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I love how "being nice" all of a sudden became a sign of legitimacy in crypto. Maybe this really is a revolutionary, life changing coin.

If ION is not a scam, which you have posted repeatedly with no proof, and the "team" is a bunch of "saviors", why won't they come to THE THREAD THEY STARTED and answer the questions???

I'm sick an tired of questions being asked them some ION fan comes here and tells us the the "team" is nice and awesome and helpful. Fucking great. Where are the fucking hard number and answers to questions??

Until they man up and treat this project like a real project and come HERE and answer questions, we have no other choice but to label it as a scam.  The "team" being "nice" doesn't qualify as proof that this isn't a scam or a money grab.

So....can mr Ionomy or some other official team member come to this thread, the one you all started, and answer questions? Or at least they can come on here and admit that they don't know the answers to the questions or they are afraid to answer them. The way they are treating this thread is more than proof of the way the project will go...right down the drain.

Man up and answer the questions in YOUR thread.

Questions, I'll ask for the 5th day in a row:

What is being done with the bounty coins and what not? Is the address going to be posted?

How does "electrifying" the stakers work? Where does that extra staking power all of a sudden come from? It looks like you are going to keep the bounty coins in a Masternode and profit from the premine, just like Garza and XPY.

I look forward to my questions being ignored again. Awesome project guys...XPY 2.0!!

I signed up Sep 29 2013... that's  approx 3.5 yrs of living in this forum sometimes with a break but always coming back....  why...... when you believe crypto has a future coming here is like having the devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other.

People that post on this forum

Tell lies
Tell the truth
Talk with their hearts
Talk with their heads
Talk with facts
Talk out of their arse
Are Good
Are Bad
Are polite
Are rude
Are abusive
Are respectful
Are arrogant
Are humble

On top of this Everyone has an agenda. So when I read comments from Franz_Huber

So, you invested in ION, huh? Will it become big? Will it make you rich? Will Team Ionomy develop totally awesome games? And most importantly, have you heard of Bitcoin?

do I respond with

I invested in ION because it will fail.... YOU moron what other reason would anyone invest in something if they didn't think it could be a success. About game development how awesome do you think awesome has to be. Your talking about entering a mobile market which will be $33 billion this year not a bullshit number but fact. Once upon a time to be successful you needed to work with a games publisher or someone like Valve to bring your product to market. I'm not doing your homework, try to join the dots and you'll see times are changing. Have I heard of Bitcoin.... well considering you've only been here just over a year I've known about bitcoin a lot longer than you have  ..... have I heard of bitcoin again moron like a created a profile on some random website the fucked off for 3 years before coming back... duhhh   

or when someone like o0o0 posts


Josh garza gave you a way out too he had a market to sell prime hashlets and other hashlets. You do realise the last people that bought them were left with nothing right? There is no way out for some. You are assuming that if the price tanks you have a profitable way out. Its not till you start losing that you consider a sell. For yourself you'll want to hold while you still believe price is good. The above point is thus moot... its a false good thing. You think its good and the company wants you to think that but in fact its not.

These people left with nothing because Josh probably with the help of others stole their/my money. I just see the Atom auction as a way to get in or out of holding Atoms, profitable exit will be down to when I decide to sell. The Atom auction is a different beast if your interested you should check it out. Dealing with the ION guys for around a year now I know they won't steal my money just like I wouldn't steal theirs... not everyone is wired like Garza

Ion is not a scam
The Ion team are not crooks these guys tried to save XPY whilst crooks ran away.

To those that have stumbled on this post.... Who is Franz_Huber or o0o0 is it Garza, are they both Garza, am I Garza are you Garza.......... TRUST NO ONE kinda what makes the Bitcoin forum a fun place to be 

I hope there will be a Wii version of "World of Hash"!

I knew it. This was a scam from the start. They took your btc and ran!

It won't make him rich as nobody in their right minds would sell their ion. Not even team xpy. They will stockpile and make more so they can spend it in third rate c class games. Because thats what people want they don't ever want to convert to USD, AUD etc or BTC. That would just be silly and defeat the purpose of making a new coin wouldn't it?

They won't answer them anywhere cryptobuds tried in their slack.

Their comments are to the point of and this was said by Huey aka Adam Matlack

Answer our questions because we say so... yeah right.

Shows that he's a mini garza in his transparency and question answering. At best he is a terrible PR personality. Wonder if thats how he is at church.
Person A - How do you know god is real.
Matlack - God is real yeah i show you proof or answer that just because you say so.

It works so well!!!

What i find so amusing and i think a lot of people have missed this.
The religious faith reasoning works for faith based principles. Cryptocurrency is science... its not faith... in a computer 1+1=2. You can't say just have faith or just believe us or we aren't scamming. You have to prove scientifically i.e. with facts your statements.

Matlack is applying a faith church method to a scientific derived technology.

So, you invested in ION, huh? Will it become big? Will it make you rich? Will Team Ionomy develop totally awesome games? And most importantly, have you heard of Bitcoin?

Josh garza gave you a way out too he had a market to sell prime hashlets and other hashlets. You do realise the last people that bought them were left with nothing right? There is no way out for some. You are assuming that if the price tanks you have a profitable way out. Its not till you start losing that you consider a sell. For yourself you'll want to hold while you still believe price is good. The above point is thus moot... its a false good thing. You think its good and the company wants you to think that but in fact its not.

They won't answer any questions here. It's doubtful they ever would have. The answers to the questions we have won't give them any money, so there's no point.

Another day, more ignored questions by the ION team.

Questions have been asked and asked respectfully. The questions that were asked were legitimate concerns every investor should have. The fact that they continue to choose to not answer said questions should give anyone a great idea of the operation they are getting into.

Ionomy: you plan on ever answering questions or are you gonna continue to taint your project with the Garza approach?

Very goog point btw, ion is even not born, so I'll assume it's not dead. About crooks, I am unsure who of their team is still an bad fruit, they trust/ed Allen, they trust/ed Joe, .... they trusted every crook until now, it does not make them to crooks but if they dont hold on their responsibility and fail again, it does, especially after rejecting anything that comes from bitcointalk just because years ago noobs felt attacked when somebody told them that they are dumb to enter, they went to hashtalk because people there are so nice, social and respectfull to each other , I would be too for $ 20Mio, hehe, but this is another story if this money comes from my pockets. Currently only the same continues, they ignore bitcointalk and they should not ignore this publicity as it harms them if they are not crooks and if they are creating an another scam, then their alarms should ring now and they should come over and give answer to any question that matters.

It's called having a job mate dunno if you know what that is ....

So is ION dead or crooks? They certainly are not quick; well perhaps quick to dodge questions.

Suchmoon

In response

Either you missed the point of my question about the debit card or you're deliberately misleading You stated:

XPY.io & Adam are different...... I've been following them for a year now. In that time they've had plenty of opportunity to say one thing but do another.... they
haven't.

I guess the point I'm making is if I didn't like the direction the platform was heading in I had an exit path for my Bits. I bought most of my bits sub $2.00. Today if I auctioned them off I could sell them easy for $2.00+so walking away at a profit.They setup a bits auction which as given me an exit path should I wish to take it..... this is exactly the kind of thing a scam company would do..... joke

ION Team          charge a fee
Me                   I get to sell my Atoms
buyer               Gets to buy Atoms at whatever the market rate is

Is this good or bad thing ?


The debit card was one of the things promised for XPY.io. So how does it square with saying one thing and doing another? 

I understand why they've done what they've done. I don't have a problem with the change in direction. For me 3 types of company in Crypto exist today. The quick, the dead, the crooks. A year ago a debit card was a big deal now not so much especially when you compare it to targeting the gaming market

Also when the rebels took over XPY back in March 2015 was it known back then that there are evil XPY developers working against the good guys or did it become known only recently?

In other words how do you know that a year from now there won't be a similar situation with ION? Who are ION developers? Certainly not Matlack, can he even C++?

That's before we even get into the economics of the whole thing. I tried to dig up anything resembling revenue projections and there's nothing. Do you have anything?
 
I'm sorry so many questions wish I had the time to respond 

Uhhh, uhhh, uhh => professional??? Who has read this and other thread, please tell me again why they are/did it professional .

Credit Card , well, I do remember how it was choosen. By an community that still cant come over to read, they believed CC will raise their value, they sticked to the original plan of JG (where everybody can release it, JG did not manage to do it with so many funds .... ), releasing CC. It was the community that said they want. Adam was the one who took this decision, during this time I talked to him and told him how bad this idea was and he cares about community.

Community is here the main word (an evil word), how professional is it? This is why they actually do fail all the time, they can't even manage somebody who will reply these questions from this thread.

Until their community learns to read and think, there will be always people who rather believe into "believing" in sucess than to count, because they are not investors, just simple people "who dont care about their lossses".

First professional step would be to do it right and transparent especially because of the past.

There is also some other point, xpy.io, as well as other platforms look pretty the same way paybase did what makes an conclusion that GAW's dev's code is still used and because of his bad image they will never state it public, but yes, this is my question, who is sure that there is no Mordica involvement in IoN ?. This fact should let you rethink your statement about professionalsm, especially, how professional is it to keep so many things that an company shouldn't?

The last question would be about their team, how professional is their team exactly?

I think its wrong to push something by saying that they are honest, lets better say they are not crooks fro beginn but for that they need to prove it. Transparency, would also not be an key for success if everything else is not and this thread should probably be all about transparency and not and talk who is pro and who is not.

You summed up all the important points in one post saving the rest of us from having to read through the previous 37 pages of crap.

Correct its widely known that investors of xpy, josh garza, ion and all team members think poorly of the people on bitcointalk. They refer to the environment as toxic, full of fudders and people talking bullshit that know nothing. So why would you post here as an announcement and no where else?

Thats easy to answer... its because this is the hub of where investors and money comes from. The aim is a presence to divert people and targets to their walled garden where they can brainwash them and provide a haven where only good about ion is talked about.. There is no conversation of the chance of failure only what WILL happen with no regard to failures.

The aim is coerce people to where they can control it. They only post here for advertising to get potential investors.

If they lived by their morales and thoughts they wouldn't post in areas they thought were a cesspool. Thats the real reason.

Honestly Adam Matlack aka Huey on their area is too cowardly to actually come here and answer questions and debate it. He can sit in ionomy slack chat and make any comment he want on what i or others say and be given kudos by his followers. It takes real courage and conviction for the project you support to face the actual questions and be a man.

The fact they hide in their garden that is controlled is proof alone that they aren't to be trusted on their transparency and actual supposed good intentions. I'd like to see him prove us all wrong but i seriously doubt he will. Only when he loses supporters and desperation sinks in will he show his face ... likely under a new forum handle.

Josh garza released paybase, and that amazon integration platform though remember. That functioned fot a while until people here reported to amazon that it was against their TOS.

Adam Matlack and ionomy actually haven't delivered. They are claiming that ion will be in mobile games on ios and android market yet those markets use only their instore purchase. Adam and the others haven't addressed the questions of how they are going to get around this and honor this statement yet.

There is also no available wallet yet so there is no delivery there yet.

There is also no transparency with them stating on the record they aren't like josh garza and are an open book so no delivery there yet.

The ionomy handle stated they would provide business registration details but none of that yet so lack of delivery there.

The ionomy team hasn't answered many of the questions that cryptobud and others posted in the slack channel so there is no delivery there yet.

I'm not trying to be a fudder but im trying to show you they really haven't delivered. Ionomy site is basically at present a cart system that allowed you to do purchases. One can do this with wordpress/bootstrap and some themes and plugins. Honestly nothing is delivered as of yet so i would hold your thought of saying they deliver.

The transparency or rather lack of and their refusal to answer questions that which if done would silence the people here is reason for you and others to seriously question their investment.

You mention that this forum helped you avoid garza... i would strongly recommend you take your past experience on this and question the ion team in the same way. If this forum helped you in the past it would be prudent to question the current team as people here are questioning them again.

History repeats.... learn.

Either you missed the point of my question about the debit card or you're deliberately misleading You stated:


The debit card was one of the things promised for XPY.io. So how does it square with saying one thing and doing another?

Also when the rebels took over XPY back in March 2015 was it known back then that there are evil XPY developers working against the good guys or did it become known only recently?

In other words how do you know that a year from now there won't be a similar situation with ION? Who are ION developers? Certainly not Matlack, can he even C++?

That's before we even get into the economics of the whole thing. I tried to dig up anything resembling revenue projections and there's nothing. Do you have anything?