Topic: [ANN] Nxtopia -- a MMORPG built on-top of the NXT network - page 3. (Read 11980 times)

There is no such thing

If you are going to win items that are worth NXT then you will need to put in NXT to pay for these items.
Its not like the producers are going to load a server with 1000NXT worth of prices and just give them all away? Somehow there needs to be funding for this.



AE should be properly considered for items. IF lumber, gold, stone, steel, etc are issued assets. There will have to be a FINITE supply, and if we are talking proof of burn for forging, then forget running out of toilet paper, we could run out of steel, glass, etc.

I think for resources we should consider the minecraft example, with infinite raw resources that you can earn. sand, dirt, wood, rock, ore, silver, gold and diamonds. Just remove the grinding nature of hammering bricks, and in its place make a time setting, like

"you have come across a vein of ore, do you wish to mine it?" and it will put according wear on your shovel, pick or sword and take a factor of time (24 hours say) and at the end of that produce Xgold, Xiron, etc..  

Def need a ASIC Pick Axe +1. works well but gets hot and is outdated quickly. ha.


Then same with forging items. There can be certain workshop sets, that can build all kinds of items, but they will be specialized.
Lvl 1 Workshop costs 1000 lumber 1000 stone and can produce simple things. Wood logs, stone blocks, good for castles.
This workshop can be upgraded, with a choice of specialties, that lead to more and more specific and advanced technologies
Logs to Lumber Mill can split to furniture, or arrows leading to fine carpentry or war machines, etc.
A player could hire NPCs to run these things even. A NPC could gain skills in specific trades and you could maybe even sell a well trained NPCs contract if say he was a Lvl10 blacksmith.


I know i'm over brainstorming this whole thing but ideas are flooding in.. I think an important thing is make a roadmap for features, and we do not have to have them prepared, but planned to roll out if needed.

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I have played a lot, but haven't come across this before. Sorry.

I sense that we are becoming feature creeped at the moment, and it's beginning to affect the discussion. Is that a shared sentiment?
Maybe it's time to split efforts in separate directions: one going towards a first attainable plan, and on the other hand to keep brainstorming.

It's still very new, but we now have ideas to work for years!

How's the idea to start planning on the one hand and keep gathering ideas on the other where both efforts feed each other?

This is the stage where normally writers would start on very rough first drafts to make sure they don't stay in "dreaming" stage.

Nothing set in stone yet, but a first draft would give some structure.

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MMORPG with internal currency and crypto currency support.
Some tips:
Don't forget good async to support I2P/TOR
Support the encrypted connexion
Anti DDOS/brute force

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1) AM's will be used very irregularly. Probably like once if you update your nick-name, guild-name, stuff like that.
2) This is not a problem. All "hot" assets are stored server-side. In order to sell an asset, you have to transfer that asset to your personal NXT account.
3) Mining will work by PoC + PoA + PoL (Proof of Character + Proof of Asset + Proof of Location). For example, you need a valid NXT account with a character attached, with a mining pick, in order to mine some ore.

1) I understand that for every AM're obligated to pay 1 NXT, you can not "free replace" the content.
2) It is possible that if the AE can be adapted to the exchange of objects, but how do you plan to do that with the NPCs of the game?
3) I do not either, so ask! How mining work?

Regards!

1) AMs will only be used to store misc. data if the player wants to export/import data. Most likely (with the current min. fee) we'll keep most data on the server. Only items will be tied to the asset exchange.
2) Imo, interfacing directly with the AE provides a very unique link between the economies. Plus, all asset trading, distribution, etc. is public. Assets can even be traded even if you are not in-game, as long as the asset is in your account.
3) Not sure what you mean here.

You're welcome to contribute your ideas! We're still very much looking for talented devs

Agree with point 1, disagree with point 2, don't understand point 3.

I have several years of experience in the development of mmorpg games.
But there are some things I am not convinced:

1) Using the Arbitrary Messages to store the player, that means one NXT by every time you play? is unfeasible.
2) Asset Exchange to trade items? would be easier if I had an own exchange system with NPC trading.
3) Not meant as mining work.

I have not seen a concept of how the game should look. Points of the expectations of the idea are, in my opinion, very little practical.

Regards

Nxtopia -- MMORPG built on-top of the NXT network

current bounty: 25,500 NXT

5000 - jl777
1000 - swartzfeger (Transaction id: 12550164158045962834)
3000 - chanc3r (Transaction id: 5658009271669858297)
1000 - MyZhre (Transaction id: 8826881503135433086)
3000 - Damelon (Transaction id: 17094914052077797717)
1000 - DrearyUrbanite (Transaction id: 5539495976647418930)
1000 - brooklynbtc (Transaction id: 7928426557842646935)
0500 - rdanneskjoldr (Transaction id: 91193539943795488)
5000 - msin (Transaction id: 3011638676023709764)
0500 - EvilDave (Transaction id: 1103023256425459700)
2500 - LiQio (Transaction id: 17259695350230030848)
1000 - Pandaisftw (Transaction id: 16708576594121402630)
1000 - eb101 (Transaction id: 11083404370711498345)
xxxx - ChuckOne [will support once mixing/zerocoin is in place]

This is an opportunity to support an online game that leverages many of Nxt's advanced features, one of the highlights being a user-driven crafting economy.

Donations can be sent to 13776816462073143763; please include tx id so I can include it when updating this post and making it easier for James to keep track of incoming transactions.

We're also considering implementing a kickstarter-style tier system for bounty donators. These would be cosmetic rewards that wouldn't be available after game launch. Something like:

10 NXT - badge
100 NXT - cap
1000 NXT - cape
10000 NXT - beta access (?)

Depending on how we handle character death/respawning, these items may be also confer a quicker resurrection.

Agreed. This will be OUR game. Particular servers could compete for certain players that become well-known for their well crafted story-quests. Maybe even a little famous (in our own little fish bowl), like a hollywood director or bestselling author.

Do you know what this means? This is really helping creative people!

This is no pathetic try like intellectual property laws or societies like GEMA (Germany).

It's real reimbursement for real artists. Great.

+1000

ROI would be optimal, but honestly -- I don't think we're anywhere near where we need to be, bounty-wise.

Twin raised 25k for the reddit tipbot, the same amount we have now.

Our client will be at least 3-4x the amount of work as the reddit project (and I'm probably wildly underestimating that number). And that's just code. We need quality artwork as well.

I think the minimum we need is 75,000 -- 50,000 for development, 25,000 for artwork.

And that wouldn't cover story/worldbuilding, project design/management, community manager, server and other miscellanea. Ideally, I think 100,000 would be a solid starting point.

ROI? I don't think we can expect returns at this point, and only hope for cool, unique swag that no one else will have.

Maybe I'm being a sourpuss and someone will step up and take the 25,000. So far no takers, but we haven't really pushed it either.

waiting for release date

i think its safe to say this is a donation to the bounty fund for the hard workers building this, but I think an important part of the development will be to create a "server template" where anyone can make their own quest, realm, or world.

Since this is decentralized it should be free for anyone to issue an asset and create a server.

The servers can all pay a small fee to link to the "central island"

On the central island people can open armor shops, mercenaries etc..

Through these add ons we can make our ROI>..

totally agree on PPI, lets back of the envelope some numbers...

What if you could expect to "earn" 50% back from playing in the short term. That is, you go into a quest and should expect to make 50% on average of what it cost you to enter the level. Remember this is a game. For fun. Not profit the first minute you play.

However once you improve your char, you could expect an increase on your ROI for playing, and with chance, even take a profit by finding, winning, or forging some special items.

I guess if you forged a "Vorpal Sword of Power +10" with 1000 diamonds (1NXT each), and 1000 magic beans (9NXT each) taking 2 weeks time, for combined value of 10000NXT, you would be burning those items, and PoW creating that item. The item would have a default value of 10000NXT but its rareness would push up the value on the buyers market.

Speculators could buy 10000 Diamonds 10000 Beans for 100,000 NXT and burn those items to make "Vorpal Oppenheimer Sword of Death +100", but if no one will pay more than 100,000NXT thats the creators loss. The more an item costs, the longer it should take to make, so your early adopter deep pocket type will still have to wait 6 months for this +100 sword, and many things may change in the meantime.  

The fees paid would cover network, and fund the growth and allow for profit taking

Question about the game play, It won't be reliant on NXT transactions, other than for payouts, so their wont be a need for thousands of NXT transactions, or waiting for next blocks right?

We are considering to give donors (depending on how much they donated) cosmetic items. So 100 NXT would get you a hat, 1000 NXT a cape, etc. These items will be assets, and they will be very rare after game launch. So take it how you will.

We have not set in stone what we will be offering yet. Personally, I prefer to have at least some progress made before making promises to people. Right now, anything donated is just that, a donation. These donations will help entice quality and talented devs + artists to join our team and bring this project into reality.

To make it clear, if you donate now, we will retroactively apply these bonuses to you if/when we do start this type of fundraiser.

what happens if I make a donation? Can I make a ROI, or is it just a donation?

Most of the operations will be done serverside, only items (armor, schematics, etc) can be stored as assets, which makes sense because you can trade them. Originally we wanted to to do it all on the chain, but unless parallel chains are implemented (James said not in the near future) the fees would be way too high.


Gold, diamonds and all other in-game currency will have value because they will be used to make things. If the best weapon in the game "Supersword" costs 100 Crystals and 50 Unobtainium Bars, you can be sure those materials will be extremely expensive and extremely hard to get.

We discussed extremely cool ideas on the IRC, just a few here:

There can be a central island where PvP is enabled. However, the best resources spawn here, so there will be massive competition to mine these raw resources. In addition, we can make random monsters spawn as well have natural disasters every 100 blocks or so. In short, this place will be extremely hectic. And if you die, because we are using the "coin" concept for raw materials, you will drop the resources you just mined. So there will be a huge incentive for entire guilds (or even factions) to work together and protect their miners while attacking the opponent's miners to steal their resources.

Another great idea is to introduce the idea of supply lines, aka trade routes. If you have to send resources from Iron Smelter to Armor Smith, it won't just instantly transport there. A caravan will set out, and there is always a risk that someone may loot it. So you have to protect it. If your business is big enough, you can even built forts along your trade route to protect your goods. This will remove the tedium of "Click this button" from crafting, and add a strategic aspect (you cannot just send your caravans wherever willy-nilly without checking, you have to research and pick the best and most safe route).

As for the player-made quest idea, obviously there would have to be extremely strict guidelines. One solution that I can think of it not to have an arbitrary reward for the quest. The game would determine what kind of monsters (the more difficult, the more reward), how long it takes (rather, how big the dungeon is, time can be gamed), and how much the player contributed to that particular run.

IMO, player-made quests should be added later. Most games don't have it now, so it's definitely not an easy thing to balance.



The coins in game could be generated using PoC + PoA + PoL (Proof of Character + Proof of Asset + Proof of Location). With this system, you have to have a valid character in the right place with the right tool (next to a "rock" with a "pick" to mine ore). Every block you would have some % chance to mine a coin ("ore"). You then have to take this ore-coin to a smelter and refine it through Proof of Burn and then the player will be rewarded with the refined asset.