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sr. member
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I'm looking for reason why #1 on rich list gone? He had around 200k (20%).
I will watch what is going on.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people haven't taken at least a little of their profits out.


Little? 100-200k keycoins is a little?
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
I'm looking for reason why #1 on rich list gone? He had around 200k (20%).
I will watch what is going on.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people haven't taken at least a little of their profits out.
sr. member
Activity: 295
Merit: 250
I'm looking for reason why #1 on rich list gone? He had around 200k (20%).
I will watch what is going on.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).


I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.



You tried to reproduce steps in this recipe?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Where (at which step) did you get different result?

Can you explain what do you mean by "transactions being linked"? There is probably no chain of transactions from the sender wallet to the recipient's wallet. That is the purpose of the mixer (if it is not broken). However, that doesn't mean that the recipient can't determine sender's addresses without having access to his wallet.



Did you try it? If not then you should stop writing in the thread RIGHT NOW, go to your commodore and try it yourself.  Stop looking for ppl to do your work for you. There have been about 5 to 6 ppl that have tried this and already said it does not work, including myself.  Are you really that diluted?
full member
Activity: 140
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If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).




Do you wear a tinfoil hat too?
newbie
Activity: 56
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So after all that, you're basically saying that in order for this to work, people need to know their own wallet addresses to prove that the coins came from their wallet? Well no shit.  Isn't that the whole point of anon? Only the person sending should know which address the coins came from.


You didn't understand correctly. People who want to "prove" to themselves that this method of deanonymization works will have to know their own wallet addresses.

The receiver of the coins doesn't have to know wallet addresses of the sender because he can use this program to find them.
sr. member
Activity: 391
Merit: 250
The problem is that it is really hard to prove to the third parties that someone doesn't own some addresses. But people can easily prove this to themselves because they have list of all their addresses (if they show this list to the third party it can't be proved easily that the list is (or isn't) complete).

So after all that, you're basically saying that in order for this to work, people need to know their own wallet addresses to prove that the coins came from their wallet? Well no shit.  Isn't that the whole point of anon? Only the person sending should know which address the coins came from.

Can't believe we keep feeding this troll (I'm guilty of this as well).  He's definitely persistent.
sr. member
Activity: 295
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sr. member
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Merit: 250

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

blah blah blah




More blah blah blah


hopefully this guy has accumulated enough keycoin soon that he will just go away. Like roaches these trolls.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

I can give you address that this program returns for given block height and amount.

Then you can check in the blockchain explorer if your wallet sent coins to this address. This is the logic behind this program.

However, four things can happen here:
a) you find that your wallet really sent coins to this mixer address - this case confirms that the deanonymization procedure works,
b) program doesn't work and it returns the wrong address - but you won't be able to prove publicly that you don't own the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to this (wrong) mixer address (returned by program),
c) program works and returns the right address but you deny that your wallet has the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to mixer address (returned by program).
d) program returns no address - in this it will probably have to be modified (search space has to be enlarged for example).




sooo in any of your scenarios you win? ignore activated

Nobody wins. People must try it and see if this deanonymization process works in their cases or not.

The problem is that it is really hard to prove to the third parties that someone doesn't own some addresses. But people can easily prove this to themselves because they have list of all their addresses (if they show this list to the third party it can't be proved easily that the list is (or isn't) complete).




member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

I can give you address that this program returns for given block height and amount.

Then you can check in the blockchain explorer if your wallet sent coins to this address. This is the logic behind this program.

However, four things can happen here:
a) you find that your wallet really sent coins to this mixer address - this case confirms that the deanonymization procedure works,
b) program doesn't work and it returns the wrong address - but you won't be able to prove publicly that you don't own the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to this (wrong) mixer address (returned by program),
c) program works and returns the right address but you deny that your wallet has the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to mixer address (returned by program).
d) program returns no address - in this it will probably have to be modified (search space has to be enlarged for example).


sooo in any of your scenarios you win? ignore activated

You beat me to it Hel.
It really doesn't matter that it can be proved false, he is still going to harp on at it like the missing gospel from the bible.
Hel
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 10

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

I can give you address that this program returns for given block height and amount.

Then you can check in the blockchain explorer if your wallet sent coins to this address. This is the logic behind this program.

However, four things can happen here:
a) you find that your wallet really sent coins to this mixer address - this case confirms that the deanonymization procedure works,
b) program doesn't work and it returns the wrong address - but you won't be able to prove publicly that you don't own the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to this (wrong) mixer address (returned by program),
c) program works and returns the right address but you deny that your wallet has the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to mixer address (returned by program).
d) program returns no address - in this it will probably have to be modified (search space has to be enlarged for example).




sooo in any of your scenarios you win? ignore activated
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

I can give you address that this program returns for given block height and amount.

Then you can check in the blockchain explorer if your wallet sent coins to this address. This is the logic behind this program.

However, four things can happen here:
a) you find that your wallet really sent coins to this mixer address - this case confirms that the deanonymization procedure works,
b) program doesn't work and it returns the wrong address - but you won't be able to prove publicly that you don't own the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to this (wrong) mixer address (returned by program),
c) program works and returns the right address but you deny that your wallet has the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to mixer address (returned by program).
d) program returns no address - in this it will probably have to be modified (search space has to be enlarged for example).




But you can quickly check if this program (probably) works. Do the following:
a) when you send coins anonymously you can see several transactions in your wallet,
b) all transactions will send coins to one address (this address should be returned by the program),
c) sum the amounts of the coins that were sent to this address,
d) the sum should be equal to the amount of coins received + some transaction fees,
e) check the blockchain (near the block that included these transactions) and check if there exist any other address that received the same amount of coins (coins received by recipient + some transaction fees). You probably won't find it. This is how this program finds the mixer address.

newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0

Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?

I can give you address that this program returns for given block height and amount.

Then you can check in the blockchain explorer if your wallet sent coins to this address. This is the logic behind this program.

However, four things can happen here:
a) you find that your wallet really sent coins to this mixer address - this case confirms that the deanonymization procedure works,
b) program doesn't work and it returns the wrong address - but you won't be able to prove publicly that you don't own the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to this (wrong) mixer address (returned by program),
c) program works and returns the right address but you deny that your wallet has the private keys of the addresses that sent coins to mixer address (returned by program).
d) program returns no address - in this case it will probably have to be modified (search space has to be enlarged for example).


member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).


I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.



You tried to reproduce steps in this recipe?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Where (at which step) did you get different result?

Can you explain what do you mean by "transactions being linked"? There is probably no chain of transactions from the sender wallet to the recipient's wallet. That is the purpose of the mixer (if it is not broken). However, that doesn't mean that the recipient can't determine sender's addresses without having access to his wallet.


Trying to match transactions back to the originators wallet address.

Would you like me to give you a block height for you to test and tell me the originating wallet?
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).


I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.



You tried to reproduce steps in this recipe?

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Where (at which step) did you get different result?

Can you explain what do you mean by "transactions being linked"? There is probably no chain of transactions from the sender wallet to the recipient's wallet. That is the purpose of the mixer (if it is not broken). However, that doesn't mean that the recipient can't determine sender's addresses without having access to his wallet.


member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10

If youre NOT capable of showing that it doesnt work then your point is just as useles.  All you do is fud.  If you cant prove or disprove something yourself dont look for croonies to do it for you.  Obviously youre not intelligent enough to do it yourself.  You couldnt even figure out how to get on IRC.

So please explain what kind of proof that the anonymity doesn't work can someone provide when you don't have access to source code.

You have a program that deanonymizes anonymous transactions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c6pax/program_that_deanonymizes_anonymous_keycoin/

and there is also a "recipe" how the transactions can be deanonymized:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2c9obo/example_of_how_keycoin_transaction_can_be/

Anybody can try it.

About IRC: Did you manage to configure your system to access IRC without compromising your identity in the first try? FYI, many IRC servers block access from IP addresses that belong to anonymizing proxies (tor etc.).


I've tried it, doesn't do anything, can't find any transactions being linked.
I've read all the replies to the post and again, no one else can get this to work.
I've followed his steps to the letter and nothing.
The only people saying this works is you and the original poster.

legendary
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Patience is the key. Haa. See what I did there? Key?Get it? I'll  get me coat
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ARRGGggh........ always catch in wrong price, bought too high again Sad

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ARRGGggh........ always catch in wrong price, bought too high again Sad
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