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Topic: [ANN] [PPC] PPCoin Released! - First Long-Term Energy-Efficient Crypto-Currency - page 69. (Read 684864 times)

hero member
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Question: why does my wallet not show the correct amount? It should be around 8200 but only shows 1800 (and some 6400 as 'stake')?



No offense but how do you have so many coins and not understand one of the most special things about them  Cheesy
legendary
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Question: why does my wallet not show the correct amount? It should be around 8200 but only shows 1800 (and some 6400 as 'stake')?



You are rich!! Can you please send me some ppc? PJMXYePRpBgWoju7sCZMDpBnbzexeiEwKR Thanks you very much.
sr. member
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Question: why does my wallet not show the correct amount? It should be around 8200 but only shows 1800 (and some 6400 as 'stake')?



Obviously 6400 of your coins generated stake and now you have to wait 520 blocks before they'll be available for spending again. That's how stake blocks (and stake rewards) are generated. If you want to make sure this doesn't happen you have to set the reserve balance field in the ppcoin.conf file. Someday they plan to put this control into the GUI.
legendary
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Question: why does my wallet not show the correct amount? It should be around 8200 but only shows 1800 (and some 6400 as 'stake')?

hero member
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FPGA Mining LLC
hi - I wondered if there was an RPC to ppcoind, or a website somewhere, to allow me to determine the current proof of work block reward (i.e. right now it seems to be around 397).

Cheers,

Will

Call getmemorypool (or getblocktemplate with my patched ppcoind) and check the "coinbasevalue" field. That's the reward in "sunnys", i.e. 0.000001 PPC units.
hero member
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hi - I wondered if there was an RPC to ppcoind, or a website somewhere, to allow me to determine the current proof of work block reward (i.e. right now it seems to be around 397).

Cheers,

Will
hero member
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EMC
Just think, why buy other currencies? - The answer is obvious, that to get hold of. For PPC spared from parasites - speculators. It is not interesting to them, and thank God!
sr. member
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Ok guys, a couple of updates.

- I guaranteed the prize money to double the amount of entries.
- I just spent another $99 to get 99designs to send out a promotion tweet about our contest to their almost 80,000 designers/followers. I am completely tapped out now.  Sad
- I just realized that everyone can comment on the contest page and talk to the designers, but you'll most likely have to register an account first.
- I asked if it was possible to get a time extension since I'm paying for promotion, not sure on this one though.
legendary
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Let's be constructive and respect other community members' effort. I certainly appreciate Sentinelrv and other donators contributing time and resource to get a better logo designed. Everyone has their own strength, so let's be positive and concentrate on what one can do to help the community grow, rather than discouraging other people's work. Yes talking to others about ppcoin innovation helps too, so you are also doing the good work to help, even if they remain skeptical, it still differentiates our network from all the copycat altcoins out there and will help us gain critical mass at some point.
sr. member
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I'd be great if we could move past the logo design debate sometime within the next year or two.

Sure thing! All you have to do is design a logo that's likeable by majority! Go ahead and let us know when you have one ready, thanks!

Sounds good; I'll just add mine to the long list. 

I've spoken to tons of people about PPC, but they're not quite 100% convinced it's the cryptocurrency for them.  A better logo would surely push them over the edge, so I completely understand the need for perfection on this.
full member
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I'd be great if we could move past the logo design debate sometime within the next year or two.

Sure thing! All you have to do is design a logo that's likeable by majority! Go ahead and let us know when you have one ready, thanks!
full member
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Please upvote and/or comment in the Reddit thread linking to the announcement. Thanks!

http://www.reddit.com/r/ppcoin/comments/1h7cbu/great_news_ppcoin_is_about_to_get_a/
sr. member
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I'd be great if we could move past the logo design debate sometime within the next year or two.
sr. member
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The logo design contest is now up at 99designs. I need everyone here to help give feedback to the designers on what you want to see. Feedback is very important in getting a great design. I've setup a thread over at ppcointalk.org where you can post your likes, dislikes and suggestions. I notified the designers to pay attention to this thread. Here is the link...

http://www.ppcointalk.org/index.php?board=3.0
sr. member
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There might be a few more bugs in the stake counting code.. atleast for NVC. Some blocks are minting over 400 coins:

http://nvc.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block/d503d3050ecb0011250b6cad53c093b8efd2aeb32496912d2bee4114fc663469

But the chart shows only 131.2 for the entire week:

http://cryptometer.org/novacoin_104_week_charts.html

There might be a similar bug in PPC counting too but it is probably less severe.

Yes, the bug applied to all stake coins.  I just finished updating all of them so please check again now.  That NVC chart now shows 6200 NVC from stake in the last week. Sound right?

That looks more realistic and a big jump was to be expected in NVC if that was a concern.
full member
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I'm curious: the stake-modifier has to do with the hashing of the stake blocks?  Anyone care to elaborate?


Nevermind, I answered my own question by finding this nice comment in kernel.cpp:

// Stake Modifier (hash modifier of proof-of-stake):
// The purpose of stake modifier is to prevent a txout (coin) owner from
// computing future proof-of-stake generated by this txout at the time
// of transaction confirmation. To meet kernel protocol, the txout
// must hash with a future stake modifier to generate the proof.
// Stake modifier consists of bits each of which is contributed from a
// selected block of a given block group in the past.
// The selection of a block is based on a hash of the block's proof-hash and
// the previous stake modifier.
// Stake modifier is recomputed at a fixed time interval instead of every
// block. This is to make it difficult for an attacker to gain control of
// additional bits in the stake modifier, even after generating a chain of
// blocks.

There might be a few more bugs in the stake counting code.. atleast for NVC. Some blocks are minting over 400 coins:

http://nvc.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block/d503d3050ecb0011250b6cad53c093b8efd2aeb32496912d2bee4114fc663469

But the chart shows only 131.2 for the entire week:

http://cryptometer.org/novacoin_104_week_charts.html

There might be a similar bug in PPC counting too but it is probably less severe.

Yes, the bug applied to all stake coins.  I just finished updating all of them so please check again now.  That NVC chart now shows 6200 NVC from stake in the last week. Sound right?
sr. member
Activity: 604
Merit: 250

I'm curious: the stake-modifier has to do with the hashing of the stake blocks?  Anyone care to elaborate?


Nevermind, I answered my own question by finding this nice comment in kernel.cpp:

// Stake Modifier (hash modifier of proof-of-stake):
// The purpose of stake modifier is to prevent a txout (coin) owner from
// computing future proof-of-stake generated by this txout at the time
// of transaction confirmation. To meet kernel protocol, the txout
// must hash with a future stake modifier to generate the proof.
// Stake modifier consists of bits each of which is contributed from a
// selected block of a given block group in the past.
// The selection of a block is based on a hash of the block's proof-hash and
// the previous stake modifier.
// Stake modifier is recomputed at a fixed time interval instead of every
// block. This is to make it difficult for an attacker to gain control of
// additional bits in the stake modifier, even after generating a chain of
// blocks.

There might be a few more bugs in the stake counting code.. atleast for NVC. Some blocks are minting over 400 coins:

http://nvc.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block/d503d3050ecb0011250b6cad53c093b8efd2aeb32496912d2bee4114fc663469

But the chart shows only 131.2 for the entire week:

http://cryptometer.org/novacoin_104_week_charts.html

There might be a similar bug in PPC counting too but it is probably less severe.
full member
Activity: 121
Merit: 100

I'm curious: the stake-modifier has to do with the hashing of the stake blocks?  Anyone care to elaborate?


Nevermind, I answered my own question by finding this nice comment in kernel.cpp:

// Stake Modifier (hash modifier of proof-of-stake):
// The purpose of stake modifier is to prevent a txout (coin) owner from
// computing future proof-of-stake generated by this txout at the time
// of transaction confirmation. To meet kernel protocol, the txout
// must hash with a future stake modifier to generate the proof.
// Stake modifier consists of bits each of which is contributed from a
// selected block of a given block group in the past.
// The selection of a block is based on a hash of the block's proof-hash and
// the previous stake modifier.
// Stake modifier is recomputed at a fixed time interval instead of every
// block. This is to make it difficult for an attacker to gain control of
// additional bits in the stake modifier, even after generating a chain of
// blocks.
full member
Activity: 121
Merit: 100
460K feels a bit off, there should be less than 100K minted from proof-of-stake I think.

I think Andy hasn't been maintaining the proof-of-stake.com site since March. But Andy is around, he just recently volunteered to represent PPC in September's EU bitcoin conference.

Ok, I'll check over my code to see if I can figure out the reason for the discrepancy.

What was in the proof-of-stake.com charts?  Maybe I can provide that info.  My charts don't auto-update yet.  If they get out of date, you can message me and I'll update them.

Thanks Sunny.  I was counting blocks that had the flag "stake-modifier" as stake blocks which was wrong.  Removing those gives us about 58,000 PPC from stake.  My original post is updated.  Now I've got to update all the other stake coins.   Aaaeeeiiii!

I'm curious: the stake-modifier has to do with the hashing of the stake blocks?  Anyone care to elaborate?

full member
Activity: 121
Merit: 100
460K feels a bit off, there should be less than 100K minted from proof-of-stake I think.

I think Andy hasn't been maintaining the proof-of-stake.com site since March. But Andy is around, he just recently volunteered to represent PPC in September's EU bitcoin conference.

Ok, I'll check over my code to see if I can figure out the reason for the discrepancy.

What was in the proof-of-stake.com charts?  Maybe I can provide that info.  My charts don't auto-update yet.  If they get out of date, you can message me and I'll update them.
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