Topic: [ANN] [POW] [XHV] Haven Protocol - untraceable payments x stable value storage - page 23. (Read 71616 times)

Yes, the math doesn't make sense at all. "If the price goes down, we simply produce more tokens." I mean... What?

It's sad to see that this isn't addressed more here.

I don't know, I have the feeling that the whole forum is kinda going to shit. Back when I started in 2016, there were endless technical discussions. Now, you have 3 bot posts, one guy asking how much collateral you need for a masternode, another when the ICO is and the rest is mining pool advertisements.

I don't like Slack, Telegram and Discord. I think for a meaningful conversation, they are too noisy. That' what forums should be for...

I haven't looked too much into Maker. Isn't the idea that they are heavily overcollateralized or something? I mean, I somewhat agree with you and honestly, I fing the idea of a stablecoin completely overrated. Get to mass adoption and it shouldn't be a problem anymore.

They are addressing the hardest problems in crypto with juvenile solutions...
The whole things is based on circular logic a college freshman would spot in 30 seconds...
Just apply semi-extreme scenarios to their "ideas" and you get KABOOM..
But, somehow, they've got big time spec miners Twitter shilling... it makes you wonder about the education system.

"Working on it" = bolting shit on to a mathematically unsound solution does not improve it...
Frankly, I don't think Maker is much better... there IS a better approach to stability staring people in the face.

Haven got hacked from nanex. https://medium.com/@nanex/haven-protocol-exploit-and-what-were-doing-to-prevent-further-attacks-e9a40e822727

It's a great opportunity to get some XHV!
For some reason people are selling, but they should know that they will hardly have a chance to find Haven at these prices in the near future.

Haven Protocol Weekly Report #3
… and the third weekly report is out!
This was probably the most important week for Haven since its debut as the first Testnet was released on August 16th.
https://medium.com/@lowmarketcap/haven-protocol-weekly-report-3-4b8bfafee857

I just downloaded the wallet. And I have a question: Should I start a local node? or should I need to start it with a remote node? Which is better between the two? Which will make the wallet synchronize faster? If a remote node is better, can anybody direct me on where to fine the remote node? or should the remote node needs also to be my node? I don't have much idea about this. Thanks for any help.

Aug 2
https://medium.com/coinmonks/haven-testnet-explained-paving-the-road-to-an-anonymous-swiss-bank-account-in-your-pocket-288a52039c14
Haven Testnet will launch within 2 weeks from now.


It will be two weeks in a little more but is it ready?
The coin specification is similar to ZUCC COIN.
Although currently it is expected, there is nothing superior to ZUCC COIN.
It may crash when Offshore Storage goes away.

Nice. Honestly, I wouldn't keep huge balances on TradeOgre but damn that site is nice. No bullshit, just coins and trades, low fees, and it just works

Aug 2
https://medium.com/coinmonks/haven-testnet-explained-paving-the-road-to-an-anonymous-swiss-bank-account-in-your-pocket-288a52039c14

Is it time for the testnet to start coming soon?

My big concern with Haven is the small amount of coins they pre mined. There is really only one dev and I’m not sure how they going to fund this massive task at hand. It’s far too much work for one dev.

I think their heart is in the right place, but unless I missed something and the way they plan to implement their stable coin changed, there are some serious problems with their approach. I'm not even going back to the oracle problem again, which I still think is mostly unsolved (not only for XHV, but for any project).

Here is what I wonder and what hasn't really been explained well enough:

The main preimse is that if I "offshore", say, 500 XHV and when I want to "onshore" them and the XHV price halved, I get 1000 XHV back. To actually extract the value, I would need to market sell them, but this only works if there is enough liquidity. XHV is critically dependent on becoming a high marketcap, highly traded cryptocurrency, because if they are not, there is no way to onshore decently big funds without losing most of their value. And this means that one of their main premises, that users are able to safely store value without the risk of volatility simply doesn't work. I mean, if I offshore XHV, I am essentially taking a bet that XHV will stay relevant in the future. And, well, if I buy any coin, I am making the exact same bet.

I realize that they now have a two tokens approach, but I assume the way the stable tokens are backed hasn't changed. Which keeps all the issues they had before still intact.

As I said, maybe I missed something, so if I did, feel free to correct me. But don't gat back with the usual "team is working on it, no worries" nonsense.

Hello, I'm having problems with the restoration of access to the wallet.

A home computer writes: Please check your purse log and daemon for errors. You can also try to run havend.exe manually.

Then I decided to restore the purse on another computer with the help of seed phrases

I write a new wallet: ---------------------------
Error
Characters not from the ASCII table are not allowed in the path to the wallet or account name

When I specify the path without Russian symbols, the wallet to me writes:
---------------------------
Error
---------------------------
failed to save file "C: /Users/Юлия/AppData/Local/Temp/haven.Uh3472.keys"
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

It turns out that whichever way I indicated the purse will still try to write the file in the way with Russian characters

It is similar to ETN exchanging with USDT at cryptopia
Cryptopia doesn't require identity verification, and ETN is a non-traceable coin.
It can keep anonymity.
It is also possible to exchange USDT for coins other than ETN.

XHV is one of the rare projects with a great team and things are developing and a great time! This morning I bought some XHV and I'll be doing it until the end of this month! Waiting for good things here. Haven applications will be very interesting and more interesting will be the market reaction, the Top 100 CMC will be a simple reality.

Features:

- Mining to exchange

- Workers

- Adjustable instant payout levels

- Email and telegram notifications

- SSL


Telegram channel EN : https://t.me/joinchat/B-GpfU1DYnzi5mhQ45I3rQ
Telegram channel RU : https://t.me/joinchat/B-GpfUYWGEzx89L1N10Vzg

They got a nice Monero fork working, but that's it.

The "stablecoin algo" looks like something an 18 yo college freshman drew up on a napkin...
It's full of circular logic that would flunk you out of Econ 101 or Stats 101 or CompSc 101, lol

It's obvious that @notsofast did not get very far in university.

Vote XHV https://twitter.com/AltlookOrg/status/1026127548416061441?s=20

Vote!

Haven Protocol has been added to the Safe.Trade coin voting page.



https://safecoin.org/coinvoting/

Best of luck to you!