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Yes we in the ION community refer to whether your Masternode is "Lucky" for the day when it receives more than average number of rewards for the day...

So which is it then? You said it's variance and it "multiplies", whatever that means. Now you're saying it's not variance? The nodes were down?

correct, none of the factors to support the variance is in my data...

So the underperforming nodes were disconnected for some part of the week? That's the only thing that could be different between the higher-paying and lower-paying nodes.

Technically it's neither A nor B since they A) haven't run away yet, and B) haven't been acting as an honest business. Not sure what your "being" on BCT has to do with anything but if that makes you feel better... I don't care.

What dates did I mess up? I think you're lying about that one.

Straw man argument is what you just did. Trying to bring up some other unrelated bullshit, As and Bs, some hypothetical other businesses etc.


Just to make it abundantly clear - the argument that I'm advancing is that you're lying. Nothing else in this specific instance. And since it's clearly getting off topic you should PM me but if you keep posting this bullshit here I'll keep calling you out on it.

So where have I claimed  that ionomy is a scam? Did you "give up" before you even started? Why do keep claiming that I'm Franz and what dates did I "slip up" on? Was it 12 cents or not?

GetHashing is completely transparent. Ask them for any transparent information and they will hand it right over.

var·i·ance
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noun
noun: variance; plural noun: variances

the fact or quality of being different, divergent, or inconsistent.

your last posting contradicts the definition of variance and I believe you were explaining standard deviation. To sum it in a nut shell, the variance is determined by the algorithm that factors in "connection time" and how many other masternodes are competing for the block reward. Neither of these factors were cited in my data.

The variance should even out over time if it really just luck. How are you OK with such variance over a week?

That's not how variance works. This is supposed to be a random distribution so the longer the interval the closer it should be to the expected value, which is I think ~ 11.5 * 60 * 24 * 7 / number_of_masternodes for the week.

If the variance "multiplies" then it's not random anymore, there is something wrong with that node if it consistently underperforms.

Okay so from what you know today are ION & the team a scam

A). Yes They are a scam
B). No They are not a scam

A) or B)

For whatever reason you've gone down this road of guilty till proven innocent and don't give a shit for the implications of disclosure. I've been on BCT longer than you have and have yet to see a company provide the level of detail your asking for.

If you know of a company that meets your level of disclosure please share as it's much easier for them to follow than to lead.

Concerning Franz I'm just using your criteria of guilty til proven innocent you messed up your dates and slipped up so until you can prove your not Franz i'll treat you and encourage others to do the same

As for your last comment I have no idea what you mean so you'll have to elborate if you want a response

How those that make it worst??? You agree that there can be a daily variance. But you then disagree with a variance when multiplied by 7 days??? It looks like you are very confused by not carefully reading the information I am posting?

Ok, let's start by you showing where I claimed that ionomy is a scam. Let's call it your #1 lie. Next is how you "gave up" before you even started. Then is the whole "you are Franz" bullshit. Then "it's not 12 cents", oops, I mean I can't buy 20k.

As for your straw men and ad hominems - getting boring, there are other logical fallacies you could employ.

sorry don't have the time to post a proper response, my posts were directed to Franz Suchmoon who called me a liar, but a couple of comments

The big big difference is Garza was a thief with intent to steal millions, the ION team aren't....... time will of course tell whose right/wrong. Anyone who thinks there is a 1% chance this is a scam should not make any investment or if you can't resist then temper your commit. At this stage irrelevant of intent this like all crypto is a high risk project so stay within your comfort zone 

1) My red flag would be end of December if the situation is the same now in January this for me would be a cause for concern. I appreciate it's difficult to set timelines when you try to create something from nothing but that kind of delay without a satisfactory explanation would for me not be good

2) No I don't agree. You see on one side you have people that show interest on the other side the ION team that are holding peoples ICO money. if something is released and it's broken, easily exploited or gives away a competitive advantage to richer more resourced competitors, for good or ill today the risk today just isn't worth it. Plus today I would rather the ICO is spent on moving their business plan forward as opposed to paying for someone to do the PR or taking a developer away from their work to stare at forums

3) The reason I picked Supergiant is they are small development team. Whenever someone says companies like Apple, EA, Samsung keep secrets the response is yes but that is because they are big. I can understand why small companies keep their cards close to their chest. Something is released and it's broken or information given gives a competitor an advantage the big company just takes a big on their share price, they learn then recover. Whereas with a small company the damage can be far worse as the pockets aren't as deep to fund a recovery. What company would you say would be a good benchmark I don't know of any that has seen success and show a level of transparency some people are demanding

Did Supergiant solicit customer funds to develop their platform? Did they provide expectations to said customers of 1 game release per month? Let's compare apples to apples here, not some example to further your agenda in validating TeamIONs utter disregard for proper communication.

Forgive me if I am misunderstanding, but that means you earned whale status with XPY. And remember, ION and XPY are not related. So you indeed purchased your ION whale status then. If XPY and ION are not related, you didn't earn ION whale status. If you are adamant that you earned ION whale status, then XPY and ION must indeed be related.

Supergiant is a poor example as from what i can see they didn't solicit funds from the public to make a game. When you self fund you have that option. Any investors always have updates and transparent information. Do you think big companies would invest without info and accept being told give us money but go away if you don't like no news?

The difference here is ionomy took customer funds and said at the start they were being transparent. As of now their definition of transparency matches garzas definition of escrow when he did it himself.

Honestly though you all said the same about paycoin and garza. Its about the vision we don't understand. Why would garza come here to answer questions if he's just shot down.

Serious few questions i'd appreciate you to answer.
1 - How long is too long for ion team to implement their vision? Much like cryptsy etc how long is too long before people should be suspicious of it going anywhere? Answer properly please. Soon or when its done isn't a good answer. Myself? If i invested i would have a reasonable expectation that my ico money would develop the product as i spent in good faith that it was happening. I'd likely expect 3-5 months max for the game etc to be released being such a simple game etc. I'd be weary after that.

2 - Don't you think both sides deserve to have questions answered? All questions in the world aren't asked from an angle where someone can answer and everyone cheers. Team ion did come out saying we aren't xpy we are transparent etc but wouldn't you agree its been anything but for the funds? If not are you able to identify posts or comments from huey that are showing how much of the ico is left and where and who it has been spent on? Investors expected it to be used as was stated. UP until now i see no mention anywhere of dev bounties etc being actually used. $300k isn't a small some of money and something could of been purchased with it now product wise.

Overall it doesn't matter how much bad troll press you think ion is getting it won't affect the project if its legit. Also them coming and answering if its fact based and they can show transparency and prove their actions no bad comments can actually affect it. Microsoft, apple, valve many companies have haters but their products shine and they get bad press. If ion has that weak of a spine and can't actually address questions and criticisms then i honestly think they have poor business practices and sense. I would not be confident they can compete if this is the case.

Sitting in the shadows is only for people with something to hide (this applies when money is involved).

Arrogant as well such a nice character trait..... anyway..... what lies are you talking about you ?

What lies have I posted that have aroused your interest you must have something so please share it with everyone.... oh I know it's because I don't answer your questions I'm part of a scam..... what a joke... what a lame sad inbred reason to accuse something or someone of being a scam !!!!

A small indie developer like Supergiant (they developed a great game called Bastion), ask them what their next game is gonna be about and what their plans are to monetize it.... don't be surprised if they ignore you !!! AT A COMMERCIAL LEVEL TO BE A SUCCESS YOU DON'T DO STUFF WHICH YOU KNOW THE RETURN IS GONNA MINIMAL AND COMMERCIAL DANGERS ARE EVER PRESENT TOO.

If you don't feel conformable then don't invest that's great

Tell everyone of your concerns & fears that's great too

But please don't call me, anyone or anything a lie without facts to backup your views..... then your just being a dick.... a clever dick

that makes it even worse. How can there be that much variance over a week unless something is wrong? if something went wrong, can it be fixed? If nothing is wrong why would someone take the time to make a node when someone else can do the same thing and get so many more ions based on luck?