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cyberminer666

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Quote from: miseree on February 12, 2014, 07:06:30 PM

Perhaps I acted out of turn, but I'm tired of waiting for others to help promote this coin. I've made this suggestion twice previously in this forum with no response. This coin needs several things for success, and I believe one of the more important things is some good old selfless philanthropy. Let this coin be known for generosity and take advantage of the publicity that can be made of that. Without that, this coin will be nothing more than any other failed coin that was created for the purpose generating some income. This is why I reached out to the SETI institute and offered a donation of ALN to support their cause. Their site has a list of several types of donations they are willing to receive and they happen to already take securities which this *could* fall under.

Check out: http://www.seti.org/node/564

DEV...if they are in agreement, then you need to show your support for this coin and this community and make a significant contribution from the premine. This is exactly the kind of stuff that a premine is for. We are also going to need a web site, forum, twitter, etc to promote the initial donation and donations of others. Perhaps it would be cool if we could track their donation address through the block explorer and keep a tally of donations on the Aliencoin website

I sent the following email to their donations department:

Quote

I am a member of the Aliencoin community and I was wondering if you would entertain the idea of accepting Aliencoin in the form of a donation. What is Aliencoin you ask... Aliencoin is one of the new cryptocoin currencies that has branched from Bitcoin. Think Bitcoin with an extraterrestrial theme. We hope to develop the currency for use as payment across the internet focused on all things out of this world.

In an effort to promote our coin, we would like to set up a digital wallet on your behalf and donate a lump sum (to be determined) of Aliencoins to it. We would also create an additional address that would be posted to our community and our homepage (still under development) so that all of our supporters would be able to contribute smaller individual donations. We would hope for a small amount of publicity (twitter, blog article, headline on SETI.org, etc) to help further our cause.

We intend to show our community and those that would be willing to invest in our coin that we are striving to achieve great things with this coin. As of now, the coin can be exchanged on two small exchanges for bitcoin which can then be exchanged for fiat currency. Admittedly, trade volumes are low for the time being, however the hope is that the value of the currency will increase over time as the currency matures. It is our marketing efforts and publicity that will help drive the value of the coin up. I would invite you to review http://coinmarketcap.com/ and see for yourself that there are a great number of active cryptocurrencies that have matured into a significant market cap value.

In the future, the donation could turn out to be worth a significant sum if you are willing to take the chance. We are looking for a cause to support and what better cause than SETI. We are more than happy to assist you with setting up your digital Aliencoin wallet. I look forward to your response and please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions regarding this request.

Thank you,

nice action ! +42 Wink

hopefully the dev will read it (in about 5 days ^^)
and start moving Wink

add 5 k aliens from my side ..

miseree

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Perhaps I acted out of turn, but I'm tired of waiting for others to help promote this coin. I've made this suggestion twice previously in this forum with no response. This coin needs several things for success, and I believe one of the more important things is some good old selfless philanthropy. Let this coin be known for generosity and take advantage of the publicity that can be made of that. Without that, this coin will be nothing more than any other failed coin that was created for the purpose generating some income. This is why I reached out to the SETI institute and offered a donation of ALN to support their cause. Their site has a list of several types of donations they are willing to receive and they happen to already take securities which this *could* fall under.

Check out: http://www.seti.org/node/564

DEV...if they are in agreement, then you need to show your support for this coin and this community and make a significant contribution from the premine. This is exactly the kind of stuff that a premine is for. We are also going to need a web site, forum, twitter, etc to promote the initial donation and donations of others. Perhaps it would be cool if we could track their donation address through the block explorer and keep a tally of donations on the Aliencoin website

I sent the following email to their donations department:

Quote

I am a member of the Aliencoin community and I was wondering if you would entertain the idea of accepting Aliencoin in the form of a donation. What is Aliencoin you ask... Aliencoin is one of the new cryptocoin currencies that has branched from Bitcoin. Think Bitcoin with an extraterrestrial theme. We hope to develop the currency for use as payment across the internet focused on all things out of this world.

In an effort to promote our coin, we would like to set up a digital wallet on your behalf and donate a lump sum (to be determined) of Aliencoins to it. We would also create an additional address that would be posted to our community and our homepage (still under development) so that all of our supporters would be able to contribute smaller individual donations. We would hope for a small amount of publicity (twitter, blog article, headline on SETI.org, etc) to help further our cause.

We intend to show our community and those that would be willing to invest in our coin that we are striving to achieve great things with this coin. As of now, the coin can be exchanged on two small exchanges for bitcoin which can then be exchanged for fiat currency. Admittedly, trade volumes are low for the time being, however the hope is that the value of the currency will increase over time as the currency matures. It is our marketing efforts and publicity that will help drive the value of the coin up. I would invite you to review http://coinmarketcap.com/ and see for yourself that there are a great number of active cryptocurrencies that have matured into a significant market cap value.

In the future, the donation could turn out to be worth a significant sum if you are willing to take the chance. We are looking for a cause to support and what better cause than SETI. We are more than happy to assist you with setting up your digital Aliencoin wallet. I look forward to your response and please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions regarding this request.

Thank you,

ShXnot

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i pointed one of my rigs on alien
hope it help
good luck everyone

amdfxman1701

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Yeah, I think this coin is dead unless something changes quickly. UFO coin seems more promising at this moment and it's essential the same coin, though I like the sound of Alien coin more.

miseree

member

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I would be willing to try to help as well.

Dev, please post a list of goals that need to be completed (and bounty if willing) so that those willing to volunteer can pick a task and run with it.

Brightmoe_cat

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Hey guys I don't mind helping with whatever what can I do? I've contacted these ppl about tring to get our coin on their site as well maybe you could talk with them to... https://coins2themoon.com

miseree

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Finally a healthy conversation about the coin. Dev, glad to have you back, I hope you stick around. No one would even be talking takeover if the coin was attended to properly. If you're working away, and can only give your attention to the coin once a week, then you should be delegating others to help keep up. There are a few clear devoted Alien fans from this forum who have offered to help and it seems like you ought to take advantage of it. All we want to know is that the coin is being promoted and given the attention that it deserves. You have the premine resources which gives you the most power. Yes it is also up to the community to generate as much buzz as they can and as you said, those efforts should be rewarded. I can stand behind anyone who is willing to put forth the effort.

cyberminer666

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Quote from: Aliencoin on February 11, 2014, 12:59:28 PM

I have tried and tried to get this coin on an exchange, emails after emails. The coin i think is fine it just needs more activity so a re-start of the coin is just complete pointless.. many people have been mining this coin since day 1 and if a coin relaunch is what you're considering that just shows its a rouge decision and not a community one.. So lets get this straight, No rogue will be relaunching this coin from scratch, yes its an open source but i will do all in my power to stop this cause this is unnecessary and unfair to all the miners.

Ok now thats out of the way, i'll be installing a spam filter & looking for more staff on the forum..

The premine is yes for promotion and bountys, which ive done.. ive noticed many people who have premine pay for there coin to be added to an exchange.. im more than happy to pay a sum of premine to get it onto a well known exchange such as coinedup, coinmarket.io etc.. exchanges people can trust.. I just need there permission and approval of the operators. I can assure you the premine is not for dumping and own personal reasons, its for the coins benefit and future progress.

As previously stated by myself, ive been working away so its been hard.. Looking back the only thing thats been a problem in my eyes is the forum spam which has nothing to do with the coin itself.. i can sort this out. & the coin's activity such as nethashrate and interest.. im willing to distribute premine to people who can promote and get this coin in the media.. do not contact me asking for premine i will only give this out to the people who work hard and show proof of work before hand.

Our goals are to get this coin on a known trusted exchange, media attention, & gaining more miners to increase nethashrate.

I'll be working to make this happen also, but as stated by someone its a community.. we all work together.

ALIEN'S THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER? ITS NOT HAPPENING!

u log in every 7 days and post something , but u done nothing till now.
not even cleaned up the op.

u will prove again u are just talking without doing

vote for wpstudio ^^

Aliencoin

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I have tried and tried to get this coin on an exchange, emails after emails. The coin i think is fine it just needs more activity so a re-start of the coin is just complete pointless.. many people have been mining this coin since day 1 and if a coin relaunch is what you're considering that just shows its a rouge decision and not a community one.. So lets get this straight, No rogue will be relaunching this coin from scratch, yes its an open source but i will do all in my power to stop this cause this is unnecessary and unfair to all the miners.

Ok now thats out of the way, i'll be installing a spam filter & looking for more staff on the forum..

The premine is yes for promotion and bountys, which ive done.. ive noticed many people who have premine pay for there coin to be added to an exchange.. im more than happy to pay a sum of premine to get it onto a well known exchange such as coinedup, coinmarket.io etc.. exchanges people can trust.. I just need there permission and approval of the operators. I can assure you the premine is not for dumping and own personal reasons, its for the coins benefit and future progress.

As previously stated by myself, ive been working away so its been hard.. Looking back the only thing thats been a problem in my eyes is the forum spam which has nothing to do with the coin itself.. i can sort this out. & the coin's activity such as nethashrate and interest.. im willing to distribute premine to people who can promote and get this coin in the media.. do not contact me asking for premine i will only give this out to the people who work hard and show proof of work before hand.

Our goals are to get this coin on a known trusted exchange, media attention, & gaining more miners to increase nethashrate.

I'll be working to make this happen also, but as stated by someone its a community.. we all work together.

ALIEN'S THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER? ITS NOT HAPPENING!

Brightmoe_cat

newbie

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http://www.allcrypt.com/beta/voting.php

Go there and vote the coin I put it on the aliencoin site but I don't think anybody saw it threw all the spam you can vote 10 times a day or pay 50 bucks to get it on there instantly I jus voted lol lets make this happen

Brightmoe_cat

newbie

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Right on I jus went to the site and wow yeah there's hella spam I was jus thinking damn did everyone jus leave lol

wpstudio

hero member

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I'll check back in a day or two to see if the developer has followed through with his promises. Words are one thing... actions are another.

And a quick reminder for everyone... this conversation has been happening out in the open. Nobody is trying to hide things from other people. This is a community trying to rally around a coin that up to this point hasn't seen a lot of support or promotion by the developer.

And if the developer doesn't have time... isn't that what the premine was suppose to take care. To raise the "funds" to pay others to help the coin? So the statement that the community NEEDs to do the promotion and do the work for the coin is pointless if the developer doesn't step up and take the lead... otherwise the premine is seen as a simple way for for the dev to dump their premine as soon as it hits the exchange and walk away from the coin.

The community wants the coin to succeed... but it means nothing if the developer doesn't SHOW they want the coin to succeed.

And remember this is an open source coin... if the community decides they WANT to fork the coin. There is absolutely nothing the dev can do to stop it.

Message to the dev - Please step up and take a more active role in the community. We want you and the coin to succeed. But nobody is going to do the work "for you".

Aliencoin

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The fork will NOT be happening, the reason I haven't been online is due to working away. Someone emailed me about saying someone is trying to do a takeover. Simply won't be happening, later tonight I will be online updating.. the forum will also be implemented with a spam system, sorry I haven't been active but the real owner is back and I'm going to try 110% to make this a success I will also consider kimo gravity well, best regards. Dev.

Crypto King

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This will not work, the community need to stick together and do some promotion work themselves. You can not just change the coin like this as I disagree with what your suggesting.

Yes the devs need more input but that's down to them the community need to do work themselves but not with ideas you are suggesting. But I do appreciate your help.

wpstudio

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Here's my thoughts...

To take complete control of the "coin/community", we would fork the coin. (Implement some additional code to protect the longevity of the coin, KGW and a few other tweaks.) BUT... we want current users of the coin to benefit from their current commitment to the coin. So my proposal is a little unusual and I'm not sure if any alt-community has ever done something like this.

We fork the code. (Actually most of this is already done, I've already forked the github code and been tweaking the codebase, I just need to commit my modifications, KGW implementation, and tweaks to the QT build.)
Before we relaunch the new ALN coin, we have a 24 HOUR redemption period. During this redemption period all users who want to turn in their current version of the ALN coin will be credited a percentage of the total redeemed coins. For example if Bob turns in 200 coins, Mary turns in 100, and Victor turns in 700, then Bob will receive 20% of the premine. Mary will receive 10% of the premine, and Victor receives 70% of the premine.
We will have a predetermined premine of the new ALN coin version. The premine will be used only as a way to distribute the fair work levels that current ALN users have been mining for. So all your hard work for the past month will not be for loss. It will be as if you were "investors" in the new version of the coin.
I already have contacts at a number of groups that promote and host sci-fi conventions and there was strong support when I briefly talked to them about using the new ALN coin as a payment system for sci-fi conventions. This would drive a whole new crowd of people to the coin to mine the coin, trade/purchase the coin so that they could attend a convention. This is something no other coin has achieved (to my knowledge).
Something that was asked of me last night in the IRC, What about the current developer? Didn't he premine 2,000,000 coins? According to my calculations, we are on block 67000(ish) at 40 coins a block. That puts the total coins at around 2.7 million coins in existence. (please correct me if I'm missing something) We could choose to put a limit on the redemption. I don't want to cut anyone out of the "premine/redistribution" process. But does anyone (individually) have more than 500,000 ALN coins? (not talking about the developer who said he took 2 million or something) Because we could always cap the redemption amount of coins during the redemption period.

This is one idea. We could also go in a different direction and create a new coin. But I believe there is still a community that wants this coin to succeed. The last time the developer touched the github code was over a month ago and that isn't going to cut it.

I plan to talk to a number of the pool operators today to get their take on the issue, because many of them have invested time, energy, and money into an unprofitable coin (at this point).

Tomorrow, I have two scheduled "talks" with two exchanges about how they would view the "rebranding/takeover" of a non-traded coin. So I think by Thursday, we will have some answers as to what some of the key players in the current version of ALN will have to say. As for the current developer.... umm we are having this discussion out in the open and I would have thought they/he/she would have stepped up by now to either interject, offer an opinion, quell the masses... but we've heard nothing. I'm not even sure the developer knows these thoughts are being talked about.

What are other people's thoughts?

leetmodz

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Quote from: wpstudio on February 10, 2014, 09:31:51 PM

If the Aliencoin community wants to, I can help fork the code from github, push out a new update which will allow us to chase the development of the coin. I also own alienco.in domain name so we've got something that we could set up ASAP.

Somebody has to do something, I say go for it.

miseree

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Quote from: wpstudio on February 10, 2014, 10:02:24 PM

A splash screen is up on http://alienco.in for now until we decide what we're going to do.

And if you want to have a discussion about the future of the coin. I'm in a new chat room #ALNcoin on Freenode

What would the benefits of forking the coin be? What would happen with coins already mined or would that be starting over?

wpstudio

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A splash screen is up on http://alienco.in for now until we decide what we're going to do.

And if you want to have a discussion about the future of the coin. I'm in a new chat room #ALNcoin on Freenode

wpstudio

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If the Aliencoin community wants to, I can help fork the code from github, push out a new update which will allow us to chase the development of the coin. I also own alienco.in domain name so we've got something that we could set up ASAP.

miseree

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Quote from: wpstudio on February 10, 2014, 05:06:05 PM

I've tried and tried to convince the developer to implement some type of spam filter. I've even suggested plugins and other resources he/she could use. But nothing has been done. They did make me a mod of the forum and I've been volunteering my time (NO PAY - NO COMPENSATION) to try and clean out the forum of spam. But because the developer doesn't take the few minutes to setup a "spam" filter its just about pointless.

I would have been willing to build a fully functional and beneficial site for the community, but if the developer(s) are so disattached from the coin that they don't care what happens to their simple forum they threw up on a site, why should I invest any additional time or energy trying to help, promote, and support a coin that at this moment has no value at all.

I come back to the forum after 12+ hours away and there are over 22 pages of spam on the forum alone...

Where is the developer?

If you want a coin to succeed you MUST be a part of the community and the coin.

Thanks for your time on the forum. I agree with you completely. I have pm'd the dev a few days ago and no response. I'm inclined to believe that we've been left out in the cold on this one.

Although...I don't necessarily believe that we NEED the dev to be involved. We're all sitting around waiting for the dev to make the moves, but honestly, we as the community could accomplish just as much. This is an open source coin and it's been unleashed on a p2p network. The dev has no official ties to it other than the 2M premine (and perhaps the twitter acct and aliencoin.org url).

Is there by chance a group of supporters of this coin that could be willing to take over? We know we need a site and then we need to generate some attention. That's pretty much how DOGE got so huge....they stood for a cause and were able to get the support. In an earlier post, I proposed that we might consider setting SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) up with a wallet and the community could donate ALN to support them. I had assumed that the dev would be willing to contribute a significant donation from the premine, but I'm not sure we'll get that. We could make all kinds of noise to get noticed on the forums, twitter, facebook, and maybe even the SETI site.

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