Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 48. (Read 196217 times)

Oh, just stop it. Drama queen.

Have you no honor? Do you seriously want to publicly display your greed and incompetence to drag further ingenuous readers down into perdition just to enrich yourself?

I agree with that. Definitely there will be several projects for different purposes. Maybe Dash for super anonymity. Ethereum for sure, if they ever get to realize the vision (Vitalik's last post, https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/09/28/the-evolution-of-ethereum/, sounded like the foundation is out of money and now it's all up to the "community").

And IMO, Neucoin for the casual, game-playing, selfie-liking, tipping facebook masses. It doesn't matter that some hardcore miners don't like the standard QT client. And it doesn't take Zuckerberg's implementation or even approval to get something going on facebook. I've read all the neucoin material and I've seen the online wallet. Hell, I've even tried the growth account! And there's something to it. Something that feels more web 3.0 than crypto. If they can get the games integration and mainstream marketing right I think they can get a lot of users fast.

I agree that there will be many projects that bring different things to the table to move cryptocurrency forward. And I think Neucoin can be one of them. It has the best shot I've seen so far at getting lots of mainstream users.

It's the whole proposition of understanding what cryptocurrency is, grasping the concept of the blockchain and mining and then downloading a client and staking and all that - it's just not something that any mainstream consumer will ever do. That's not the way more mainstream users will come onboard, it just isn't.

download "Firefox" and double-click the "Firefox icon" really IS insanely technical. It really is.

The future of Crypto will be as easy-to-use as a safari-browser. And we will see browser with wallets and so on. Many different ways and most of them will be simplified. There will be wallets in social-network-accounts, maybe for more than just one Crypto and so on. I'm pretty sure about that but I would bet all my BTC that Neucoin won't survive. Main-reason is the economy... even if they would be able to develop it all what they want in an technical way, the central-bank-economy with a distribution that isn't distributed in any way and more like a pyramid-scheme... I really see no chance.

And if you look at the official forum... is that really a start how you and/or many others maybe believed several months ago? There is no difference to hundreds of other Altcoin-projects with a few who hope it will be the next big thing and already worrying about it. All the unasked questions that won't be answered. But it's in the heads and it's visible on the exchanges and the richlist.

I agree. And for sure Bitcoin has the most users of any cryptocurrency right now. But user adoption isn't happening. It's tiny compared to any reasonably popular app, game or website. And it's not going to grow an iota more from a "user-friendly QT" client, that's for sure.

That's why I think that any coin that can succeed in being easy and accessible for the facebook masses will be in that top 4-5.

I believe that the future of Crypto won't be just about one or two projects. There will be several, maybe ten great projects for different purposes. One will be anonymity and that won't be the Crypto with mass-user-adoption but it will be huge. So, Anon-projects are still interesting but unpredictable. I see Dash and BTCD as most promising, but nobody knows.

Another one could be what Neucoin wants to be. But it won't be a project with 100% interest and 97% premine and a a few early adopters complaining about the tech. And if you talk about Facebook-User and the growth account. There is maybe a contradiction. Because if people would use it to tip, they won't store it in an account they aren't able to touch if they want their interest. Another problem is, even if Neucoin would be a better project: Facebook has absolutely no need to implement a project to make the few owners rich. If Zuckerberg wants something like that he can develop it in a short timeframe. Neucoin is not a real decentralized Cryptocurrency. It's highly centralized.

By the way: There is a project I've just found out and read about it the last 20 hours or something like that. Factom... it has it all what Neucoin just claims to have. It's not with a focus on tipping, but on Blockchain-Application... build on the BTC-Blockchain but with it's own currency Factoids. The most interesting project I've seen so far. Very smart... also unpredictable, but also with a huge team behind it and every aspect I understand so far is really innovative. Like Ethereum build on Bitcoin.

And Ethereum itself... the idea, could be change Crypto in general. I'm not sure about it as an Investment, but the idea is big.

And there are several other projects... I don't see any chance for Neucoin and I don't say that to write it down. It's just what I think about it.

Neucoin is not going after maintream users with a "user-friendly QT". That would be insane! There is no such thing. "BTCD-QT", "staking", etc, it's just mumbo jumbo to 99.99999999999% of users. Consumers will never download a client. Never, ever, ever.

The standard neucoin qt client is for pro miners only - and completely irrelevant for mainstream users.

They are targeting facebook users who don't even know what bitcoin is. I'm totally serious when I say that for them to figure out what PoS mining is, let alone want to try and figure it out, download a "client" and change Settings to "Unlock Wallet for Minting Only" really IS insanely technical. It really is.

So forget about the desktop client, that's not how any facebook users will start adopting cryptocurrency. It's all about reaching them on their turf, in a fun effortless way, with what can be offered through simple web interface. Drop and drag, click and done.

That narrows it down to 4-5 coins tops - and we all know who is the King

Although, mass adoption is not possible yet, people will have to understand why they must choose using cryptocurrency and this needs time.

My point exactly. The facebook masses are different and want different things. Like it or not, but without mass adoption cryptocurrency will remain a niche phenomenon. Whichever coin gets the most users will win.

Sure, but if you read posts like this one:



I don't know the Neucoin-QT, but I would expect if a project claims to be the new Mainstream-Crypto with a focus on "easy-to-use" I would expect exactly that, plus a nice and clean design. I know several PoS-QT's, and as far as I know it's always the same:
Files --> Unlock Wallet --> Staking starts. If it's right that people have to do that in the debug window, I really don't understand that.

In my eyes there could be only two reasons:

- incompetence
- intention

And even if I believe that the Neucoin-Devs are most likely not the best Devs around I would assume, that it's intention... because they want to bind Coins in the Growth-Wallets with just three payout-times, which is also weird.

Think about it... why would anybody need a growth account if there would be a user-friendly QT? If I start staking in my BTCD-QT.. it stakes. And I have my BTCD and I can transact them whenever I want.

I really don't understand what some people see in Neucoin.

Fun?
Waiting 3 months to play again?

Slowly giving any value you had to the nokoin team. 
Being misled by the nokoin team.
Being lied too by nokoin team.
Being ignored by the nokoin team.
Being guided by the likes of Torrgeek and his "proof of fud" theories.
Being patronised by James.
Wondering if my computer is infected.

Surely your missing the bigger point that you are mining a soon to be worthless coin.

When nokoin Project team grow the balls to tell us how many nokoin they have kept, and will receive, in a clear way, then we will all see the robbery going on here. Maybe even you.
No matter how many shitty nokoin you mine.

Look around you, no one is buying, no one is talking, no one is interested.
People are not as dumb as nokoin hoped.
It's downhill from here.

There is no fun in nokoins hidden plan. 
But you wont ask.
You just don't want to see it yet.

And, according to your opinion, it is a great growth plan to assume that IF consumers play some game and earn some coins and IF there is an easy way for them to just click and multiply them, then they MAY think it's cool..... careful, not that they may adopt usage of the coin, maybe they will think it's cool...


Hmmmm.... Facebook masses don't give a flying.... duck about crypto, they only care how many "likes" this selfie they took with their brand new iPhone is getting
And, since you don't belong to the Facebook mainstream, who "has never even heard of cryptocurrency", how the duck do you know what is pretty great for them?
drag... drop... multiply....
damn, it is too complicated, get my Visa card and let's get over it

Face the facts: the average FB user doesn't care about anonymity, privacy or security, they have given up a long time ago - otherwise they wouldn't be using social media, Chrome, Google or Windows 10
They don't give a damn about decentralization, dodging bank cartels and their unethical practices etc etc etc...
and all those above is the heart of cryptocurrencies, this is why Bitcoin and altcoins exist.

So, what is the purpose for those "growth accounts" again?
Why can't you just stake your coins and - if things don't go as planned or just because you feel like it - be able to liquidate at anytime, like in every other PoS coin?

Let alone mining, who would want to mine a coin that is already 80+% premined and in a PoS stage?

Get real...

Because of the insanely high PoS reward in combination with the uneven percentaged effect of compounding interest between poor stakers and rich stakers, high variance + no predictability because of the floating stake modifier, proportionally lower chances to find a block for stakers who don't mint 24/7, necessity to compensate for the decline in purchasing power due to hyperinflation etc.pp.

What is going on here is not to be going on here at this moment in time.

BLEH.

Settings --> Unlock Wallet for Minting Only



http://forum.neucoin.org/t/more-user-friendly-method-of-staking-minting-coming-soon/1891/4 

I think you guys are missing the point. Anyone who wants to mine (and knows how to do it) can mine the good old way with a standard qt miner. People can and will start mining pools etc and mine Neucoin just like any other PoS coin. Even PoW actually in the first year.

No one has to sign up for any growth accounts. In fact, if you know how to mine why would you? Just mine they way you normally do.

But you forget how insanely technical mining is for 99.99% of the population. There are VERY FEW people who know what this means, let alone how to do it, or that would ever want to have to learn. That's who the growth accounts are for.

Neucoin is going after consumers, not miners and speculators. Sure, they need miners and speculators too - but their whole idea is to get lots of consumers.
And consumers will never download a client. Never, ever, ever. They don't know anything about computers or blockchains. They don't know about mining. Just as they don't know much about bitcoin. Or will ever download a client or even join a mining pool. They just want to click something on their phone.

But if these consumers earns some free coins by playing a game, and if there's an easy way to just click right there on their phone and those coins start to multiply so that he can play even more games, they may think it's cool.

So, the growth accounts isn't the only way you can mine Neucoin. Again, if you know how to mine, just mine. The growth accounts isn't for us here on bitcointalk, it's just a consumer feature for the facebook mainstream who has never even heard of "cryptocurrency". And for them it's pretty great, drop and drag and your coins are multiplying. They key here is easy and fun. That's all the facebook masses care about.

Indeed, so the regime bought another 200k of their own crap on bittrex during the last 24 hours.
Everybody else seems to be selling, fortunately.

more greed.