[ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading - page 4.

Aktarus

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Quote from: Cookie.Monsters on December 06, 2019, 04:03:07 PM

After reviewing the PAC masternode network, there appears to be a few masternodes suffering from performance issues due to excessive peer connections. The PDF linked below shows the potentially affected masternodes. PAC Global team suggests updating to the newest wallet version available (b5cdfa551) as it reduces the required amount of intra-masternode (or quorum) connections to a moderate amount, without affecting network security.

A few? Really? Be precise Cookiess. It'sannoying to always correct you. But well you re used to following the way the team manage business (promoting exchanges with fake data, a fake youtube video with fake 15k subs, etc.)

1200 Vs 5000 is not few to me.

Think twice before investing to $pac guys Especially when you know they mint coins.
#litecoinfam #blockchain #Crypto #paccoin https://t.co/mVICDB23uS

rodrigobitcoin

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The 3 december i have withdraw 549.765 PAcglobal from graviex. In the same day i have send 150.000 pac to stakecube address, and i see 399.765 in my wallet.
today i open wallet and see balance 0 and a incoming transiction MINTED from 7 december with 0 confirmation. Later this transiction, all my pac disappered. Why ?
this is my address
http://explorer.pacglobal.io/address/PTRtsckgse21ZgjtLqAjeM2qgCcNvmxZW4

Aktarus

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Quote from: Cookie.Monsters on December 09, 2019, 06:29:11 PM

Quote from: Aktarus on December 09, 2019, 06:20:28 PM

As usual... you try to muddy the waters. Twist, twist...

The fact is Pac is a decentralized and a private blockchain belonging to a private company, belonging to a narcissistic CEO, now.
So I recommend anyone to think twice before investing to pac global.
There is hundreds of better project, lead by real professionals.
I feel bad for that guy who just lost 800k pac from a banned address (cryptopia). Coz if the court who is in charge of the liquidation release the coins, he will not be able to receive them anyway. If there was a little chance for him to recover, now it's definitely dead thanks to Drew's blind politics.

You are the one consistently getting things wrong (on purpose or not) - every second post of mine is about simply correcting your mistakes and misinterpretations.
For that reason, literally nothing you say or write can be taken as a fact, and needs to be checked and re-checked.

Now you show your real face. Attacking the form, typos, etc... To discredite my arguments.
That just shows that I am 100% true. You can't attack the arguments so you attack the form.
Basically, this chinese expression concerns you directly: "When a Wise Man Points at the Moon, The Fool Looks at the Finger"
Do you really think people are that stupid cookiess?
Soon Cookiess you will see a bunch of beautiful and well written articles about Pac, and how it is decentralized. As well as how the CEO is in conflict of interest.

Thanks me later

Cookie.Monsters

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Quote from: Aktarus on December 09, 2019, 06:20:28 PM

As usual... you try to muddy the waters. Twist, twist...

The fact is Pac is a decentralized and a private blockchain belonging to a private company, belonging to a narcissistic CEO, now.
So I recommend anyone to think twice before investing to pac global.
There is hundreds of better project, lead by real professionals.
I feel bad for that guy who just lost 800k pac from a banned address (cryptopia). Coz if the court who is in charge of the liquidation release the coins, he will not be able to receive them anyway. If there was a little chance for him to recover, now it's definitely dead thanks to Drew's blind politics.

You are the one consistently getting things wrong (on purpose or not) - every second post of mine is about simply correcting your mistakes and misinterpretations.
For that reason, literally nothing you say or write can be taken as a fact, and needs to be checked and re-checked.

Aktarus

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As usual... you try to muddy the waters. Twist, twist...

The fact is Pac is a decentralized and a private blockchain belonging to a private company, belonging to a narcissistic CEO, now.
So I recommend anyone to think twice before investing to pac global.
There is hundreds of better project, lead by real professionals.
I feel bad for that guy who just lost 800k pac from a banned address (cryptopia). Coz if the court who is in charge of the liquidation release the coins, he will not be able to receive them anyway. If there was a little chance for him to recover, now it's definitely dead thanks to Drew's blind politics.

Cookie.Monsters

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Quote from: Aktarus on December 09, 2019, 05:14:30 PM

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Well, it is not a paper "from" University of Zürich - only one of the authors appears to be from ETH Zürich actually, and not from University of Zürich.

Does it hurts?
It is usual that the research is first awarded to the uni of the research leader, which is here M. Gervais from ETH Zürich.

ETH Zurich is a science, technology, engineering and mathematics university in the city of Zürich, Switzerland... In the 2020 edition of the QS World University Rankings ETH Zurich has been ranked 6th in the world (2nd in Europe after the University of Oxford),[6] which represents a one place improvement compared to the 2019 edition,[7] and is also ranked 13th in the world by the Times Higher Education World Rankings 2018 (4th in Europe after Oxbridge and Imperial College London).

But if you prefer, you can award this research to the third school: HEC Paris... Which is one of the most famous and prestigious french shool of business, ask Maciej if you don't believe me Grin

No seriously Cookiess, do not play this denial game here...

It is interesting how (over)confident you are - here is the explanation - do read carefully:

1. University of Zürich is a separate entity from ETH Zürich - you are still mixing them up. The named author is (or was at the time the paper was published) from ETH Zürich and not from University of Zürich, as claimed by you.

2. Nobody tried to say that ETH Zürich is bad - it is indeed famous and more known than the University of Zürich. You simply misunderstood and thought that I am trying to marginalise its importance / quality, while I was just pointing to another mistake of your "research".

3. Just to correct you again: the grant holder/hosting laboratory head is normally the last author of a research paper. Hence the research gets assigned normally to the last author's institution (and not first), unless it is a joint research / review paper of fellow peers where this matters less (for more information, please read the following article from one of the most famous / quoted science journals out there (next to Nature):
https://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2010/04/conventions-scientific-authorship)

Again, I am not trying to dispute the quality of the institutions, I am simply observing that your attempts to understand and convey even the simplest facts are full of your mistakes and misinterpretations.

Aktarus

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Well, it is not a paper "from" University of Zürich - only one of the authors appears to be from ETH Zürich actually, and not from University of Zürich.

Does it hurts?
It is usual that the research is first awarded to the uni of the research leader, which is here Dr. Gervais from ETH Zürich.

ETH Zurich is a science, technology, engineering and mathematics university in the city of Zürich, Switzerland... In the 2020 edition of the QS World University Rankings ETH Zurich has been ranked 6th in the world (2nd in Europe after the University of Oxford),[6] which represents a one place improvement compared to the 2019 edition,[7] and is also ranked 13th in the world by the Times Higher Education World Rankings 2018 (4th in Europe after Oxbridge and Imperial College London).

But if you prefer, you can award this research to the third school: HEC Paris... Which is one of the most famous and prestigious french shool of business, ask Maciej if you don't believe me Grin

No seriously Cookiess, do not play this denial game here...

Cookie.Monsters

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Quote from: Aktarus on December 09, 2019, 12:34:45 PM

Following what Drew (Mister know-it-all but knows nothing) says about tainting coins does not make the blockchain centralized, I would like you to read this part of a research paper from the University of Zurich, about the decentralization of the bitcoin. This applies to Pac also and any coins.

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"Coin Tainting
Given that Bitcoin transactions basically consist of a chain of digital signatures, the expenditure of individual coins can be publicly tracked. This enables any entity to “taint” coins that belong to aspecific (set of) addresses and monitor their expenditure across the network. The literature features a number of proposals that cluster Bitcoin addresses, and gather behavioural information about these addresses.
Coin tainting is currently used to achieve a degree of accountability in the Bitcoin network; if an address misbehaves, then Bitcoin users can decide to stop interacting with the address (i.e.,not accepting its coins), thus deflating the value of all the coins pertaining to that address. For instance, following a theft of 43,000 BTCs from the Bitcoin trading platform Bitcoinica, the Bitcoin service MtGox traced the stolen BTC and locked accounts that were receiving the tainted coins.These incidents show that powerful entities in Bitcoin can—rightfully or not—deflate the value of BTCs owned by specific addresses. If these entities were to cooperate with the handful of developers that have privileged rights in the system, then all Bitcoin users can be warned not to accept BTCs that pertain from a given address (e.g., using alert messages).
Even worse, developers can hard-code a list of banned Bitcoin addresses within the official Bitcoin client releases, thus blocking all interactions with a given Bitcoin address without the consent of users. Furthermore, while coin tainting can be used to “punish” provably misbehaving addresses, it could also be abused to control the financial flows in the network subject to government pressure,but also due to social activism. This empowers few powerful entities that are not necessarily part of the Bitcoin network, such as governments and activists, to regulate the Bitcoin economy. Even if all Bitcoin decisions and operations were completely decentralized—which they are not—coin tainting presents an obstacle to a truly decentralized Bitcoin.
Coin tainting can be especially detrimental if coins are not widely exchanged among Bitcoin addresses. This enables entities to damage only a specific set of addresses, without alienating other addresses in the system. Other users are then also likely to “boycott” the tainted coins."

I recommend you to read this research paper from here:
https://eprint.iacr.org/2013/829.pdf

Well, it is not a paper "from" University of Zürich - only one of the authors appears to be from ETH Zürich actually, and not from University of Zürich.

To the point though: yes, the ability to ban addresses is an inherent property of any blockchain cryptocurrency out there. In my opinion: not banning addresses involved in theft (or any other serious crime) is not really an option, since cryptocurrency should not be financial safe haven for crime, regardless what effects it has on (de)centralisation. The true issue lies when developers of a closed source cryptocurrency project would hide the fact that addresses got banned since this is, mildly put, prone to manipulation with no transparency (even if in some cases the intention might be good). Beyond that, there is always a question on what authority has an address been declared a "criminal" one and got banned from the network - ideally one would have a court order for that, but which court has the expertise and jurisdiction over a world-wide used blockchain with coin owners spread over many continents and countries, particularly if the owner(s) of the addresses are unknown...?

macish

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YEP. This applies to BITCOIN and any coin???
I knew it!!!! BITCOIN is a SCAM then

Aktarus

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Following what Drew (Mister know-it-all but knows nothing) says about tainting coins does not make the blockchain centralized, I would like you to read this part of a research paper from the University of Zurich, about the decentralization of the bitcoin. This applies to Pac also and any coins.

Quote

"Coin Tainting
Given that Bitcoin transactions basically consist of a chain of digital signatures, the expenditure of individual coins can be publicly tracked. This enables any entity to “taint” coins that belong to aspecific (set of) addresses and monitor their expenditure across the network. The literature features a number of proposals that cluster Bitcoin addresses, and gather behavioural information about these addresses.
Coin tainting is currently used to achieve a degree of accountability in the Bitcoin network; if an address misbehaves, then Bitcoin users can decide to stop interacting with the address (i.e.,not accepting its coins), thus deflating the value of all the coins pertaining to that address. For instance, following a theft of 43,000 BTCs from the Bitcoin trading platform Bitcoinica, the Bitcoin service MtGox traced the stolen BTC and locked accounts that were receiving the tainted coins.These incidents show that powerful entities in Bitcoin can—rightfully or not—deflate the value of BTCs owned by specific addresses. If these entities were to cooperate with the handful of developers that have privileged rights in the system, then all Bitcoin users can be warned not to accept BTCs that pertain from a given address (e.g., using alert messages).
Even worse, developers can hard-code a list of banned Bitcoin addresses within the official Bitcoin client releases, thus blocking all interactions with a given Bitcoin address without the consent of users. Furthermore, while coin tainting can be used to “punish” provably misbehaving addresses, it could also be abused to control the financial flows in the network subject to government pressure,but also due to social activism. This empowers few powerful entities that are not necessarily part of the Bitcoin network, such as governments and activists, to regulate the Bitcoin economy. Even if all Bitcoin decisions and operations were completely decentralized—which they are not—coin tainting presents an obstacle to a truly decentralized Bitcoin.
Coin tainting can be especially detrimental if coins are not widely exchanged among Bitcoin addresses. This enables entities to damage only a specific set of addresses, without alienating other addresses in the system. Other users are then also likely to “boycott” the tainted coins."

I recommend you to read this research paper from here:
https://eprint.iacr.org/2013/829.pdf

Aktarus

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Vodka in sight

Santibanes

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Quote from: PAC_Brad on December 08, 2019, 07:25:46 PM

Quote from: Santibanes on December 03, 2019, 08:46:01 AM

Quote from: Aktarus on December 03, 2019, 05:03:09 AM

I have invested 5000 dollars because of Brad's promising.

Your problems with Brad are your problems with Brad.
Many people know that Brad is Bisexual.
And the fact that you communicated so closely with him indicates a certain informality in your relationship.
Perhaps you are taking revenge PAC Global for him, because he was kicked out of the team for unprofessionalism,
and you take this as a personal offense.
Do not confuse personal relationships with Business.

Lol.... what!!?? What even is this comment. This is beyond funny. Apparently I'm bisexual now.

Are you not?
Sorry, when several people talk about this ... this is your choice.
Explain where you spent millions of PAC that you received for marketing through DAO?

PAC_Brad

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Quote from: Santibanes on December 03, 2019, 08:46:01 AM

Quote from: Aktarus on December 03, 2019, 05:03:09 AM

I have invested 5000 dollars because of Brad's promising.

Your problems with Brad are your problems with Brad.
Many people know that Brad is Bisexual.
And the fact that you communicated so closely with him indicates a certain informality in your relationship.
Perhaps you are taking revenge PAC Global for him, because he was kicked out of the team for unprofessionalism,
and you take this as a personal offense.
Do not confuse personal relationships with Business.

Lol.... what!!?? What even is this comment. This is beyond funny. Apparently I'm bisexual now.

Cookie.Monsters

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REMINDER: The last (and hopefully greatest!) PAC community meeting of the year 2019 is scheduled for tomorrow!

Date: December 9th, 5 PM EST - 9 PM GMT - 10 PM UTC
Place: Please join the HQ-Conference Audio chat that is located underneath #conference-questions channel of the PAC discord server (invite https://discord.gg/Bx2HKfy).

Please use conference questions channel as your AMA (ask me anything), but please keep it reasonable and professional. These are questions for directors and direct questions to Drew - if you have some reasonable suggestions and we find them appropriate to be read aloud on the live conference call, we will air your question or suggestion live for the YouTube video that the PAC Global team plans to publish.

Hopefully until then!

Cookie.Monsters

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After reviewing the PAC masternode network, there appears to be a few masternodes suffering from performance issues due to excessive peer connections. The PDF linked below shows the potentially affected masternodes. PAC Global team suggests updating to the newest wallet version available (b5cdfa551) as it reduces the required amount of intra-masternode (or quorum) connections to a moderate amount, without affecting network security.

The PDF can be found here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373842836862533632/652612283532312595/PACaudit-02122019.pdf

For the newest version of the wallet, as always, please visit: https://www.pacglobal.io/wallets.html
(Other builds are still being added to this release, so please exercise patience.)

Aktarus

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Quote from: Serik_1408 on December 06, 2019, 10:25:12 AM

don't mention me in your chatter, people may lay down the wrong opinion about me.
I never communicated with you personally, but I supported your proposal to test the global boost SMS application for vulnerability. It seemed to me that you support Pac, I do not know why you changed your mind. I totally disagree with you!
and thank you for understanding

Hi Serik, Yes I was a big supporter of Pac project, until the cowboy Drew became CEO and start shooting on every direction like a drunk guy (drunk on power). And yeah I remember you supported me at that time.

Serik_1408

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don't mention me in your chatter, people may lay down the wrong opinion about me.
I never communicated with you personally, but I supported your proposal to test the global boost SMS application for vulnerability. It seemed to me that you support Pac, I do not know why you changed your mind. I totally disagree with you!
and thank you for understanding

Aktarus

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Thank you for you wasting your time writing all this text and to answer to a such bad guy like me, who has nothing and blahblahblah...
One last thing before I ignore you, if I am insignificant, so why are you all losing your control here? Huh

Just ignore me. Or maybe you feel that my arguments have valid points...
kiss

Santibanes

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AngryBeur, just saw your tweeter and much about you became clear.
Your whole tweeter is filled with negativity,
recently to PAC Global, earlier to another coin.
You have more than 300 followers on your twitter, and all of your hate messages have an average of 1 like.
This indicates that people either do not agree with you, or these are not real accounts.
Apparently this is your essence, any project has haters.
Criticizing is much easier than creating anything.
You are apparently a mediocre programmer who cannot make himself known by writing good code.
People who are good at game dev., realize themselves through such projects as GTA, Witcher, Crisis, etc., you pour mud and hate on Twitter all those who you do not like.
Obviously you can't write anything but a "snake" copy.
You cannot gain fame by becoming part of any project, helping him to become better thanks to your work, because it is more hard and most likely, and you cannot do it.
Based on the fact that your tweeter is a bunch of negativity, most likely in life you behave the same way, I can assume that
you no have friends, no girlfriend, no one wants to connect your life with such negative person.
I think you pour out your bile in the network and thus it becomes smaller in your real life,
it’s like therapy for you, a necessity to make your life more acceptable.
So go on, go to all the sites and write, You can’t changed.
I am sure its true, some people wrote to you.
Even if you sing horribly in karaoke, you will still have several fans.
So here, most likely these people are not interested in PAC or any cripto, since there is a lot of information in the public domain,
and they themselves can check and find out everything.
They are interested in you, your hatred of the world, they like it.

Cookie.Monsters

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Quote from: Aktarus on December 06, 2019, 04:10:17 AM

Quote from: Cookie.Monsters on December 06, 2019, 12:25:33 AM

Quote from: Aktarus on December 05, 2019, 11:31:00 PM

What???
At the moment the price for 500K $PAC is $103
Folgory propose to sell these 500k at 4/5 times the real price!!!! Who is stupid enough to buy 1 masternode while you can buy 4 on exchange.
Who is stupid enough to shill that scam? Except the one drunk of Vodka, nobody will use that scam, fortunately.

Have you missed the second sentence of the announcement for this service stating:

"Prices run as the average price over a time period, so be sure to compare prices. But for those wanting to onboard into cryptocurrency, you now can use your debit/credit card. As simple as that! "

The PAC price varied from 0.00016 to 0.001 USD in the last month, 0.001 USD bringing the price of a masternode (= 500k PAC) to 500 USD. The current average price for 500k PAC according to CMC is not 103 but 163 USD.

In Graviex, I can get 500k $pac for 105$. Youlike it or not, that's the reality.

I am certain Folgory (or any other similar service for any other coin) is not using (only) Graviex to pull prices. Besides, on the next day, the price will be different and perhaps lower on another PAC exchange.
And yes, you can almost always achieve a better price by manually looking for just about anything you can buy online or in a store with or without a credit card - nobody is denying that.

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