Y'know, I think it's a good public service to encourage people to research before they invest. Congrats to the heroes here for being so epically heroic.
Some of the same heroes posted when GAW was a scam and they were absolutely right. I've talked to some people who invested. They say that they didn't take the critics seriously because they seemed so rabid they made themselves seem ridiculous. I hear they could have been more effective by just sticking to the facts.
The doubters could be more effective this time, too. But instead of presenting good factual information or raising questions, the skeptics make attacks that are so personal and vitriolic.
What's funny is there are actually some decent points to consider in what they say, but they undermine their own arguments by their hostility and reasoning by association. For example, identifying Mordica as Matlack. The repeated claim that essentially anyone involved with Paycoin (as a customer, trader, investor, or leader of the scam) are all equally culpable, bad, stupid, naive, and ill-intentioned. That just doesn't follow. Maybe they think the argument is enough to scare off some investors? And maybe it is.
The heroes call anyone who ever invested in GAW/Paycoin "gawtards" (nice). And say that they are either stupid, corrupt, naive, or new to crypto. Well, actually those are different things. There's a big difference between the guy new to crypto (that applied to all of us at one point) and the jerk exploiting those new to crypto (that applies to way too many, in my opinion). Garza by all accounts I've read knew how to manipulate people new to crypto, and even trapped people who were already interested in crypto. He rigged a system that would play on people's self interest so he could make money and run.
There are also a bunch of double binds: no way the ionomy people could possibly win. If ionomy is successful in this ICO, they are stealing money and exporting suckers. If they don't, they are losers who failed because they are stupid. If they are the same people who tried to do anything with Paycoin, then they 1.) shouldn't have been involved with a shitcoin in the first place, 2.) must be criminals, exploiting their customer base, 3.) failed at rescuing the value in XPY (huh? how were they supposed to do that if it was a shitcoin in the first place?), 4.) abandoned their XPY.io customer base, 5.) abandoned XPY, 6.) are stupid to think that anything other than Bitcoin could be a legitimate basis for a business model, 7.) must have a long term plan to screw over their new customer base to cover their losses from their stupid investments in XPY/GAW which their either orchestrated or were too stupid not to be duped by....
I could go on. Maybe I will in another post.
Consider this: Whoever is behind ionomy, they could really just as easily have started another coin without connecting their name or company to Paycoin / XPY. I have to think that was intentional decision. Unless they are as stupid as these caricature bitcointalk whales heroes make them out to be.
None of this is to say it's a legitimate operation. Or that people should invest without due diligence. Or that their business model is plausible. But what's up with the heroes of this community engaging in libel (the written version of slander) to condemn the characters of a group of people by association with one of the worst crypto criminals to date? It's essentially a smear campaign that generates more heat than light.
Another day, another noob account trying the same fallacies. We've heard this one before and it makes about as much sense as stakers and hashlets.
If you ignore a reasonable argument or question because someone else is being loud and impolite then you are not ready to listen to the reasonable argument or question to begin with. This has been going on all throughout Garza's reign (how many Hashtalk users were banned for asking simple questions and how many of the lemmings paid any attention to that?) and is evident in this thread as well. Plenty of reasonable questions without any attacks, what's the result? That's right, trolls are destroying ION again.
Pull your virtual head out of your virtual ass, log in to your real account, and start using those facts the lack of which you're complaining about. Lead by example. Do your homework and share with the class. Explain in full detail what "exporting suckers" means because I'm totally puzzled about that.
