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o0o0 Your so right....... just saying your going to be in a multi billion dollar market is just a sign of intent not success, again I'm not sharing my homework as I ain't not Garza... I ain't no hype train... I ain't no ION salesman Smiley


Its not a case of being an ion salesman. Im asking how you arrived at your conclusion that ion is a good investment. I've shown some figures for potential for abuse for the premine and masternodes. Team ion has not refuted this claim or agreed with it.

I don't think anyone here is wanting you to speak your background knowledge in the hopes of stealing all your profits. Its a simple question as we haven't to this date seen any facts showing its a good investment. Saying you aren't sharing your homework is a bit like mrcoins like there is a select few that are smarter than the collective posting information against it being a good investment. We aren't dense but are honestly interested in how people are seeing potential in it. Please show some of your homework... even a partial amount so others can understand. Unless its just i have a feeling and adam is a good guy.

This doesn't mean you are hyping it means you are showing some validation on why you do it. Just like myself and others posting facts and figures against aren't "trolls" we are showing validation on the against. People mix these terms up.

Personally i don't think anyone has facts and figures that is why they say they aren't sharing.
If ion was a good investment then team ion would be releasing this information to encourage people to buy ion because lets face it more crowd funds means more things they can do right? It works against them if they don't sell premine. Unless... its an insider trading platform for a select few with money to screw everyone else out of it? Is that why people don't want ot release any of their homework? Have you all cheated and looked in the back at the answers first?

Having read through some of the Slack messages for the last few days, I can see that they appear to have very little interest in answering questions. Any attempts to raise most of the issues already raised on this forum were batted off as 'we're too busy to answer' and 'the person who's responsibility it is to answer isn't available to answer right now' (the owner of the Ionomy account on here is apparently suffering from some personal issues at the moment, which presumably prevents any other members of their 'management team' from responding too -- a sad 'team' affliction indeed).

When questioned by a loyal follower on slack about the potential scenario of the ICO not selling out, Matlack reluctantly explained that any remaining ICO coins would be used to incentivise developers for future games. I'm sure that'll work out well for them.

I really get the overbearing impression that despite their claims to be friendly and open and fun and whatnot, they'd really rather that their 'community' remains made up of the same core of people who already largely support what the ION team are doing, who are unsurprisingly most of the people who supported paycoin from the beginning. They've been 'together' for a long time now, and they've formed a very dense clique that's difficult for new people to penetrate.

I still don't think they're scammers; but they are fantastically delusional if they think this project will have a wide appeal if they carry on conducting themselves in this way.
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So with that much study of gods word does god promote deceiving not being transparent and huddling together in small groups to profit over others? Just saying...
For someone thats so for spreading the word they sure stay quiet where it counts particulrarly question time Smiley

Adam should just become an Atheist... i hear its a non-prophet organisation.

Maybe garza can do the spelling so as to save some tax dollars.
legendary
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o0o0 Your so right....... just saying your going to be in a multi billion dollar market is just a sign of intent not success, again I'm not sharing my homework as I ain't not Garza... I ain't no hype train... I ain't no ION salesman Smiley


Its not a case of being an ion salesman. Im asking how you arrived at your conclusion that ion is a good investment. I've shown some figures for potential for abuse for the premine and masternodes. Team ion has not refuted this claim or agreed with it.

I don't think anyone here is wanting you to speak your background knowledge in the hopes of stealing all your profits. Its a simple question as we haven't to this date seen any facts showing its a good investment. Saying you aren't sharing your homework is a bit like mrcoins like there is a select few that are smarter than the collective posting information against it being a good investment. We aren't dense but are honestly interested in how people are seeing potential in it. Please show some of your homework... even a partial amount so others can understand. Unless its just i have a feeling and adam is a good guy.

This doesn't mean you are hyping it means you are showing some validation on why you do it. Just like myself and others posting facts and figures against aren't "trolls" we are showing validation on the against. People mix these terms up.

Personally i don't think anyone has facts and figures that is why they say they aren't sharing.
If ion was a good investment then team ion would be releasing this information to encourage people to buy ion because lets face it more crowd funds means more things they can do right? It works against them if they don't sell premine. Unless... its an insider trading platform for a select few with money to screw everyone else out of it? Is that why people don't want ot release any of their homework? Have you all cheated and looked in the back at the answers first?
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Even the Holy Spirit thinks Matlack is full of shit:

3:21 http://clearpointchurch.org/sermons/called-to-community/

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So has the ION team actually produced anything of value?  "Mobile Gaming" "A bunch of statistics on gaming markets" That's cool, but why would anyone with half a brain buy this coin when it has nothing to do with either?
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CryptoBuds

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Phildo the reason I bother is because Bitcoin is not the end of the crypto story it's just the beginning  Smiley Pandora's box has been opened, evolution has begun.

On a personal level this isn't the only coin I play around with this one I think is a special as it comes with a platform coupled with talented devs that are targeting gaming. When I said this forum was like an angel or devil I meant it. It was an angel with XPY but a devil with DMD. I should have invested in DMD at the beginning but didn't because of all the it's a scam pos



 





I didn't ask why you bothered, I asked you to back up your logic. You said ION is a good idea because gaming is a zillion dollar market.

Crypto is a very big market, and GAW and xpy, with the same group of geniuses you are following now, completely failed.

What makes you think this is different? You don't see proof of scam? But why do you see proof of competence? How can you trust someone who fell for Garza's shit with your money? It makes no sense to me.
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Another day, more ignored questions by the ION team.

Questions have been asked and asked respectfully. The questions that were asked were legitimate concerns every investor should have. The fact that they continue to choose to not answer said questions should give anyone a great idea of the operation they are getting into.

Ionomy: you plan on ever answering questions or are you gonna continue to taint your project with the Garza approach?

They won't answer any questions here. It's doubtful they ever would have. The answers to the questions we have won't give them any money, so there's no point.

They won't answer them anywhere cryptobuds tried in their slack.

Their comments are to the point of and this was said by Huey aka Adam Matlack

Answer our questions because we say so... yeah right.

Shows that he's a mini garza in his transparency and question answering. At best he is a terrible PR personality. Wonder if thats how he is at church.
Person A - How do you know god is real.
Matlack - God is real yeah i show you proof or answer that just because you say so.

It works so well!!!

What i find so amusing and i think a lot of people have missed this.
The religious faith reasoning works for faith based principles. Cryptocurrency is science... its not faith... in a computer 1+1=2. You can't say just have faith or just believe us or we aren't scamming. You have to prove scientifically i.e. with facts your statements.

Matlack is applying a faith church method to a scientific derived technology.

Well, take a look at one of his sermons, here's one: http://clearpointchurch.org/sermons/give-it-all/

Skip to 16:12 to see a snippet about money and finances.


IRONY ALERT!

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If I want no demand answers here is a tactic that works for me but not so much now...

Answer my fucking questions NOW or I will throw everyone of my one of my mother fucking toys out of my pram !!!!

I'm no ION fan boy I just believe in innocent till proven guilty

This is not a criminal court. This attitude is the WORST kind you can have when dealing with investments

So far the only proof I've seen is one of not answering questions... that's just ridiculous 5 weeks yep you have a point but 5 days.........

Phildo the reason I bother is because Bitcoin is not the end of the crypto story it's just the beginning  Smiley Pandora's box has been opened, evolution has begun.

On a personal level this isn't the only coin I play around with this one I think is a special as it comes with a platform coupled with talented devs that are targeting gaming. When I said this forum was like an angel or devil I meant it. It was an angel with XPY but a devil with DMD. I should have invested in DMD at the beginning but didn't because of all the it's a scam posts.

Suchmoon I can't answer the questions your referring too as I'm not part of the Ion team. Up to you if you invest. What I care about is every time someone shouts scam without proof it hurts all of crypto. 

No, it doesn't hurt "all of crypto". It might hurt the one scam if it can't prove it's not a scam.

Besides nobody is really "shouting" scam here, other than some heated arguments (and you called some posters "morons" without proof LOL). The attitude is mostly this: if ionomists can't answer simple questions then the risk of them being dishonest, incompetent, malicious, or otherwise untrustworthy is quite high.

And if you can't answer those basic questions either - it means you didn't do you due diligence.

Your talking about entering a mobile market which will be $33 billion this year not a bullshit number but fact.

Which means absolutely nothing. I work in a $400+ billion/year industry but that doesn't make me qualified to take other people's money.

How about the actual ionomy numbers? How many games are they going to produce? Timeline? Expected number of downloads? Expected amount of spending per player? How did they come up with those numbers? Google up "prospectus" if you need help with what kinds of disclosures should be provided by companies soliciting investments.

Don't forget just working in the $400 billion industry doesn't mean you'll be competitive and even make $1 million. These ion supporters seem to think that because its a $33 billion dollar gaming industry team ion will automatically make money.

Honestly I think that even if I could make a million or two (quite doable with some courage and risk) there is no fucking way I would crowdfund that. My work, my million, if I need a loan I will go to a bank. Yes, old school fiat bank. That's what they're for, giving out money they don't have to people who can't afford it Smiley. Crypto is not.

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CryptoBuds

If I want no demand answers here is a tactic that works for me but not so much now...

Answer my fucking questions NOW or I will throw everyone of my one of my mother fucking toys out of my pram !!!!

I'm no ION fan boy I just believe in innocent till proven guilty

So far the only proof I've seen is one of not answering questions... that's just ridiculous 5 weeks yep you have a point but 5 days.........

Phildo the reason I bother is because Bitcoin is not the end of the crypto story it's just the beginning  Smiley Pandora's box has been opened, evolution has begun.

On a personal level this isn't the only coin I play around with this one I think is a special as it comes with a platform coupled with talented devs that are targeting gaming. When I said this forum was like an angel or devil I meant it. It was an angel with XPY but a devil with DMD. I should have invested in DMD at the beginning but didn't because of all the it's a scam posts.

Suchmoon I can't answer the questions your referring too as I'm not part of the Ion team. Up to you if you invest. What I care about is every time someone shouts scam without proof it hurts all of crypto. 

o0o0 Your so right....... just saying your going to be in a multi billion dollar market is just a sign of intent not success, again I'm not sharing my homework as I ain't not Garza... I ain't no hype train... I ain't no ION salesman Smiley

In the hope that Garza see's this thread I have a message

FUCK OFF AND DIE   





 



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Your talking about entering a mobile market which will be $33 billion this year not a bullshit number but fact.

How big was the market that GAW and xpy.io entered into?

How'd that work out?

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Your talking about entering a mobile market which will be $33 billion this year not a bullshit number but fact.

Which means absolutely nothing. I work in a $400+ billion/year industry but that doesn't make me qualified to take other people's money.

How about the actual ionomy numbers? How many games are they going to produce? Timeline? Expected number of downloads? Expected amount of spending per player? How did they come up with those numbers? Google up "prospectus" if you need help with what kinds of disclosures should be provided by companies soliciting investments.

Don't forget just working in the $400 billion industry doesn't mean you'll be competitive and even make $1 million. These ion supporters seem to think that because its a $33 billion dollar gaming industry team ion will automatically make money.
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I signed up Sep 29 2013... that's  approx 3.5 yrs of living in this forum sometimes with a break but always coming back....  why...... when you believe crypto has a future coming here is like having the devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other.

People that post on this forum

Tell lies
Tell the truth
Talk with their hearts
Talk with their heads
Talk with facts
Talk out of their arse
Are Good
Are Bad
Are polite
Are rude
Are abusive
Are respectful
Are arrogant
Are humble

On top of this Everyone has an agenda. So when I read comments from Franz_Huber

So, you invested in ION, huh? Will it become big? Will it make you rich? Will Team Ionomy develop totally awesome games? And most importantly, have you heard of Bitcoin?

do I respond with

I invested in ION because it will fail.... YOU moron what other reason would anyone invest in something if they didn't think it could be a success. About game development how awesome do you think awesome has to be. Your talking about entering a mobile market which will be $33 billion this year not a bullshit number but fact. Once upon a time to be successful you needed to work with a games publisher or someone like Valve to bring your product to market. I'm not doing your homework, try to join the dots and you'll see times are changing. Have I heard of Bitcoin.... well considering you've only been here just over a year I've known about bitcoin a lot longer than you have  Grin ..... have I heard of bitcoin again moron like a created a profile on some random website the fucked off for 3 years before coming back... duhhh   

or when someone like o0o0 posts


Josh garza gave you a way out too he had a market to sell prime hashlets and other hashlets. You do realise the last people that bought them were left with nothing right? There is no way out for some. You are assuming that if the price tanks you have a profitable way out. Its not till you start losing that you consider a sell. For yourself you'll want to hold while you still believe price is good. The above point is thus moot... its a false good thing. You think its good and the company wants you to think that but in fact its not.


These people left with nothing because Josh probably with the help of others stole their/my money. I just see the Atom auction as a way to get in or out of holding Atoms, profitable exit will be down to when I decide to sell. The Atom auction is a different beast if your interested you should check it out. Dealing with the ION guys for around a year now I know they won't steal my money just like I wouldn't steal theirs... not everyone is wired like Garza

Ion is not a scam
The Ion team are not crooks these guys tried to save XPY whilst crooks ran away.

To those that have stumbled on this post.... Who is Franz_Huber or o0o0 is it Garza, are they both Garza, am I Garza are you Garza.......... TRUST NO ONE kinda what makes the Bitcoin forum a fun place to be  Grin




Getting to know the team and them being nice is no indication of a projects success or if people are scam artists or not. A trait of a scam artist is being likable thats how they gain trust. I haven't seen a scam artist yet that treats everyone like shit from the word go.

So what proof or due dilligence did you do to make you believe? If its just the 33 billion dollar market go check out hyper or digibyte. Both do gaming hyper is pos i think and has been around for a while and gaming involved. It will give you an indication of success. The coin doesn't have as much volume as you expect.

How did team ion prove they were going to have it usable on mobile markets to get around apple, google etcs terms of service? Or is it only going to be the games they have on the site? They state 1 game per month... so in 12 months which is decades in computers you can play a grand total of 12 games with ion.

Can you provide some hard stats and proof from what team ion has provided you to show us your method of thinking and getting into this? Its your chance to also show others that might be wanting to invest with some positive appeal. You can't say they seem genuine and nice... thats not a fact.
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Your talking about entering a mobile market which will be $33 billion this year not a bullshit number but fact.

Which means absolutely nothing. I work in a $400+ billion/year industry but that doesn't make me qualified to take other people's money.

How about the actual ionomy numbers? How many games are they going to produce? Timeline? Expected number of downloads? Expected amount of spending per player? How did they come up with those numbers? Google up "prospectus" if you need help with what kinds of disclosures should be provided by companies soliciting investments.
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I'm sorry so many questions wish I had the time to respond  Smiley

You seem to have time now. How about those questions?
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I signed up Sep 29 2013... that's  approx 3.5 yrs of living in this forum sometimes with a break but always coming back....  why...... when you believe crypto has a future coming here is like having the devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other.

People that post on this forum

Tell lies
Tell the truth
Talk with their hearts
Talk with their heads
Talk with facts
Talk out of their arse
Are Good
Are Bad
Are polite
Are rude
Are abusive
Are respectful
Are arrogant
Are humble

On top of this Everyone has an agenda. So when I read comments from Franz_Huber

So, you invested in ION, huh? Will it become big? Will it make you rich? Will Team Ionomy develop totally awesome games? And most importantly, have you heard of Bitcoin?

do I respond with

I invested in ION because it will fail.... YOU moron what other reason would anyone invest in something if they didn't think it could be a success. About game development how awesome do you think awesome has to be. Your talking about entering a mobile market which will be $33 billion this year not a bullshit number but fact. Once upon a time to be successful you needed to work with a games publisher or someone like Valve to bring your product to market. I'm not doing your homework, try to join the dots and you'll see times are changing. Have I heard of Bitcoin.... well considering you've only been here just over a year I've known about bitcoin a lot longer than you have  Grin ..... have I heard of bitcoin again moron like a created a profile on some random website the fucked off for 3 years before coming back... duhhh   

or when someone like o0o0 posts


Josh garza gave you a way out too he had a market to sell prime hashlets and other hashlets. You do realise the last people that bought them were left with nothing right? There is no way out for some. You are assuming that if the price tanks you have a profitable way out. Its not till you start losing that you consider a sell. For yourself you'll want to hold while you still believe price is good. The above point is thus moot... its a false good thing. You think its good and the company wants you to think that but in fact its not.


These people left with nothing because Josh probably with the help of others stole their/my money. I just see the Atom auction as a way to get in or out of holding Atoms, profitable exit will be down to when I decide to sell. The Atom auction is a different beast if your interested you should check it out. Dealing with the ION guys for around a year now I know they won't steal my money just like I wouldn't steal theirs... not everyone is wired like Garza

Ion is not a scam
The Ion team are not crooks these guys tried to save XPY whilst crooks ran away.

To those that have stumbled on this post.... Who is Franz_Huber or o0o0 is it Garza, are they both Garza, am I Garza are you Garza.......... TRUST NO ONE kinda what makes the Bitcoin forum a fun place to be  Grin


You can reload the ION weapon anytime with IONs purchased from Ionomy.com using the weapon's built-in WiFi or your favorite browser. Stock up on some IONs, Atoms and Electron storage today for your games, weapons and master nodes...
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Have I heard of Bitcoin.... well considering you've only been here just over a year I've known about bitcoin a lot longer than you have  
So if you heard about Bitcoin already, then why do you even bother with unnecessary shitcoin scams like Paycoin and ION?

Ion is not a scam
I disagree.
legendary
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I love how "being nice" all of a sudden became a sign of legitimacy in crypto. Maybe this really is a revolutionary, life changing coin.

That's why these people will consistently get robbed.

they would rather deal with the nice guy spouting bullshit and robbing you instead of the asshole calling out the robber.

I still don't understand how the people falling for this shit haven't run out of money to give away.
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