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donator
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Having pool options I guess could be necessary, using SolidCoin's drop down as an example, I would not include the names of any specific pools at all and rather just link to a landing page set up to pull recent pool info and activity.

If we want to go the route of a dropdown for pool selection, I was thinking along the lines of defining each pool in a separate pool-[name].conf file and have the client read all those files and populate the pool selection. This way, pools can release their .conf file that users can download. Maybe that's overkill... not sure yet.
donator
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The next thing I'd like to add to the Litecoin client is the ability to mine at a pool. Matoking built a nice GUI on top of minerd. I will look into incorporating this into the client. See: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.587882

Sounds like a great idea.  Would you be able to include an easy way for people to switch between different flavours of minerd optimized for different CPUs ( like http://www.wuala.com/jbw9/pub/Bitcoin/Tenebrix/miner/win/ ),  maybe something like the way guiminer for Bitcoin enables this (doesn't need to be tabs for different versions of minerd, I guess it could be a drop-down selection or something)?

Does that mean you want the client bundled with like 10 different versions of minerd?
With Matoking's GUI, you include your own minerd binary and it will use that.
legendary
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What's your hash rate?

You don't make progress when mining, you have the same chance of generating a block for every hash you generate.

Hash is approx. 2x3000khash.
I understand that with probability it's not accumulative. But the chances of not getting anything after a couple of days seems a bit much? I just want to be sure everything's setup ok

To the guy who compiled on linux: congrats, I had no joy on that... do we trust you for a binary now?
Not quite Smiley
The total network hash rate is approx 5000khash/sec at the moment.

Anyway, the difficulty has gone up again it's now 0.22023019

So with 1kh/s it would take on average 0.22023019 * 2^32 / 1000 seconds
or approximately 262.75hours per block (almost 11 days)

Divide that by your hash rate to get an idea of your single block expected find time if you found 1,000,000 blocks Smiley
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What's your hash rate?

You don't make progress when mining, you have the same chance of generating a block for every hash you generate.
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Hash is approx. 2x3000khash.
I understand that with probability it's not accumulative. But the chances of not getting anything after a couple of days seems a bit much? I just want to be sure everything's setup ok

To the guy who compiled on linux: congrats, I had no joy on that... do we trust you for a binary now?
donator
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litecoin.org has now been moved to be hosted on github.com
litecoin.info will soon redirect to the new wiki at https://github.com/coblee/litecoin/wiki
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I tried to compile the latest litecoind (ver. 50001) in a new machine (Ubuntu 11.04), I transferred my wallet.dat from my current machine, ran litecoind -rescan but my balance appears to be "0.00".

Have I missed something Huh
Did you let it download the blockchain?

Yes, I let it download the blockchain first, stopped the daemon, copied the wallet.dat and restarted the daemon with the -rescan option.
Try removing the blockchain with the new wallet intact and let it redownload. If it successfully launches without errors, the chances of your private keys getting lost are close to none.
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I tried to compile the latest litecoind (ver. 50001) in a new machine (Ubuntu 11.04), I transferred my wallet.dat from my current machine, ran litecoind -rescan but my balance appears to be "0.00".

Have I missed something Huh
Did you let it download the blockchain?

Yes, I let it download the blockchain first, stopped the daemon, copied the wallet.dat and restarted the daemon with the -rescan option.
hero member
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I tried to compile the latest litecoind (ver. 50001) in a new machine (Ubuntu 11.04), I transferred my wallet.dat from my current machine, ran litecoind -rescan but my balance appears to be "0.00".

Have I missed something Huh
Did you let it download the blockchain?
sr. member
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Third score
I tried to compile the latest litecoind (ver. 50001) in a new machine (Ubuntu 11.04), I transferred my wallet.dat from my current machine, ran litecoind -rescan but my balance appears to be "0.00".

Have I missed something Huh
sr. member
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That doesn't mean a block has been found.
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Thanks :/ Been going for a couple of days now and still nothing... I'm thinking something's wrong....
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What's your hash rate?

You don't make progress when mining, you have the same chance of generating a block for every hash you generate.
hero member
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That doesn't mean a block has been found.
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Thanks :/ Been going for a couple of days now and still nothing... I'm thinking something's wrong....
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The next thing I'd like to add to the Litecoin client is the ability to mine at a pool. Matoking built a nice GUI on top of minerd. I will look into incorporating this into the client. See: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.587882

Sounds like a great idea.  Would you be able to include an easy way for people to switch between different flavours of minerd optimized for different CPUs ( like http://www.wuala.com/jbw9/pub/Bitcoin/Tenebrix/miner/win/ ),  maybe something like the way guiminer for Bitcoin enables this (doesn't need to be tabs for different versions of minerd, I guess it could be a drop-down selection or something)?

sr. member
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No, the messy output usually happens after long poll.

Are you replying to me to say that this isn't a block found:

"[[22001111--110-24 09:430:-2234]  0t9h:r4e3a:d2 20]:  t3h6r1e8a dh as1h:e s3,0 2
0.45 0h akshhaessh,/ s0ec
.47 khash/sec"
 
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That doesn't mean a block has been found.
hero member
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No, the messy output usually happens after long poll.

Are you replying to me to say that this isn't a block found:

"[[22001111--110-24 09:430:-2234]  0t9h:r4e3a:d2 20]:  t3h6r1e8a dh as1h:e s3,0 2
0.45 0h akshhaessh,/ s0ec
.47 khash/sec"
 
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The next thing I'd like to add to the Litecoin client is the ability to mine at a pool. Matoking built a nice GUI on top of minerd. I will look into incorporating this into the client. See: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.587882

A similar but opposite feature I'd like work on is for each client to be able to act as a node in a distributed pool.
Something like p2pool: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool
Either add a UI for the client to kick off p2pool. Or code up p2pool (or something similar) in C++.
The former will be much simpler, but would be hacky, because litecoin will start/stop/configure p2pool via python scripts, and p2pool will talk to litecoin via RPC calls on localhost.
The latter would be much nicer because the client will communicate with different nodes on the same p2p network as the block chain communication, but it would take considerable amount of work to implement it.

+1  nice! the latter. maybe something could be done in the interim and hold back the c++ implementation for a future release.
sr. member
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No, the messy output usually happens after long poll.

PROOF OF WORK RESULT: true (yay!!!) means you've found a block if you are solo mining.
False, on the other hand means you've found a block, but were too late to broadcast it to the network. (I've had this happen to me once, it wasn't fun)

The next thing I'd like to add to the Litecoin client is the ability to mine at a pool. Matoking built a nice GUI on top of minerd. I will look into incorporating this into the client. See: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.587882
Neat. Smiley

There is a small problem due to how the minerd executable works, though. The application receives the output only after the output buffer has been filled, which means the GUI doesn't report everything in real-time, and takes a minute to start reporting anything due to the way how minerd works (it won't output anything until a minute has passed).

The mining information (accepted shares, mining speed, etc.) could probably be added under the Wallet subtitle in the Overview page, I'll probably look into it soon.
hero member
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Code:
[[22001111--110-24 09:430:-2234]  0t9h:r4e3a:d2 20]:  t3h6r1e8a dh as1h:e s3,0 2
0.45 0h akshhaessh,/ s0ec
.47 khash/sec

^ does this mean the miner has found a block? It's different from the usual:

Code:
[2011-10-24 09:44:58] thread 0: 3175 hashes, 0.56 khash/sec


No extra coins are shown in the client window as I would expect. Been mining for a couple of days and still nothing makes me think there's something wrong even though I can see the rpc user & password are excepted.
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When the client is ready enough to accept more users, I think that GUI built in is going to be necessary.

I think a big draw to digital currencies like these was the ability to mine from your home computer.  That ability to do anything you wanted just using your computer.  Bitcoin and pools have taken this out of the hands of the casual user.  CPU mining I felt kind of put it back on more even grounds than video card wars, so if people had that built in, it would be good.  I know the majority of the users here live and die in command line operation systems, but when everyone is done hoarding and ready to accept the general populace, a proper built in miner with options would be good.

Having pool options I guess could be necessary, using SolidCoin's drop down as an example, I would not include the names of any specific pools at all and rather just link to a landing page set up to pull recent pool info and activity.

Also, make a feature to stop the client from freezing my computer Wink
vip
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And would ANYONE like to explain to me how doing a 51% attack on a new chain at very little price value will help my rep and the sustainability of either of the pools I run or any other cryptocurrency venture I might pursue.....

 Did not mean you any offense, Graet. You run a high-quality pool. Happily hashing away litecoins at your place.

 I suck at tact and my words come don't come out right sometimes.

 Was more concerned with the tremendous jump in hash rate by "temp" that gave your pool 70% control at one point. It could have been any pool, just noticed it on yours because I mine there.

 Kinda scary seeing that much power thrown at a popular, fledgling branch. Will be interesting to see how this affects Litecoin long term, if at all.

all good man - no offence taken - I was sort of rushing out to take kids to school when I posted, that was a general question.
Glad you are having a good experience at Ozcoin Smiley

But the "OMG 51% thing" is an issue I am dealing with a lot Wink
The interesting thing was as pool hashrate climbed the "unknown" section of the graph at http://litecoin.kicks-ass.org/graphs/graphs.html shrank.
at first we thought it was someone "showing " themselves as he was only on for a short time and then went back to "unknown".
I investigated "temp" as soon as i saw him start overtaking the pool hashrate. I do not think it is my place to release users details in public but I am satisfied this is a legitimate user.
I have also noticed hash spikes on other pools - had wondered if he was "testing" all the pools before he chose one to mine on.

Overnight (my tz) the network hashrate has increased and even with temp, Ozcoin cant currently get over 50%
I sincerely hope these are legit users - all pools need to be on the lookout for the other type Wink
donator
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Creator of Litecoin. Cryptocurrency enthusiast.
The next thing I'd like to add to the Litecoin client is the ability to mine at a pool. Matoking built a nice GUI on top of minerd. I will look into incorporating this into the client. See: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.587882

A similar but opposite feature I'd like work on is for each client to be able to act as a node in a distributed pool.
Something like p2pool: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool
Either add a UI for the client to kick off p2pool. Or code up p2pool (or something similar) in C++.
The former will be much simpler, but would be hacky, because litecoin will start/stop/configure p2pool via python scripts, and p2pool will talk to litecoin via RPC calls on localhost.
The latter would be much nicer because the client will communicate with different nodes on the same p2p network as the block chain communication, but it would take considerable amount of work to implement it.

Which of these features do you want?
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