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jr. member
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Noso project developer.
This project has been permanently stopped.
A reboot by some of the team members is being considered. None of the original designers are part of this initiative anymore, and we wish them the best of luck.

All information here is considered outdated as of now, including but not limited to:

- Websites.
- Social networks.
- Repositories.
- Exchanges.
- Software.

Full stop.
newbie
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Hey Sajed,

“Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain – and most fools do.” – Benjamin Franklin

If all attempts at being a bully and shouting names at your opponent fail, then let's get the inspirational quotes out, cuz THAT'S like using a nuke, and that's the MOAB, right?


And BTW, Sajed, aren't you a person that is studying for a profession that involves using computers?
Can you not learn how to properly use the bloody quoting system?!
Please make an effort to fight back and not appear so lame in doing it!!!
Up til now, it's been failure over failure, mate!!

Cheers,
Gus
jr. member
Activity: 130
Merit: 6
Noso project developer.
Coming here to post a warning against the project just for being banned from discord is quite absurd and childish, considering that the ban was for not following the rules of the server.

On the other hand, accusing of fraud without providing evidence certainly reaches another level of insanity and hatred. Who has been scammed? OTC transactions have been made on the server with a value of +$250,000 without a complaint or claim. Investors are satisfied with the progress of the project, while the only complaints and hatred comes from those who try to exploit the project solely for their own benefit.

End of cycle project? More developers recently joined and the protocol is being translated into more programming languages, self-funded monetization has been reached (which allows even haters to make a profit) and the projection does not stop increasing without investing a single penny in promotion. .

The easy way to recognize haters from genuinely objective critics is to look at their opinions:
- Is the person involved in the development? Is it a reliable opinion?
- Are reasonable proposals for improvement made?
- Are the improvements recognized or is it only criticized?

While the haters that we have here (one created the account to come to spread hate only, while the other made his first post about the project after being banned for not following the rules of the discord server) they have nothing else to do , the people in the project don't have the time to respond to this nonsense.

Getting into discussions and disqualifications with haters and FUDers is far from the goal of this thread, but already doing it on a personal level is unacceptable and I am personally appalled by the lack of moderation on this forum. When the harassment against the project becomes harassment on a personal level, it is clear that the limits are clearly exceeded and it is time to say "enough".
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I don't understand why people call scam so easily. Did you put money into this? How? Did you mine??? Excuse me! Is Noso centralized? Is Xrp centralized? Just a question…

I don't think "scam" is the right term. The Noso-project is led authoritarian and centralized. The code includes, for example, the option for the management to freeze the funds in any account. This means that the management of the Noso project has assumed power and authority that can otherwise only be exercised by the police and the courts, so that the account holders are deprived of all normal legal guarantees for a fair trial and protection against arbitrary confiscation etc.

The Noso project is led by holders of so-called Governance Tokens. These GVT tokens can be purchased for around US$400 and a person can have more than one GVT. There are currently 66 GVTs sold. Fewer than 10 people hold enough tokens to have the majority on votes on important issues.

newbie
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Hey Sajed,

We chose to build our house with glass because we value transparency and openness Grin.

So the fact that you're wasting money on something that is not your house, your wife and your baby is something that you  need a transparent house to show it off?!
I don't get it... Shouldn't you be taking care of your family first and then, if money permits, do some side hustle?
Isn't that the correct way to do it in Lebanon?

It's important to note that being poor is not something to be ashamed of!!! at least I have pride and manners.

I never said that you were rich and a brute... Are you so dimwit that you forgot how to read?
What I said is that in your poverty, you prioritise wasting money on an end of life coin instead of taking care of your baby and wife, and then double down on insulting a person that is talking truth to power...
Can you please make a coherent reply that includes the items of information that I've provided and not go fetch all the nonsense that litters the room, like a small dogie-do?
Can you?! Really make an effort and be on point?!? Or is it just wind in between those ears?
Cuz hey, I have 2 kids and I never wasted money on an end of life coin instead of providing a roof over their heads and keeping them warm, clothed and fed... Just saying...

Cheers,
Gus

“Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain – and most fools do.” – Benjamin Franklin
newbie
Activity: 22
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Hey Sajed,

We chose to build our house with glass because we value transparency and openness Grin.

So the fact that you're wasting money on something that is not your house, your wife and your baby is something that you  need a transparent house to show it off?!
I don't get it... Shouldn't you be taking care of your family first and then, if money permits, do some side hustle?
Isn't that the correct way to do it in Lebanon?

It's important to note that being poor is not something to be ashamed of!!! at least I have pride and manners.

I never said that you were rich and a brute... Are you so dimwit that you forgot how to read?
What I said is that in your poverty, you prioritise wasting money on an end of life coin instead of taking care of your baby and wife, and then double down on insulting a person that is talking truth to power...
Can you please make a coherent reply that includes the items of information that I've provided and not go fetch all the nonsense that litters the room, like a small dogie-do?
Can you?! Really make an effort and be on point?!? Or is it just wind in between those ears?
Cuz hey, I have 2 kids and I never wasted money on an end of life coin instead of providing a roof over their heads and keeping them warm, clothed and fed... Just saying...

Cheers,
Gus
newbie
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Hey @dualdragon,

Now for a personalised bit of attention towards you...

I find it amusing, but mostly telling, that when you come to point a finger at someone crying "J'accuse!!!", you would do it behind a nick name.

See, behind a mask, behind a fake name, behind a keyboard, all the cowards feel mighty. All the trolls think they have something to say...
And, you're not even quite clever because all the clues you needed to "unveil" my "shameful" practices are quite common knowledge.

You see, unlike you, I don't hide behind a persona, or a screen/nickname.
With me, it's more of a WYSIWYG kinda thing(Let's hope your intelligent enough to know what that acronym is).

This pretty much tells us a lot about you. But mainly it tells everybody that you have the courage to cry foul, but only when the crowd can mask your voice and no one can pin it to you.

So, if you want to clear that yellow colour on your body, if you have an ounce of honesty, if your spine is not as wiggly as spaghetti, you'll answer this question:
WHO DAFUQ ARE YOU?!?!?

Cuz from what you posted, the only thing we can assess is that your a very dimwit troll, that hides behind a nick name and then proceeds to dox the guy that has already doxed himself... Not very clever is it?

Cheers,
Gus
newbie
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Hey Sajed,

If these responses didn't prove to everyone how pathetic and stupid those people are i dont know what to say  Grin
and also @gcarreno just because you made couple libraries doesnt make you a good developer  Cheesy

People that have glass ceilings should not start to throw rocks onto the neighbours house, so In the context of that saying...

Shouldn't you be using the money you're sinking into Noso to feed your baby?
To buy diapers for your baby?
To buy fresh water for your baby?
To buy fuel to keep your baby warm in the Winter?
To pay for rent so your baby and his mother have a roof over their head?

Should you not being making money to pay the debt you've accrued with your parents and siblings because you think Noso is the shit?
Should you not be using the money you're wasting in this end of life coin to support your wife, the mother of your child?
Or is it now ok for a Lebanon Muslim to waste money all over the place and leave it's own family in misery?

Like I said, people with glass ceilings!!!

Couple libraries, my arse, PFFFFF, if lies where excrement, you'd be force to wear a toilet on your back...

Cheers,
Gus

We chose to build our house with glass because we value transparency and openness Grin.
It's important to note that being poor is not something to be ashamed of!!! at least I have pride and manners.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 1
Hey Sajed,

If these responses didn't prove to everyone how pathetic and stupid those people are i dont know what to say  Grin
and also @gcarreno just because you made couple libraries doesnt make you a good developer  Cheesy

People that have glass ceilings should not start to throw rocks onto the neighbours house, so In the context of that saying...

Shouldn't you be using the money you're sinking into Noso to feed your baby?
To buy diapers for your baby?
To buy fresh water for your baby?
To buy fuel to keep your baby warm in the Winter?
To pay for rent so your baby and his mother have a roof over their head?

Should you not being making money to pay the debt you've accrued with your parents and siblings because you think Noso is the shit?
Should you not be using the money you're wasting in this end of life coin to support your wife, the mother of your child?
Or is it now ok for a Lebanon Muslim to waste money all over the place and leave it's own family in misery?

Like I said, people with glass ceilings!!!

Couple libraries, my arse, PFFFFF, if lies where excrement, you'd be force to wear a toilet on your back...

Cheers,
Gus
newbie
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This forum is for marketing, and technical discussion.
Denigrating someone else's body and mental is unacceptable for any reason.
newbie
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Hey @sikorh,

When people decide that the only way to have, or win, an argument is by adopting a school-yard bully stance and start calling names willy-nilly... You've lost the argument without even participating in it!

Oh, and you are absolutely right when you say that I'm mentally ill!!
I've been diagnosed with chronic depression and anxiety. I had to retire quite early and live from the handout of the government.
I've also attempted suicide on 2 occasions, because my brain chemistry is all out of whack.

So, yeah, I'm completely cuckoo on the membrain!! But again, in this day and age, WHO DAFUQ isn't, hein?

Hey @dualdragon,

Yeap, all that you've listed is completely true!
I have an account that has the hash N3RicsZoDsDsNhnt2qirkR2HwVC3GFZ and has around 12K Noso.
And, of course, you're also correct when you also mentioned my Master Node running on the afore mentioned IP address!!

I've been emotionally attached to this project for the past 2 years.
I'm finding it hard to detach, again, emotionally, from this project and the community, mainly because I poured a lot of my intellect and soul to this project and only got shit thrown back at my face.
So, yeah, I still have skin on this project!! And yeah, I'm effin PISSED!!!

Now, is this cause for me to not keep those systems running so I have an informed opinion of what is going on? Nope!!
Is this cause for me to backup the lies that are being spewed from the anonymous clique? NOPE!!
Does that exclude me from trying to translate a bit of my hurt into money? Nope!!

In conclusion, all that you've stated, dear @dualdragon, does not invalidate the facts that I and others have presented before!!!

Am I a bit shady when I say it's a pending scam but I participate in the scam? Yeap!!
But again, for the past 2 years, like I mentioned above, I poured quite a lot of me into this project and if I feel that I need a bit of compensation, and WHO DAFUQ are you to say otherwise?

Cheers,
Gus
If these responses didn't prove to everyone how pathetic and stupid those people are i dont know what to say  Grin
and also @gcarreno just because you made couple libraries doesnt make you a good developer  Cheesy or returns your wife!
newbie
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Hey @sikorh,

When people decide that the only way to have, or win, an argument is by adopting a school-yard bully stance and start calling names willy-nilly... You've lost the argument without even participating in it!

Oh, and you are absolutely right when you say that I'm mentally ill!!
I've been diagnosed with chronic depression and anxiety. I had to retire quite early and live from the handout of the government.
I've also attempted suicide on 2 occasions, because my brain chemistry is all out of whack.

So, yeah, I'm completely cuckoo on the membrain!! But again, in this day and age, WHO DAFUQ isn't, hein?

Hey @dualdragon,

Yeap, all that you've listed is completely true!
I have an account that has the hash N3RicsZoDsDsNhnt2qirkR2HwVC3GFZ and has around 12K Noso.
And, of course, you're also correct when you also mentioned my Master Node running on the afore mentioned IP address!!

I've been emotionally attached to this project for the past 2 years.
I'm finding it hard to detach, again, emotionally, from this project and the community, mainly because I poured a lot of my intellect and soul to this project and only got shit thrown back at my face.
So, yeah, I still have skin on this project!! And yeah, I'm effin PISSED!!!

Now, is this cause for me to not keep those systems running so I have an informed opinion of what is going on? Nope!!
Is this cause for me to backup the lies that are being spewed from the anonymous clique? NOPE!!
Does that exclude me from trying to translate a bit of my hurt into money? Nope!!

In conclusion, all that you've stated, dear @dualdragon, does not invalidate the facts that I and others have presented before!!!

Am I a bit shady when I say it's a pending scam but I participate in the scam? Yeap!!
But again, for the past 2 years, like I mentioned above, I poured quite a lot of me into this project and if I feel that I need a bit of compensation, and WHO DAFUQ are you to say otherwise?

Cheers,
Gus
newbie
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Dear Gcarreno ,

You said that this project " either a scam, or a bunch.....".
May I ask you a question that whether the N3RicsZoDsDsNhnt2qirkR2HwVC3GFZ  is owned by you? It has Alias as "gcarreno-main".
I found that there is 12015 NOSO in it (http://explorer.nosocoin.com/getaddressbalance.html?address=N3RicsZoDsDsNhnt2qirkR2HwVC3GFZ), also it is running a  MN on 216.127.162.8;8080.

If it is not owned by you, then please ignore this message. Otherwise, could you please tell me why you only sold ~1500 NOSO in 7sea exchange, keep 12000NOSO and running a MN? Should we run away from this "scam" project? I am confused.



Dragon

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>> address N3RicsZoDsDsNhnt2qirkR2HwVC3GFZ
Address   : N3RicsZoDsDsNhnt2qirkR2HwVC3GFZ
Alias     : gcarreno-main
Summary   : 12015.88536769 (442)
Incoming  : 0.00000000
Outgoing  : 0.00000000
Available : 12015.88536769
Masternode: Active
>> history N3RicsZoDsDsNhnt2qirkR2HwVC3GFZ
Last block : 109829
Address    : N3RicsZoDsDsNhnt2qirkR2HwVC3GFZ
INCOMINGS
  Mined        : 0
  Mined blocks :
  Transactions : 1
  Coins        : 0.14928767
  PoS Payments : 0
  PoS Earnings : 0.00000000
OUTGOINGS
  Transactions : 8
  Coins        : 1590.17000000
TOTAL  : -1590.02071233
SUMARY : 12015.88536769

Transactions
109764] N3T4jeimYwgd1YHBqSex8C43eTXHYDm--> 30.00000000
109614] N3T4jeimYwgd1YHBqSex8C43eTXHYDm--> 60.00000000
109253] N3T4jeimYwgd1YHBqSex8C43eTXHYDm--> 60.00000000
109219] N3aXz2RGwj8LAZgtgyyXNRkfQ1EMnFC<-- 0.14928767
108797] N3T4jeimYwgd1YHBqSex8C43eTXHYDm--> 1000.00000000
108740] N3T4jeimYwgd1YHBqSex8C43eTXHYDm--> 60.00000000
108124] N3T4jeimYwgd1YHBqSex8C43eTXHYDm--> 60.00000000
107324] N3T4jeimYwgd1YHBqSex8C43eTXHYDm--> 60.00000000
106652] N3T4jeimYwgd1YHBqSex8C43eTXHYDm--> 260.00000000
==========================================


Hey Y'all,

I need to thank both @nightraven and @MMOStars for coming forward and backing the story that Noso is, NOW, either a scam, or a bunch of people in panic mode trying to recoup a very bad investment of time. There was a time when this coin had a future Sad

In my previous message on this thread I was probably a bit too technical, or just a bit too rambly...

Nonetheless, I think that @nightraven was a lot more eloquent and for that I thank him a lot!!

Cheers,
Gus
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when a mentally ill person like GUS careno and bunch of scammers unite they form the fart group  Cheesy
goodluck  Grin you wont gain anything out of this
BTW everybody this guy "GUS" slandering has about 40k coin at market price of 40,000$[/font
If you guys wants to start a war based on lies and FUD am here to tear you apart scumbags!!!
 @nightraven @MMOStars @gcarreno

I don't want to start a war. I just want to inform potential investors that the Noso-project is managed by an anonymous circle of persons that completely arbitrarily change current terms and introduce new rules as they wish, and that they exclude any opposition from the community in Discord. I have done this by nicely and matter-of-factly describing what I have experienced

But I don't want a war where you obviously find it reasonable to accuse others of being "mentally ill" and to call others "scumbags". I don't want to debate on such a low level. But that says a lot about you and the climate in the Noso community.



Just go F yourself honestly we don't have time for people like you
We appreciate the fact that you have 3 comments made on bitcointalk and all made at noso 😂
newbie
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when a mentally ill person like GUS careno and bunch of scammers unite they form the fart group  Cheesy
goodluck  Grin you wont gain anything out of this
BTW everybody this guy "GUS" slandering has about 40k coin at market price of 40,000$[/font
If you guys wants to start a war based on lies and FUD am here to tear you apart scumbags!!!
 @nightraven @MMOStars @gcarreno

I don't want to start a war. I just want to inform potential investors that the Noso-project is managed by an anonymous circle of persons that completely arbitrarily change current terms and introduce new rules as they wish, and that they exclude any opposition from the community in Discord. I have done this by nicely and matter-of-factly describing what I have experienced

But I don't want a war where you obviously find it reasonable to accuse others of being "mentally ill" and to call others "scumbags". I don't want to debate on such a low level. But that says a lot about you and the climate in the Noso community.



Just go F yourself honestly we don't have time for people like you
full member
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I don't understand why people call scam so easily. Did you put money into this? How? Did you mine??? Excuse me! Is Noso centralized? Is Xrp centralized? Just a question…
full member
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when a mentally ill person like GUS careno and bunch of scammers unite they form the fart group  Cheesy
goodluck  Grin you wont gain anything out of this
BTW everybody this guy "GUS" slandering has about 40k coin at market price of 40,000$[/font
If you guys wants to start a war based on lies and FUD am here to tear you apart scumbags!!!
 @nightraven @MMOStars @gcarreno

I don't want to start a war. I just want to inform potential investors that the Noso-project is managed by an anonymous circle of persons that completely arbitrarily change current terms and introduce new rules as they wish, and that they exclude any opposition from the community in Discord. I have done this by nicely and matter-of-factly describing what I have experienced

But I don't want a war where you obviously find it reasonable to accuse others of being "mentally ill" and to call others "scumbags". I don't want to debate on such a low level. But that says a lot about you and the climate in the Noso community.
newbie
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WARNING
I think there is reason to warn against the Noso project. Unlike other crypto projects, there are no peer to peer or democracy principles in this project.

A small, completely anonymous clique of about 8-10 people manage everything both when it comes to the development of software and the way the community is managed. Important decisions are never discussed within the community in the social medias. The community is only informed when the decisions have been made and cannot be changed. People who disagree or criticize the decisions are banned from the social medias without warning and without explanation.

This anonymous clique has unilaterally made important decisions that time and again change the conditions of the participants. Let me give a few examples.
- GPU mining was banned and accounts with about 250,000 Noso (with a current market price of about 80,000 US$) were frozen, depriving the holders of their funds.
- PoW has been gradually changed to PoS through several steps. At the same time, a development fund has been introduced, which receives 10% of block rewards and transaction fees.
- The minimum fee for transaction has been increased 100,000 times.
- Although the clique repeatedly claims that they work without payment, the lead developer has just been paid 45,000 Noso (at a market price of US$15,000-20,000) from the development fund.

Investors should therefore think carefully before investing in Noso coins. All applicable rules and conditions may be changed without notice at the discretion of the anonymous clique.



when a mentally ill person like GUS careno and bunch of scammers unite they form the fart group  Cheesy
goodluck  Grin you wont gain anything out of this
BTW everybody this guy "GUS" slandering has about 40k coin at market price of 40,000$

If you guys wants to start a war based on lies and FUD am here to tear you apart scumbags!!!
 @nightraven @MMOStars @gcarreno

1- "a development fund has been introduced, which receives 10% of block rewards and transaction fees"
 its called project fund and it was introduced at  block 88406 now we are at block 109781 at the time of the message  Wink
2-"The minimum fee for transaction has been increased 100,000 times"
minimal fee didnt change its the same 0.01% only the minimal noso amount to be transferred changed to prevent microtransactions from flooding the mainnet
3- "Although the clique repeatedly claims that they work without payment, the lead developer has just been paid 45,000 Noso (at a market price of US$15,000-20,000) from the development fund"
this is fud too, Bermello bought 20k from the project development wallet and has only been rewarded 25k for the past 2 years of work
4-"GPU mining was banned and accounts with about 250,000 Noso (with a current market price of about 80,000 US$) were frozen, depriving the holders of their funds"
This decision was also voted by GVTs to punish these exploiters.

it’s funny that someone like @Nightraven even dares to post this kind of bullshit fud when the same individual wrote :
nightraven — 05/02/2023 5:25 PM
Blockchain technology is based on Algorithmic Governance instead of Human Governance. Algorithms published as open source can be examined so we don't have to trust humans. It is therefore a crucial principle that "code is law". If the code allows something, then it is legal. Yes, even if there are bugs, it is legitimate to take advantage of the opportunity.
bermello — 05/02/2023 5:31 PM
The GVT decission was not to be POPULAR, was to be Ethic.
If you dont like it, you already had enough time to leave.
Legality does not define ethics.
Sliman Akkarin — 05/02/2023 5:35 PM
lol. So when hackers breach a liquidity pool on Ethereum tokens it’s legal because code allows it (yes it does, they did it). So why legal actions were taken against them lol ?
So when you breach someone’s network it’s legal because there was a flaw in the code lol ?

jr. member
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I understand someone's pain. Noso will be hard to stop no matter how hard you try
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
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