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Topic: [ANN] Maieuticoin | 2014% PoS | 10k/MMXIV and BALLS/MMXIV Markets NOW OPEN - page 100. (Read 283202 times)

sr. member
Activity: 434
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"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation."
I agree, sounds good in theory but would be tough in practice.  I guess my point is - until there is more buy pressure, or a heckuva lot more hash on the multipool, the price of M is going to stay where it is now.
Actually, the price of M is more likely to decline in proportion to the increase in supply of M (due to POS), according to classic economic theory, unless demand can be increased.

We have only created another 53 coins since we switched to PoS. The last buy on the multipool was over 40 just for SHA alone, granted it was a very long shift, but the point still stands that the multipool very easily overpowers the amount created by PoS
Right, but a year from now, if all else stays the same, your coins will be worth 2/3 what they are today in theory with a 50% stake, and that works out to roughly 3 new coins per day, right? At current rates, the demand from the pool works out to be maybe 2-3M coins per day (if you average the last couple of months). The problem is that the selling volume on Bittrex appears to be many times that, so additional demand is going to be needed just to maintain current valuation unless you can keep people from selling.

Yes, but you are forgetting something. We don't pay fees to miners or anyone else. Any fee paid is discarded by the network and destroyed forever to help combat inflation at an uncontrollably fast rate. Combine normal trading transfers, as well as the 30 day max of staking before you have to move them again, and it should do well to control inflation alongside all the other tools and services to get them into strong hands of holders and stakers

Yes, we will have some inflation, but with this method it will be far, far less than a coin secured through Proof of Work

This reminded me,
hero member
Activity: 556
Merit: 500
Let me get this right after 30 days in my wallet they will not stake anymore right? So I just send them to an exchange and back to the same wallet to get them staking again?

Just to a different address. You can do it like that, too, though, if you want
Wow, I didn't know about that. Where does it say this?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation."
Let me get this right after 30 days in my wallet they will not stake anymore right? So I just send them to an exchange and back to the same wallet to get them staking again?

Just to a different address. You can do it like that, too, though, if you want

Ah so just make a new addy in the wallet (would save on fees for the 2nd leg of the trip)
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 120
Let me get this right after 30 days in my wallet they will not stake anymore right? So I just send them to an exchange and back to the same wallet to get them staking again?

Just to a different address. You can do it like that, too, though, if you want
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation."
Let me get this right after 30 days in my wallet they will not stake anymore right? So I just send them to an exchange and back to the same wallet to get them staking again?
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 120
We've got over 500 mh on the multipool now for Scrypt. Looking good!

full member
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Merit: 120
Can an estimated 24h earnings per unit of hash calculator be added to the pool page?

http://pool.mmxivcoin.com:8082/tbs

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My bad I mean a projected est. based on the current market. So people not mining yet can easily see they should.  
Posted here http://pool.mmxivcoin.com:8082/

That will be tough, because of how much all the coins fluctuate in both difficulty and market price. An estimate would only be accurate for about 5 minutes
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation."
Can an estimated 24h earnings per unit of hash calculator be added to the pool page?

http://pool.mmxivcoin.com:8082/tbs

Scroll way down

My bad I mean a projected est. based on the current market. So people not mining yet can easily see they should.  
Posted here http://pool.mmxivcoin.com:8082/
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 120
Can an estimated 24h earnings per unit of hash calculator be added to the pool page?

http://pool.mmxivcoin.com:8082/tbs

Scroll way down
hero member
Activity: 1249
Merit: 506
I've never messed with POS coin before... but is your balance supposed to disappear from your wallet? I have just over 6 coins that have vanished.

EDIT:  NM! I had to restart the client twice and now they are back under Stake: 
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation."
Can an estimated 24h earnings per unit of hash calculator be added to the pool page?
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 120
I think what he's saying is that instead of just buying into the sells, he is suggesting to put up Bids and wait for someone to sell



yes, exactly...

This will create surely more interrest on the market due to the fact bid/ask spread will be lower

I am not comfortable at all with doing hedging with other people's money.  Yes, if done correctly money could be made, and possibility drive the overall price up, but it would take a lot of time, and attention to make sure right.  I would rather use that time to work on improving the multlipool.

I agree, doing this would be very tough to implement and still be fair.  Keeping track of whose orders belonged to who and paying out when they were filled (or partially filled) would be a complex task.

It was just an idea . . . need to come up with something.  The price and market volume have been pretty stagnant for weeks.  The raffles, while a great idea, don't seem to be getting things moving much.

The price may be stagnant, but we have eaten through a lot of sells. The sell side now has less than 80 coins for sale at any price all the way up to 10 BTC each

Less than 3.5 BTC worth of sells between this price and 10 BTC each
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
I think what he's saying is that instead of just buying into the sells, he is suggesting to put up Bids and wait for someone to sell



yes, exactly...

This will create surely more interrest on the market due to the fact bid/ask spread will be lower

I am not comfortable at all with doing hedging with other people's money.  Yes, if done correctly money could be made, and possibility drive the overall price up, but it would take a lot of time, and attention to make sure right.  I would rather use that time to work on improving the multlipool.

I agree, doing this would be very tough to implement and still be fair.  Keeping track of whose orders belonged to who and paying out when they were filled (or partially filled) would be a complex task.

It was just an idea . . . need to come up with something.  The price and market volume have been pretty stagnant for weeks.  The raffles, while a great idea, don't seem to be getting things moving much.
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 120
I think what he's saying is that instead of just buying into the sells, he is suggesting to put up Bids and wait for someone to sell



yes, exactly...

This will create surely more interrest on the market due to the fact bid/ask spread will be lower

I am not comfortable at all with doing hedging with other people's money.  Yes, if done correctly money could be made, and possibility drive the overall price up, but it would take a lot of time, and attention to make sure right.  I would rather use that time to work on improving the multlipool.

I personally wouldn't like doing that either
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
https://cryptassist.io
I think what he's saying is that instead of just buying into the sells, he is suggesting to put up Bids and wait for someone to sell



yes, exactly...

This will create surely more interrest on the market due to the fact bid/ask spread will be lower

I am not comfortable at all with doing hedging with other people's money.  Yes, if done correctly money could be made, and possibility drive the overall price up, but it would take a lot of time, and attention to make sure right.  I would rather use that time to work on improving the multlipool.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
I think what he's saying is that instead of just buying into the sells, he is suggesting to put up Bids and wait for someone to sell



yes, exactly...

This will create surely more interrest on the market due to the fact bid/ask spread will be lower
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 120
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 120
I agree, sounds good in theory but would be tough in practice.  I guess my point is - until there is more buy pressure, or a heckuva lot more hash on the multipool, the price of M is going to stay where it is now.
Actually, the price of M is more likely to decline in proportion to the increase in supply of M (due to POS), according to classic economic theory, unless demand can be increased.

We have only created another 53 coins since we switched to PoS. The last buy on the multipool was over 40 just for SHA alone, granted it was a very long shift, but the point still stands that the multipool very easily overpowers the amount created by PoS
Right, but a year from now, if all else stays the same, your coins will be worth 2/3 what they are today in theory with a 50% stake, and that works out to roughly 3 new coins per day, right? At current rates, the demand from the pool works out to be maybe 2-3M coins per day (if you average the last couple of months). The problem is that the selling volume on Bittrex appears to be many times that, so additional demand is going to be needed just to maintain current valuation unless you can keep people from selling.

Yes, but you are forgetting something. We don't pay fees to miners or anyone else. Any fee paid is discarded by the network and destroyed forever to help combat inflation at an uncontrollably fast rate. Combine normal trading transfers, as well as the 30 day max of staking before you have to move them again, and it should do well to control inflation alongside all the other tools and services to get them into strong hands of holders and stakers

Yes, we will have some inflation, but with this method it will be far, far less than a coin secured through Proof of Work
full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 120
Are there two MMXIV's? I'm confused now  Embarrassed

Devvie
twitter.com/devnullius

Not that I'm aware of?
hero member
Activity: 556
Merit: 500
I agree, sounds good in theory but would be tough in practice.  I guess my point is - until there is more buy pressure, or a heckuva lot more hash on the multipool, the price of M is going to stay where it is now.
Actually, the price of M is more likely to decline in proportion to the increase in supply of M (due to POS), according to classic economic theory, unless demand can be increased.

We have only created another 53 coins since we switched to PoS. The last buy on the multipool was over 40 just for SHA alone, granted it was a very long shift, but the point still stands that the multipool very easily overpowers the amount created by PoS
Right, but a year from now, if all else stays the same, your coins will be worth 2/3 what they are today in theory with a 50% stake, and that works out to roughly 3 new coins per day, right? At current rates, the demand from the pool works out to be maybe 2-3M coins per day (if you average the last couple of months). The problem is that the selling volume on Bittrex appears to be many times that, so additional demand is going to be needed just to maintain current valuation unless you can keep people from selling.
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