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suchmoon

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Relax o0o0, this demand of "facts" is just the usual paycoiner MO

Reminds me of one "crypto-entrepreneur" who thought he can bullshit his way through anything.

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Josh Garza <[email protected]> wrote:

   I want you to start a campaign. I want to hire people whose only job is to follow trolls around and ask for proof.

   That's it, they will not be a shill, as they do not need to talk good about us. The only thing I want them to do is ask for evidence.

   I want this to happen for every single comment/claim a troll makes. And I want to go back to all the comments they have already made and do the same thing.

   Call them truth seekers, does not matter to me. They only need to do one thing, ask for evidence.

   Whatever you need for a budget, it's yours. Just tell me the number.

   Sent from my mobile phone

o0o0

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Quote from: korvas128 on September 30, 2016, 06:24:44 PM

Quote from: Franz_Huber on September 30, 2016, 04:27:16 PM

Quote from: korvas128 on September 30, 2016, 09:23:43 AM

Big thanks to the five ~~fraudster's~~ FUDsters that take time to post FUD at every opportunity
I wonder how many of you are using this as a tactic to buy cheap ION

Straight from the Paycoin book again: Crying "FUD" when people show the many red flags and crying "zOMG the fudsters just want to buy cheap paycoins themselves". Hilarious. Spoken like a true GAWtard.

The whole of crypto is awash in a sea of red flags

Where are the FACTS that prove ION is a scam

Just one will do..... it's been 6+ months now so please share

The lack of answered questions that matter. Its been 6 months now and they transparency is lacking especially when they said they were going to be such.

But lets do the age old one. Ionomy company registration. They stated they were registered that when it was incorrect. Yes they say its gravel and its being renamed... no submitted financial reports etc. They have costs and wages and the like for company but no info.

Ok so its being renamed... care for them to prove such statement. How is it that when they are paying to be an incorporated company in Singapore it can't be updated? Are you in agreement that the Singapore government is somehow constantly incompetent and can't update a record? Or perhaps ion's director company are incompetent and not fixing it? Its such a simple thing yet can't be done.. they did however state that they were incorporated in Singapore as Ionomy which was flat out incorrect. This is a FACT as you wanted to know. On this the company doesn't exist as ionomy which makes it a false company by name and possible scam.

suchmoon

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Quote from: korvas128 on September 30, 2016, 05:59:54 PM

Bitcoin is fast enough...... for buying a cup of coffee absolutely not.

On day 1 if Bitcoin had the speed of confirmation that coins like ION have today. Do you think BTC adoption would be more or the same as today's level of adoption Huh

?

It's been already explained to you how it is possible to have instantaneous transactions for a cup of coffee. You don't need confirmations for micro transactions as long as you know what you're doing.

That's not to say that faster transactions are not useful (thus Lightning, Casper, etc) but you two whales are completely missing the point with this one. ION doesn't offer any use case for its "fast" transactions, and all known future plans evolve around off-chain features anyway (electrons and stuff).

Let's revisit this when you can actually buy a cup of coffee with ION and let's see then what affects adoption.

korvas128

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Quote from: Franz_Huber on September 30, 2016, 04:27:16 PM

Quote from: korvas128 on September 30, 2016, 09:23:43 AM

Big thanks to the five ~~fraudster's~~ FUDsters that take time to post FUD at every opportunity
I wonder how many of you are using this as a tactic to buy cheap ION

Straight from the Paycoin book again: Crying "FUD" when people show the many red flags and crying "zOMG the fudsters just want to buy cheap paycoins themselves". Hilarious. Spoken like a true GAWtard.

The whole of crypto is awash in a sea of red flags

Where are the FACTS that prove ION is a scam

Just one will do..... it's been 6+ months now so please share

o0o0

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Quote from: korvas128 on September 30, 2016, 05:28:25 PM

Quote from: o0o0 on September 30, 2016, 03:51:54 PM

Quote from: korvas128 on September 30, 2016, 09:23:43 AM

Big thanks to the five ~~fraudster's~~ FUDsters that take time to post FUD at every opportunity

I wonder how many of you are using this as a tactic to buy cheap ION

Who are the five? I think valid questions like I ask would only cement someones thoughts on it if the answers meet their expectations, wouldn't you agree? That is unless asking questions is considered a bad thing and threat to ion's legitimacy?

Come now

fear, uncertainty and doubt. Well of course
fear - because its happened before and 80% of new coins are just trash and scams waiting to happen
uncertainty - no gravity game yet... no actual releases of anything so ionomy team raise this uncertainty
doubt - the questions are aimed to either highlight doubt people should have or squash it

The opposite is what you 3 are doing with ion and that's rainbows, unicorns and ignorance.

Who are the five?

They're whoever you think they are

I think valid questions like I ask would only cement someones thoughts on it if the answers meet their expectations, wouldn't you agree?

Yep

That is unless asking questions is considered a bad thing and threat to ion's legitimacy?

Of course not

fear, uncertainty and doubt. Well of course
fear - because its happened before and 80% of new coins are just trash and scams waiting to happen
uncertainty - no gravity game yet... no actual releases of anything so ionomy team raise this uncertainty
doubt - the questions are aimed to either highlight doubt people should have or squash it

The opposite is what you 3 are doing with ion and that's rainbows, unicorns and ignorance.

Good point although the last comment is absolute rubbish. Give me an example of what I'm doing with ion that's rainbows, unicorns and ignorance.

Ignorance is lack of information or knowledge. The questions raised here are never answered by ionomy and investors such as yourself are happy with this. Basically you are freely being ignorant. Since you don't want this knowledge or information as a reasonable investor would query as to why when asked they are so averse to giving it then one can assume that in this blissful ignorance that ionomy must be a land of rainbows and happiness. Unicorns are the products... people swear they exist and have seen them but they aren't out in place to the general publics view.

btw i'd be quite concerned if the wallet is unstable as hell. I don't run it but from what I hear people are directed to the web wallet. This defeats the purpose of being your own bank and honestly if you can't maintain a stable wallet why don't they just have an access database with static coin numbers as a reward system? $200k plus in usd and the can't pay to get the wallet stable? So what exactly are they using the bounty money for if they aren't actually trying to get stuff completed with those funds?

korvas128

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Quote from: Franz_Huber on September 30, 2016, 04:17:40 PM

Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 04:09:27 PM

Let's try a simple transaction of buying a cup of coffee at a store, how long will the shop owner wait until the transaction is completed and conformed? using Bitcoin, it will takes hours and using IONs it will take minutes...

A bitcoin transaction is broadcasted immediately and visible within seconds - so when selling a cup of coffee, nobody will wait for confirmations, because the risk is so small. You want to wait for confirmations when you sell a car or a house. Not with small payments. By the way, the confirmation of a credit card payment takes days. And vendors accept that risk, too.
Nobody needs ION or any other shitcoin for "faster confirmations". Bitcoin is fast enough already. And it will become even faster with Lightning. You can keep your ION scamcoin.

Bitcoin is fast enough...... for buying a cup of coffee absolutely not.

On day 1 if Bitcoin had the speed of confirmation that coins like ION have today. Do you think BTC adoption would be more or the same as today's level of adoption Huh

?

korvas128

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Quote from: o0o0 on September 30, 2016, 03:51:54 PM

Quote from: korvas128 on September 30, 2016, 09:23:43 AM

Big thanks to the five ~~fraudster's~~ FUDsters that take time to post FUD at every opportunity

I wonder how many of you are using this as a tactic to buy cheap ION

Who are the five? I think valid questions like I ask would only cement someones thoughts on it if the answers meet their expectations, wouldn't you agree? That is unless asking questions is considered a bad thing and threat to ion's legitimacy?

Come now

fear, uncertainty and doubt. Well of course
fear - because its happened before and 80% of new coins are just trash and scams waiting to happen
uncertainty - no gravity game yet... no actual releases of anything so ionomy team raise this uncertainty
doubt - the questions are aimed to either highlight doubt people should have or squash it

The opposite is what you 3 are doing with ion and that's rainbows, unicorns and ignorance.

Who are the five?

They're whoever you think they are

I think valid questions like I ask would only cement someones thoughts on it if the answers meet their expectations, wouldn't you agree?

Yep

That is unless asking questions is considered a bad thing and threat to ion's legitimacy?

Of course not

fear, uncertainty and doubt. Well of course
fear - because its happened before and 80% of new coins are just trash and scams waiting to happen
uncertainty - no gravity game yet... no actual releases of anything so ionomy team raise this uncertainty
doubt - the questions are aimed to either highlight doubt people should have or squash it

The opposite is what you 3 are doing with ion and that's rainbows, unicorns and ignorance.

Good point although the last comment is absolute rubbish. Give me an example of what I'm doing with ion that's rainbows, unicorns and ignorance.

korvas128

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Quote from: clownius on September 30, 2016, 02:55:05 PM

Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 02:19:04 PM

Quote from: fifafiesta3 on September 30, 2016, 01:11:26 AM

Quote from: WildShark on September 29, 2016, 12:36:34 PM

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WildShark is a dev shill account, he is defensive for this scam

I use to be a DEV, but now I'm retired and promote IONs, Masternodes and the use of POS coin throughout the world...

ION transaction time looks like a miracle compared to Bitcoin transaction time

ION has transactions?

I thought you used a database on the ION website to record who owns which tokens because the wallet was a buggy POS and the devs feel no need to change that fact when instead they can keep the vast majority of users inside their walled garden passing ION back and forth on the exchange rather than using a blockchain that needs more time to breathe

Ahhh sarcasm......... some people say the highest form of humour

Franz_Huber

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Quote from: korvas128 on September 30, 2016, 09:23:43 AM

Big thanks to the five ~~fraudster's~~ FUDsters that take time to post FUD at every opportunity
I wonder how many of you are using this as a tactic to buy cheap ION

Straight from the Paycoin book again: Crying "FUD" when people show the many red flags and crying "zOMG the fudsters just want to buy cheap paycoins themselves". Hilarious. Spoken like a true GAWtard.

o0o0

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Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 04:09:27 PM

Quote from: o0o0 on September 30, 2016, 03:56:50 PM

Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 02:19:04 PM

Quote from: fifafiesta3 on September 30, 2016, 01:11:26 AM

Quote from: WildShark on September 29, 2016, 12:36:34 PM

Join the Ionomy today

WildShark is a dev shill account, he is defensive for this scam

I use to be a DEV, but now I'm retired and promote IONs, Masternodes and the use of POS coin throughout the world...

ION transaction time looks like a miracle compared to Bitcoin transaction time

No shit, every coin that isn't bitcoin has a transaction time that looks to be a miracle. Also as a dev there is transaction sent and confirmation. Bitcoin actually sends pretty instantly.... you have to decide yourself if its a trustable transaction based on confirmations so your statements a bit misleading.

Let's try a simple transaction of buying a cup of coffee at a store, how long will the shop owner wait until the transaction is completed and conformed? using Bitcoin, it will takes hours and using IONs it will take minutes...

and the answer is it depends on how many confirmations the coffee shop accepts. Risk of a double spend for a $2 coffee is low so they could take 0 confirmations.

As a coffee shop owner I could require 20,000 (like your masternode) confirmations before I accept... o noes they are still waiting in line.

O and if you count block times etc why say just ion its a miracle as ALL alt coins that I've seen have faster block times than bitcoin.

suchmoon

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Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 04:09:27 PM

Let's try a simple transaction of buying a cup of coffee at a store, how long will the shop owner wait until the transaction is completed and conformed? using Bitcoin, it will takes hours and using IONs it will take minutes...

Have you actually done that? There are coffee shops that take BTC and you don't have to wait hours or even minutes. Check it out, maybe you'll learn something.

On the other hand, you can't even buy a cup of coffee with ION... more irrelevant bullshit from ionomy's most irritating whale. Well done sharkie.

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Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 04:09:27 PM

Let's try a simple transaction of buying a cup of coffee at a store, how long will the shop owner wait until the transaction is completed and conformed? using Bitcoin, it will takes hours and using IONs it will take minutes...

A bitcoin transaction is broadcasted immediately and visible within seconds - so when selling a cup of coffee, nobody will wait for confirmations, because the risk is so small. You want to wait for confirmations when you sell a car or a house. Not with small payments. By the way, the confirmation of a credit card payment takes days. And vendors accept that risk, too.
Nobody needs ION or any other shitcoin for "faster confirmations". Bitcoin is fast enough already. And it will become even faster with Lightning. You can keep your ION scamcoin.

WildShark

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Quote from: o0o0 on September 30, 2016, 03:56:50 PM

Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 02:19:04 PM

Quote from: fifafiesta3 on September 30, 2016, 01:11:26 AM

Quote from: WildShark on September 29, 2016, 12:36:34 PM

Join the Ionomy today

WildShark is a dev shill account, he is defensive for this scam

I use to be a DEV, but now I'm retired and promote IONs, Masternodes and the use of POS coin throughout the world...

ION transaction time looks like a miracle compared to Bitcoin transaction time

No shit, every coin that isn't bitcoin has a transaction time that looks to be a miracle. Also as a dev there is transaction sent and confirmation. Bitcoin actually sends pretty instantly.... you have to decide yourself if its a trustable transaction based on confirmations so your statements a bit misleading.

Let's try a simple transaction of buying a cup of coffee at a store, how long will the shop owner wait until the transaction is completed and conformed? using Bitcoin, it will takes hours and using IONs it will take minutes...

o0o0

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Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 02:19:04 PM

Quote from: fifafiesta3 on September 30, 2016, 01:11:26 AM

Quote from: WildShark on September 29, 2016, 12:36:34 PM

Join the Ionomy today

WildShark is a dev shill account, he is defensive for this scam

I use to be a DEV, but now I'm retired and promote IONs, Masternodes and the use of POS coin throughout the world...

ION transaction time looks like a miracle compared to Bitcoin transaction time

No shit, every coin that isn't bitcoin has a transaction time that looks to be a miracle. Also as a dev there is transaction sent and confirmation. Bitcoin actually sends pretty instantly.... you have to decide yourself if its a trustable transaction based on confirmations so your statements a bit misleading.

What did you used to dev? Maybe you can help them out with gravity it seems to be.... behind

o0o0

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Quote from: korvas128 on September 30, 2016, 09:23:43 AM

Big thanks to the five ~~fraudster's~~ FUDsters that take time to post FUD at every opportunity

I wonder how many of you are using this as a tactic to buy cheap ION

Who are the five? I think valid questions like I ask would only cement someones thoughts on it if the answers meet their expectations, wouldn't you agree? That is unless asking questions is considered a bad thing and threat to ion's legitimacy?

Come now

fear, uncertainty and doubt. Well of course
fear - because its happened before and 80% of new coins are just trash and scams waiting to happen
uncertainty - no gravity game yet... no actual releases of anything so ionomy team raise this uncertainty
doubt - the questions are aimed to either highlight doubt people should have or squash it

The opposite is what you 3 are doing with ion and that's rainbows, unicorns and ignorance.

o0o0

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 30, 2016, 07:15:12 AM

Quote from: o0o0 on September 30, 2016, 01:09:27 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on September 29, 2016, 10:34:26 PM

Quote from: WildShark on September 29, 2016, 10:19:09 PM

Why do say I'm lying? There will be a closed Beta Testing of Gravity and look forward to you giving it a try and feedback the results in your Bitcoin ION FAQ for the benefit of the entire crypto and gaming community...

Let me try to use your style - with crayons, maybe that will work.

As for beta, we'll cross that bridge once it's built. We've been waiting for it for 3 or 4 months now.

Some more questions for you suchmoon from an angle I don't think has been asked.

1. How does ionomy intend to show transparency for electron purchases on app store to show it does go back to the market dollars to ion buybacks. Since its blockchainless and an asset how is it going to be shown that 33% of every dollar goes to the market.

2. What market is the money going back to? Assuming ionomy uses their own market, as a conflict of interest how do they intend to show transparency of received funds. Cryptsy has shown how figures can be fudged... trust us won't cut it.

3. What happens to the bought back ions. How is the team going to show they don't just dump them back to recover the 33% for their personal gain. Are they to burned? Are they to be used for bounties and rewards only? If so and whatever the path how do you intend to show openly this is indeed happening?

Well, the answer for the first 2 is obviously "trust us", but #3 is somewhat "blockchainable". It's also bizarre to have this massive inflation and then pour cash in to buy it back but I digress. Thank you, I'll borrow these for the FAQ.

Np but I disagree its somewhat blockchainable. It'll show as a transfer to the ionomy exchange wallet if you know the address.. this could be anyone sending to an exchange. Once in the exchange it becomes a buy then could become a sell on that bought amount. This has the potential to be a shady method inciting people to think they are doing the right thing whilst doing a Garza and selling back straight away for profit. Since its an ionomy platform thing who then owns those ions? the entire chain of course so its unfair that made btc goes to huey and co's pockets but it likely would.

suchmoon

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Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 02:19:04 PM

Quote from: fifafiesta3 on September 30, 2016, 01:11:26 AM

Quote from: WildShark on September 29, 2016, 12:36:34 PM

Join the Ionomy today

WildShark is a dev shill account, he is defensive for this scam

I use to be a DEV, but now I'm retired and promote IONs, Masternodes and the use of POS coin throughout the world...

ION transaction time looks like a miracle compared to Bitcoin transaction time

Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

Didn't XPY have the same "miracle" though? Does it still count as a miracle if it's done by hundreds of other shitcoins?

WildShark

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Quote from: clownius on September 30, 2016, 02:55:05 PM

Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 02:19:04 PM

Quote from: fifafiesta3 on September 30, 2016, 01:11:26 AM

Quote from: WildShark on September 29, 2016, 12:36:34 PM

Join the Ionomy today

WildShark is a dev shill account, he is defensive for this scam

I use to be a DEV, but now I'm retired and promote IONs, Masternodes and the use of POS coin throughout the world...

ION transaction time looks like a miracle compared to Bitcoin transaction time

ION has transactions?

I thought you used a database on the ION website to record who owns which tokens because the wallet was a buggy POS and the devs feel no need to change that fact when instead they can keep the vast majority of users inside their walled garden passing ION back and forth on the exchange rather than using a blockchain that needs more time to breathe

@clownius What have you been smoking to make that incoherent statement??? I missed your point/proof on why it takes hours to do a Bitcoin transaction and minutes for an ION transaction... A MIRACLE in the making...

You could claim you have never done a ION transaction and haven't seen the miracle in action...

clownius

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Quote from: WildShark on September 30, 2016, 02:19:04 PM

Quote from: fifafiesta3 on September 30, 2016, 01:11:26 AM

Quote from: WildShark on September 29, 2016, 12:36:34 PM

Join the Ionomy today

WildShark is a dev shill account, he is defensive for this scam

I use to be a DEV, but now I'm retired and promote IONs, Masternodes and the use of POS coin throughout the world...

ION transaction time looks like a miracle compared to Bitcoin transaction time

ION has transactions?

I thought you used a database on the ION website to record who owns which tokens because the wallet was a buggy POS and the devs feel no need to change that fact when instead they can keep the vast majority of users inside their walled garden passing ION back and forth on the exchange rather than using a blockchain that needs more time to breathe

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Quote from: fifafiesta3 on September 30, 2016, 01:11:26 AM

Quote from: WildShark on September 29, 2016, 12:36:34 PM

Join the Ionomy today

WildShark is a dev shill account, he is defensive for this scam

I use to be a DEV, but now I'm retired and promote IONs, Masternodes and the use of POS coin throughout the world...

ION transaction time looks like a miracle compared to Bitcoin transaction time

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