrated by members of bene gesserit guild.

So If it was right on the block explorer there would be no reason to ask where the 1M coins are then? I answered back then (which you had to have read since you scanned through my post history). The 100k you say im off by im not real sure where that comes from so I stand corrected if the block explorer numbers are not right. Is this the 1M (or so) your talking about?https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion-old/wallet.dws?1816.htm
If so they can be found right here https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/block.dws?00000002e04f91402d78b84433ec744aacac5c40952b918fe09a7d623ac33967.htmstarting at address  icpwvkqKbiYKsMTaGJYX4kWz1LtEiw95bf and going to address id2ChexbhnGm9rAP9Xqr1R2L11ovk77SSD
Or is it mixed among these 2.2M? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion-old/wallet.dws?388.htm
Which can be found at the same place starting at address iXiZnT3YNu1wenYedPvdvCkvFVudno5XHF going to address iibcGMYZFv66rvCdCYhuRoyKbnLg1gqEQW

3.4M incentives (whitepaper) 354,500 ION staked
2.5M Bounty (whitepaper) 476,015 ION staked
The coins staked are still held in the addresses.

Awkward. Apologies for calling you a whale, must me unpleasant to be put in the same category as shark and korvas. But then how come you bragged about playing Gravity alpha?

You also replied to posts mentioning the 1 million ION discrepancy back in October or November, so are you not reading what you're replying to or what? How can you "put info together" and not even look at the block explorer to make sure it's correct - isn't that just an equivalent of making shit up?

Pausing trading on ionomy itself is going to put a damper on my quest for knowledge, but since I am a true ionomy believer, I will not be withdrawing my coins to participate in trading on bittrex. This can only mean good things for my quest to win the investor competition since many people will be withdrawing to participate.

This may skew the results of my experiment, but may result in an increase in comedy gold.

Actually not sure where you got the idea that im a whale (im not)? If its not the right information well, I supposed you paid more attention than me then? I didnt intentionally lie as its the info I put together. Yea as suchmoon said stay away from YOBIT as thats a different "ion" thats listed there.

why 50 masternodes? the team did a big premine. they should not be operating masternodes with a premine. its diluting investor returns thar run masternodes. they drew in enough btc in ico not to need this. id like to see an explanation why considering their bounty payments are so low compared to mn rewards for 50 mns.

i predicted ages ago they had the premine in masternodes and showed earning/dump factors.

another point i'll raise is did anyone check coin amount pre re-base and check new ion genesis block to match amounts. a rebase is a good way to hide a second premine. at block length when cut date was should match genesis block of new else its shady dealings as well