Topic: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! - page 457. (Read 473154 times)

because there was a scam does not mean everything is a scam.

Man, I sure can feel the excitement bullshit in the air.

this is the interesting part. they did not create xpy so that do not have responsibility and control for its development. they did try to do something but with crap xpy it was a doomed idea and probably they leaned a lot of experience from this.

they are the creators of ion project and will be fully responsible for parts of its development.

do i think ion is created to scam people ? no i do not.
do i trust the ion team ? not much more than any other altcoin launch.
do i think ion plan will be huge success ? unlikely, not many altcoins succeed
do i think they will try their best ? based on there past performance i do think so
is it possible to make money with ion? yes. trading, pump or other means could happen
is it risky ? of course it is

what else can be said is just made up or fantasized according to your agenda.

Nope, same thing happened on Hashtalk. Greedy, desperate, and complacent people aren't going to complain for a chance to make free money.

Because we've seen it before and already dealt with Garza and Carmello (BTClend).

They're waiting for JG to be prosecuted. There's a gawsuit compiled from the people scammed by JG waiting in parallel.

Same revert. We've seen it, lived it, and don't want to play again.

BCT isn't the only place that thinks this either - https://forum.gethashing.com/t/ionomy-and-ion/6278

Someone please post this to slack:

https://archive.is/KC38B

It's a guide on how to deal with those unruly non-customers who ask inconvenient questions. Written by one of the luminaries of crypto industry.

Here is one quote they can definitely make use of:

Why would they need to run off if there are people still giving them money voluntarily? (actual money, as in "Bitcoin")

It would be meaningless to steal XPY or ION deposits, they're worthless if the main devs/supporters run off.

You're so focused on the blatant "run off with the coins" fraud aspect of it that you're forgetting XPY lost 95%+ of its value while the "team" was trying to rescue it. How's that for performance?

I'm going to ask again, because you seem to be either dodging or completely missing this key point:

They came here asking for money from people, claiming to be a company registered in Singapore.

They lied about this.

What part of soliciting funds from the public based on a lie seems trustworthy, in your eyes?

I am now dumber for having read that.

Is that like truthiness?

if you are not a billionaire then you cannot give me advice to become what you are not.

Quote highlighted above was exactly Garza's end game with paycoin. Make it seem like he was just a colossal failure as a businessman but not a scammer.

i have answered this many times about my opinon of trustness.

unless you are a team member, how can you (or anyone) know 100 per cent?

i have no reason to trust or untrust ion team, but i lean on the trust side because of there performance in the last year.

they have not run off with anyones bitcoins for a year and all those people who have invested in this team over this year all seem to be happy, not claiming fraud or asking for their bitcoins back. so there are more reasons to trust than there are reasons to not trust.

Are you aware of the expression "throwing good money after bad"? This Ion business is the very embodiment of that principle.

Ps. If your goal is to be a billionaire and you are doing it by investing in companies like ION, I may I kindly suggest that you do not quit your day job?

ION is trustworthy cause he feels they are honest. I've asked him 3 times what caused him to come to that conclusion only to be greeted with this exact response or some form of it.

I have yet to hear a valid response to why this team should be trusted. The best I have heard so far has been because the are "nice".

"THIEF" it's spelled "THIEF" you retard.

This has to be one of the highest densities of logical fallacies per square pixel, not to mention sounding like Garza in his heyday.

What does ANY of that have to do with ionomy being trustworthy?

why is it that only non-investors are complaining?

if this was a scam, surely people who invested would be complaining?

why is only people who did not invest a cent making such scam claims of theives, scam and fraud?

where are all the people who lost their bitcoins - where are their complaint? i cannot find a single one.

in my opinion from what i can see no one has been scammed nor does anyone think they have been scammed.

only these same accounts crying scam, fraud - none of which who invested a single cent.

It's been over a year and Garza just got another 6 month extension.  The wheels of justice turn slowly but relentlessly.


They came here, with their vague whitepaper, promising a new platform on a novel vertical in an otherwise saturated market.

This would have been interesting, to myself at least, to watch, if not get involved.  They came here soliciting funds from the crypto community and claimed that IONOMY PTE was a company registered in Singapore, an attempt to provide a sense of legitimacy to their operation.  After much stalling it transpired that there was no company registered in Singapore.

So that was a lie.  

Don't try and dodge that point, please, it's undeniable.  It happened.  All the evidence is in this thread, among the first several pages.


Mostly you'll find it's questions being asked, and ignored.  People are then inferring what they can from what information is available.  

All of this could have been avoided if they hadn't:

a) been caught out in an immediate lie
b) helped people by answering other questions.


Just in case you missed it the first time I said it:

They came here soliciting funds, claiming, to add an air of legitimacy, that IONOMY PTE was a company, registered in Singapore.

They lied about that.

That's useful info.

Of course, it could simply be that they are ignorant of the law, it could be that the person who said it was a registered company knows nothing about the legal status of the company and therefore was simply mistaken, but given they posted here under the ionomy handle, I would be surprised to discover that it was true.

In fact, instead of simply switching to the slack channel, conversing with their team and getting the correct info regarding the legal status of the non existent company, then coming back and correcting their mistake, they disappeared and dragged out giving people a response, which, if I remember correctly eventually came from another paycoiner.

*edit* btw, am I one of "the 6", or have I got to try harder?

See, you're wrong. It's just the effort that counts.

I know it is impossible to defy gravity while on earth but call me a genius for sticking with it and trying anyway.

There was no reason to try anything with XPY at all. Anybody who wasn't blinded by greed could have told (and many did) them a year ago that XPY and projects based on it will fail.

So no, it's not strength. Stupidity. Could be fraud too if you consider all the fiddling with prime controllers and how much XPY was generated and dumped during that year. And then exchanged to pre-mined IONs.