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Its a fair call to be called deluded


For the past tense you believed gaw based on the things they said that were not true. Currently i believe you are being deluded by ionomy. This is based on your comments of you saying "i think they are going to do this". You do not know and i believe the opposite that they are going to do more than they let on. By this reasoning they have you believing things that are not true hence being deluded.

Its not an attack its a reference based on the definition of the word.

Ionomy shouldnt get any from their own nodes as they should have 0 nodes. If they have more than 0 nodes it means they are using the premine.

First of all I am glad to deal with someone that has an moral.

Now I need to ask you if you understand what I've written because your answers tells me you did not.

I am not joking, my english is not my primary lenguage, please correct me if I may have missuderstood something. You say that Adam is stupid because he got robbed by an obvious scam. Does that mean that everybody is stupid who did not get out with profif? If not then I do not understand you. In case GAW Adam seems to be victim. Do you implicate that every rubbed victim is stupid? Does it also mean that they get what they earned?

To point about assholes, getting one of 10, my friend, your statements do not fit to each other. Adam got rubbed by Garza, thats fact. That means by you that he is stupid and not an asshole, is it correct? If so, why do you write either or? Maybe he is stupid because he got rubbed and an asshole because he tries to rub others. Isn't exactly this what you tried to say?

Later on you say that you do not want to involve with people that are idiots or assholes where I though you do not want to deal with stupid people. Who is then an idiot, Adam? In different states are different definitions, but an idiot was used as the term "idiot" to refer to people having an IQ below 30. What do you reffer to or do you just use it as synonym?


To the point about the plan, sticking as bagholder, .... => point 1. All altcoins are scam => If you invest into scam it has its risk, before going to point 2., 3. ,... you need to be clear about point 1.


@nskendrovic
Franzl gave you one of the best tipps, better buy btc and if you want to invest into any other altcoin, dont throw all your btc for that.

How rude of you all to forget Carmelo Milan, Lawrence David Hughes, Jr. John Tuberosi running BTClend. Carmelo led plenty of xpy bagholders that didn't go for XPY.io into his LNC folding project. We emailed the authorities when we saw them start putting AML approved stickers/pics on their code/white paper  


We told Garza not to do a premine, he promised to think about it. He did the premine anyways.
He controlled "bad press" or dissent through his forum and through legal threats to plenty to ensure the launch.
XPY had bad press prelaunch it just wasn't replicated or reflected upon enough as he built the coin rather quickly.

I look forward to the purple rocket code!
This time will be different!
  

Better get some bitcoins instead.

Assuming you're not trolling: why don't you cut your losses and don't touch this follow-up to the paycoin scam. Why on earth would you "definitely want in" to this mess if you already lost $10k XPY? Don't throw good money after bad trying to get unstuck.

Hey guys. Im trying to find but i guess im missing it.

How do i get/buy atoms and electrons. this coin seems super fun and i want to invest a bit. I burned on xpy although i was 60% scam all the way but my greed took over and i ended up losing 10k USD...so ill be more carefull this time but i deffinitly want in.
If anyone can send a link or explain how to earn ATOM Electron id really be gratefull.

https://github.com/ionomy/ion/tree/59568f804a5fd6d29e9c01dd3ade460d8814d0e3

Those are some ok points. I am not going to try to get in a 1 and out at 10 because of some combination of morals and not wanting to play in a rigged game (the game is rigged in most altcoins because someone who is not me has a boatload of coins to dump whenever they are ready.

If your plan is to get in at 1 and out at 10, knowing all the risks, that isn't stupid, although if you get stuck holding the bag you are stupid. If in the process of trying to do all that, you suck other people into the scam via lies and manipulation, you are an asshole, and I will call that out just as much as the stupidity. I stopped mentioning that here because I didn't have "proof" that Matlack was in on the scam, so I just went with stupid.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. the people involved in GAW as deeply as Matlack are either stupid (they got robbed by an obvious scam) or assholes in on the scam (trying to get in at 1 and out at 10 based on lies and BS). I'm not sure who exactly falls into which group, and I don't care, because I try not to get involved with people that are idiots or assholes. The idiots will cost me money via their stupidity, and the assholes will just rob me. Other people can get into the specifics as to why this is a bad investment because of the staking and the nodes and the games and TOS and whatnot, but I can't get past that point.

Hello, you said you have an bad day today . Lol, childish , correct? However, I'll leave you here for today, my day is great, I would share my luck with you.

Thanks for explanation, I just missunderstood you, I am sorry for this.

Let me define my point:
1. All altcoins are scam
2. All ICO's and most coins mean => FIFO
3. I do not see many of you that threat blockchain as technology, you threat it more as an currency, business, ...
4. If it is business and considering facts 1-3, you will probably invest if you feel an need for this.
5. In most cases you get out with at least 2x profit.
6. Based on previous 5 points, it is about money, nothing else.
7. Was it stupid to invest into GAW and get out with profit, who knows ICO's, he got early out, before $ 10?
8. If you know previous 7 points, is it dumb or clever if you get in at $ 1 and out on $ 10 if it is about money and you have no moral troubles?

My friend, we do not discuss here if somebody is stupid or not, it is question of moral, which is very low currently in crypto, the way how you communicate with many only proves it. If taking it this way, ganza is an genie cause he took so much money of so many people who though they are clever. However, he is an dumb ass and clever people who lost money hopefully learned their lesson as he will his.

I see boki15 aka panda showed up - just a word of warning to everyone tempted to respond: ignore him/her or treat as a small child, there is nothing useful forthcoming from this user other than inane drivel and personal butthurt. You can't say now that I didn't warn you.


What "did it all"? Bad press?

There was a ton of warnings before launch too BTW. Not that it mattered to those who chose to listen to Garza's lullabies instead. It's amazing how more than a year after the shitshow you still don't know a thing about how it all happened and you think you're qualified to say that ION is going to be different. How could you possibly know that if you don't know what was going on with XPY?

I did not say you are stupid. I said that if you think I said your stupid for investing in a stupid person, that's your problem.

I did not invest in GAW. I know that it makes no sense to run a legitimate cloud mining operation that is profitable for the customers, so I knew that GAW was either a scam or a bad investment from the start, and tried to warn people of that. I also knew that Gaw's claim to buy all the coins (or have target or amazon buy) for $20 made no sense. I have been stupid in the past, but I have learned from those mistakes.

Mr Coins is still stupid in the present because he refuses to see how he and Matlack were stupid for falling for Garza's lies, and see how that impacts the ability for this coin/operation to succeed.

What is your definition of stupid? I do not think MrCoins is stupid at all and now you call me stupid. Do you want to say that "stupid" means clever? I am sorry, my english is not that good if I am confused.

Did you invest in gaw? Have you been stupid too?

Nice try. But you see, paycoins were converted to ION, the team that created ION is the team that ran XPY.io, and Adam Matlack was a partner of GAW CTO Joe Mordica. These are the reasons for ION being seen as a sequel to the Paycoin scam, and the fact that premining and electrified stakers resemble the way the Paycoin scam worked doesn't exactly help.
So: No, Sir, this is not "prelaunch bad press". It's bad press about an ongoing scam you can call GAW-Hashlets-Paycoin-Hashstakers-Coinstand-Honorprogram-CPIG-XPY.io-ionomy.

I'm not calling everyone stupid, just Mr Coins and Matlack. Matlack for losing money to GAW, and Mr. coins for refusing to see how that makes matlack stupid. If you infer that you are stupid for investing in a company run by someone I call stupid, that's on you.

Investing in bitcoin may be something only stupid people do, the book is still out on that, but it's obvious that people who bought "digital cloud miners" despite no evidence on any blockchain, or xpy in hopes that Garza would buy them back for $20 for no logical reason, are several degrees more stupid than people investing in bitcoin could ever be. And these are the people running this coin.

I also want to point out that there is no problem with an individual being stupid, some people can't help it, some people choose to be, the problem comes when these stupid people claim to be able to pull something off like this ion system. What are their qualifications? The only qualification I see is being ripped off by GAW, how that makes someone qualified to run a coin/website/game company is the question.

today is 15. May, I see that everybody can buy in until 16. of which time GMT???

I hope also to see wallets that we all want to see. I see no reason why blochain explorer should not be launched now/today if it is ready.

Most questions should reply itself after you go live, hope you will answer questions that will be unanswered if with existance of blockchain. For me, it is interesting if Joe Mordica is involved or not. Why do I ask? Because paybase exchange, xpy echange and ionomy exchange all look identical. Taking in mind that same code is used, did you pay Joe anything or is he anyhow involved here?

I must admit that I do not have an excuse for you if he is an part of ionomy, he should be part of the hearing where ganza is, not participating in another and next, next .... crypto project. He is one of the next who should be jailed after ganza, same for everybody else who was involved in GAW and did not report it to the authorities, as far as I remember, most of them have college degree.

@Phildo
I do not know what other see, I see an discussion where you only say that everybody who participates is stupid and an idiot. At the same time you call and ask these people to come over to explain you something, I do not see them coming, I only see non ion members replying here. They are even asked to go and ask on slack and report it here , for what? To get an "you are stupid" or "you are moron" or ..... as an answer? Isn't it then stupid to call them to come over? But to finaly find out, what is it for? I assume to save innocent people from throwing it away if they are going to scam everbody. How can you save someone if everbody who has no clue only thinks "kindergarden" because your replies do not sound serious. I really would appreciate to get answers to all this questions without an trashtalk, there is plenty time for trashtalk afterwards.

Many are scared to post here on bitcointalk at all because they might be bashed for no reason, maybe there will come time when this changes on bitcointalk, as far as I can see, it only gets worse except suchmoon and co.

@suchmoon: if we let them answer, they will answer, that's the point. I am glad not to see everybody bashing but building up an constructive discussion, not trashtalk. Thanks for that.

Paycoin Did not get badpress till after the launch and his overall Demise. That is what did it all. This is prelaunch bad press. Before it shows it can or can not do anything. So Almost got me their but not quite yet.

HEY he called me a bagholder. LOL. Dude the most XPY i every owned was 10k When someone gave me 10K of xpy for paycoingateway.com.. And i went and sold that 10k for btc when it was $1.30 (If anything i made my money off paycoin.) I ROIed the shit out of paycoin. So i never lost anything. I am not part of the Lawsuite. But you know what i did do. I spent a year trying to help the other people who got Screwed by Garza. And spent a year asking my self why these fools at Bitcointalk wont shut up about something that they proved was a scam. Why are they attacking the people who lost money. Why are they attacking the people who are trying to help the people who lost money. What is the point. And then here i am today Support a Coin that i now officially own 5 ION. And i will support them till the end of days. Cause its not the coin i care about. It the community. A community of 200+ people who talk and figure out solutions and come up with grand idea's (some do and some don't work).

But again Thank you guys. For keep the topic at the top.

There was no link whatsoever between prime controllers and hashstaker PNGs. Hashstakers were "paying out" before prime controllers even started staking, like a month after launch.

I don't know what you're trying to do here but you should probably stop.