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legendary
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You said promotion reserves a lot? But I never see any signature campaign or social media campaign, so you reserve the money for you own money, absurd "promo fund"

Beyond the Void product is the game. Beyons the Void. Not the ICO for Nexium. Nexium is just token that will be used in game and helped crowdfunding the game.  Right now game is not even in closed beta. So there is nothing to promote. When it will be ready to launch, I am sure game will be promoted. So make sure to return to this thread and read about game progress and help with promotions when time is right.



Can a Beyond the Void DEV confirm?

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When you buy something in our shop, the half is burnt and the other half goes to us (devs)?

If so, what are you gonna do with all that NXC? Is owning half the supply not enough?  Huh




Half of Nexium that developers get from sales will be used to run game and develop game further.

As I see so far they raised for like $200k to develop game + took 15 milions Nexium not really sure for what.  I thought that crowdfunding $200k in ETH+BCY was meant for game to get developed.

Latter game will get 50% of all spent Nexium from players. With that will try to continue development + make sure game run smooth.

I say this from how i understand Spells of Genesis will run. I doubt here will be any difference.  We will see.


Thing that most confuse me right now is that i cant see Nexium richlist. Can some Ethereum expert help me with that please.
legendary
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Hyperspace snail
Can a Beyond the Void DEV confirm?

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When you buy something in our shop, the half is burnt and the other half goes to us (devs)?

If so, what are you gonna do with all that NXC? Is owning half the supply not enough?  Huh

hero member
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   When is the projected date of a live Game?? also will you collaborate with Aumentors?

You should check timeline:
https://beyond-the-void.net/index.php/timeline/
legendary
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   When is the projected date of a live Game?? also will you collaborate with Aumentors?
hero member
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I apologize if I was not clear.
What I meant is: we couldn't know the final percentages before the ICO finished and we distribute the Nexium bonus from the backer ranks. The backers were aware of this.
We burned the remaining unsold Nexium yesterday, and only now we have the new repartition percentages.



But you knew very well that you kept 30% of 100M from the start and knew that this would be a huge amount because you even stated a few days ago that around 35M would get burned. Yet, you still didn't include those extra coins you got from the 100M into it.

It is all fine if you think that this is fair a thing to do although I think you should have told that openly that you will hold almost half of the supply.

I really like what you(the team) are trying to do here and Im not here trying to bash on you or the project but I have a hard time understanding the decision making behind this.

What you could do is provide the wallets with the founders tokens/coins, if it is as you say, that you have no interest in selling. And also provide information about how many coins you spent on promotion and plan to spend on different things. If you are going to have market with investors, people should know when new supply will be available.

Agreed, personally I have nothing against the devs but after the shit show with AMP and Arcade. Devs holding a large amount of the supply keeps me distant and at a very very small investment into NXC.

I was suggesting the devs adjust the 15% of the coins they have for promotions to be 15% of the new supply. The shares they took I understand is a stake in the company for their work as they aren't getting paid salaries, but the 15M for promotions is a tad too much. Unless there's plans for a second round of investing.
full member
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In people minds, we hold 50% of the token. This is not right: there is not one address with 50% of NxC total supply on it.

Here is the repartition of the first 15 Million NxC between the 4 teammates:

Maxence 6 Million
Eric 4 Million
Rémi 4 Million
Manon 1 Million

We are still separated entities, so nobody holds more than 6 Million. Also, there are backers that hold more than us (more than 6 Million). So Maxence, who is the original creator in this project, actually holds less than our biggest backer.
We actually worked a lot to bring this project to life, including lots of months where we weren't paid and we chose to be rewarded for that. This is a matter of choice of course so there is no point in discussing it now on bitcointalk.

The next 15 Million Nexiums are meant to be spent on promotion (we already spent some on those, and I'll publish soon a marketing strategy & budget). We promoted the ICO, we are now published on Forbes, listed on Poloniex and so on.

We are not interested in dumping Nexiums on the market. And the value of the Nexium is tied to the success of the game so we are focusing on releasing a good game and on time.

Thanks for the detail, and looking forward for the marketing info.
legendary
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Hyperspace snail
I apologize if I was not clear.
What I meant is: we couldn't know the final percentages before the ICO finished and we distribute the Nexium bonus from the backer ranks. The backers were aware of this.
We burned the remaining unsold Nexium yesterday, and only now we have the new repartition percentages.



But you knew very well that you kept 30% of 100M from the start and knew that this would be a huge amount because you even stated a few days ago that around 35M would get burned. Yet, you still didn't include those extra coins you got from the 100M into it.

It is all fine if you think that this is fair a thing to do although I think you should have told that openly that you will hold almost half of the supply.

I really like what you(the team) are trying to do here and Im not here trying to bash on you or the project but I have a hard time understanding the decision making behind this.

What you could do is provide the wallets with the founders tokens/coins, if it is as you say, that you have no interest in selling. And also provide information about how many coins you spent on promotion and plan to spend on different things. If you are going to have market with investors, people should know when new supply will be available.
Transparency is needed.
hero member
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I apologize if I was not clear.
What I meant is: we couldn't know the final percentages before the ICO finished and we distribute the Nexium bonus from the backer ranks. The backers were aware of this.
We burned the remaining unsold Nexium yesterday, and only now we have the new repartition percentages.



But you knew very well that you kept 30% of 100M from the start and knew that this would be a huge amount because you even stated a few days ago that around 35M would get burned. Yet, you still didn't include those extra coins you got from the 100M into it.

It is all fine if you think that this is fair a thing to do although I think you should have told that openly that you will hold almost half of the supply.

I really like what you(the team) are trying to do here and Im not here trying to bash on you or the project but I have a hard time understanding the decision making behind this.

What you could do is provide the wallets with the founders tokens/coins, if it is as you say, that you have no interest in selling. And also provide information about how many coins you spent on promotion and plan to spend on different things. If you are going to have market with investors, people should know when new supply will be available.
hero member
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You said promotion reserves a lot? But I never see any signature campaign or social media campaign, so you reserve the money for you own money, absurd "promo fund"
sr. member
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Yes everyone knows that 30% are from 100mil and not from the actual total coins...

No one could knows before how much will get sold.

sr. member
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What I meant is: we couldn't know the final percentages before the ICO finished and we distribute the Nexium bonus from the backer ranks. The backers were aware of this.
We burned the remaining unsold Nexium yesterday, and only now we have the new repartition percentages.

hero member
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You may not agree with how we managed the percentages and the ICO, but the information about that is written clearly on our website.
Our backers knew from the beginning that we were going to burn the unsold NxC, and actually were anxious to see it done (we did it a little bit late on schedule).

I rather see that you answer the questions instead of avoiding them. I didn't say they didn't know about the coins/tokens being burned. I said I hope that you told them that you would keep 30% of the 100 Million and not the 66M that were left after you burned the remaining unsold.

As I said before, if you state 100M but at the same time state 15% for founders and 15% for promotion, one would guess that you take those 30% of the total available supply not the old supply that was burned.
sr. member
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You may not agree with how we managed the percentages and the ICO, but the information about that is written clearly on our website.
Our backers knew from the beginning that we were going to burn the unsold NxC, and actually were anxious to see it done (we did it a little bit late on schedule).
sr. member
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15% +15% = 30%   -->  30% 100mil = 30mil....


That now it is 50% of the complete market cap that everybody must know before.

if the ico where lower than now they maybe had more than 50%...


do you dont know it before?
hero member
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Why shady way of doing?
Everyone know its before the ICO, The Percentage was known and also everyone knows the risk that not all coins might be sold.

15 + 15 = 30, it is now close to 50%, it doesn't get easier than that to understand that they kept more than they said would.
sr. member
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Why shady way of doing?
Everyone know its before the ICO, The Percentage was known and also everyone knows the risk that not all coins might be sold.
hero member
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In people minds, we hold 50% of the token. This is not right: there is not one address with 50% of NxC total supply on it.

Here is the repartition of the first 15 Million NxC between the 4 teammates:

Maxence 6 Million
Eric 4 Million
Rémi 4 Million
Manon 1 Million

We are still separated entities, so nobody holds more than 6 Million. Also, there are backers that hold more than us (more than 6 Million). So Maxence, who is the original creator in this project, actually holds less than our biggest backer.
We actually worked a lot to bring this project to life, including lots of months where we weren't paid and we chose to be rewarded for that. This is a matter of choice of course so there is no point in discussing it now on bitcointalk.

The next 15 Million Nexiums are meant to be spent on promotion (we already spent some on those, and I'll publish soon a marketing strategy & budget). We promoted the ICO, we are now published on Forbes, listed on Poloniex and so on.

We are not interested in dumping Nexiums on the market. And the value of the Nexium is tied to the success of the game so we are focusing on releasing a good game and on time.

That doesn't change the fact that the founders almost have access to 50% together, just because you pile up names with an amount it doesn't make it look any better.

Backers BOUGHT those tokens/coins from you, those who bought during the ICO has nothing to do with this, dont really know why you would take that up.

Why shouldn't we discuss this on bitcointalk, isn't that why you have a thread so people actually can talk? I think it is fair for everyone to see discussions here just as much as the people on Slack.

On your own site it clearly states the following:

    Allocation of Nexiums:
        15% for the founders.
        15% for promoting the game.
        70% for crowdfunding and other backers.
"We created 100 000 000 Nexiums using a smart contract (the amount is fixed)."

This was what everyone bought into, knowing you would have 15% for the founders and 15% to promote the game. But now when you burned 30+ million and still keep the same amount of coins for founders/promotion it is not 30% in total there anymore, it is closer to 50%.

I hope you informed everyone that you would do this before they bought the into the ICO because that is very shady way of doing business.

I find it weird that you justify the amount of coins you kept because you didn't get paid the first months. If you are not going to sell it, why do you need it? Why didn't you ask for more money during the ICO to pay everyone that has been working during these months?


sr. member
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In people minds, we hold 50% of the token. This is not right: there is not one address with 50% of NxC total supply on it.

Here is the repartition of the first 15 Million NxC between the 4 teammates:

Maxence 6 Million
Eric 4 Million
Rémi 4 Million
Manon 1 Million

We are still separated entities, so nobody holds more than 6 Million. Also, there are backers that hold more than us (more than 6 Million). So Maxence, who is the original creator in this project, actually holds less than our biggest backer.
We actually worked a lot to bring this project to life, including lots of months where we weren't paid and we chose to be rewarded for that. This is a matter of choice of course so there is no point in discussing it now on bitcointalk.

The next 15 Million Nexiums are meant to be spent on promotion (we already spent some on those, and I'll publish soon a marketing strategy & budget). We promoted the ICO, we are now published on Forbes, listed on Poloniex and so on.

We are not interested in dumping Nexiums on the market. And the value of the Nexium is tied to the success of the game so we are focusing on releasing a good game and on time.
hero member
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Yes a lot of Token Devs holding more than 50 %.
ICN for example the Devs are invested privatley before the ICO

1STBlood more than 80% is on Dev(Exchange) Hand... and so one and so on.



Come on man, they did not invest private there, they didn't spend 4-5 million USD to fund their own ICO, that is just absurd.

And first blood ICO, how is it going for that one? No major EU/US exchanges etc, just no, it is not good no matter how you try to point it.

Edit: Anyway no more offtopic from me, Im waiting for the devs to answer.
sr. member
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Yes a lot of Token Devs holding more than 50 %.
ICN for example the Devs are invested privatley before the ICO

1STBlood more than 80% is on Dev(Exchange) Hand... and so one and so on.

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