Topic: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source - page 299. (Read 748233 times)

dzarmush did you send me a coin?

Sure, PM me your address

i made a test transaction from poloniex ,after 3 days of pending now they show that transaction is complete ,but i didnt get coins.My wallet is sinchronised  .Can somebody send me 1 qora i want to check is it my problem or poloniex

Hi, if we need a peer review to prove that it is not nxt code?make sure qora is the new source

I don't think it bothers them in any way. Especially if you post it in gigantic letters. Calm nothification would look way more confident.

Your huge letters look hysterical and probably piss me off even more than trolls keep it down, people
escpecially that one with "welcome to my ignore list!"

I want to see what those dickheads post. I don't feed them, but I need to see what's happening.

LETS ALL AGREE NOW NOT TO FEED TROLLS

There's a bug. Make sure you've got the seed, delete wallet folder, launch the client and recover your wallet.

Why do I suddenly have negative balance? 

Feeling myself very good while keeping my money in Qora.   

Here we go, another one.

Already six assholes: coinpump, Attack.of.the.Clones, TheMightyX, Djinou94, Hippie Tech, Casu.

Attack.of.the.clones tryed to dump the price and buy in. As soon as he bought enough he PMd me saying: "nothing personal, just wanted to buy cheap coins"
coinpump just posted a huge meaninless post, it's actually flooding, not trolling, but whatever
TheMightyX posted lots of crap trying to convice everybody that there should be a correlation between IPO results and coin price
Djinou94 posted FUD, and wrote that Jean-Luc said Qora is Nxt clone. He finished with words "everybody sell!!!"
Hippie Tech just a dickhead

And you're about to get in the their company if you continue to support all those assholes.

Your head-in-sand tactic is obviously working wonders for potential investors who visit this thread. If some of the Qora holders have some brains and care about their investment they will get this idiot to wind his neck in.

Looks like price is crashing and people are starting to crack, it will be a snowball from here. You guys shouldn't have been so damn greedy and tried to fix the price so high from the get-go. If you had let it rise from a low price, people would be happy with where you are now but instead it's crashing from a height and the early adopters will be forever jaded. Can't wait for Kora

Really? Dude, are you serious?
You start to look a bit bonkers.

I'm not sure you are on the right side of the fence.

Attack.of.the.clones started a valid discussion about the price.
coinpump just made a lengthy very positive post about the coin development.
TheMightyX.... well, didn't read closely enough, maybe he is, but doesn't feel so. There are even people agreeing with him. Thats not very troll like.
Djinou94... don't know as well, but he seemed reasonable.
Hippie Tech... and there is the troll. Yeah, definitely a troll.

dzarmush. You should actually take a step back and think about what is going on. Maybe even put a bounty up for something to be done.

After all, thinking that someone with a lot of Qora will do the website for free (and even better than someone paid) is pretty naive.
He might increase the value of his own holdings. But also of every other large Qora holder. People don't work like that....

You want something done? Put your mouth where your money is.

Cool, we've got more trolls. Just like good old times in Nxt thread. Qora will have a huge success.

Already five assholes: coinpump, Attack.of.the.Clones, TheMightyX, Djinou94, Hippie Tech. Not sure Nxt had so many.

I agree with TheMightyX.
In abstract sense there are similarities between loans and IPOs.

One difference is in level of risk, which is why people use different words "Loan" and "IPO".
Since levels of risk in loans and IPOs vary so much, we cannot say for sure that all IPOs are more risky than all loans, which supports TheMightyX point.

Just like when we have abstract classes in programming to describe something in common between derived classes, "loan mechanics" that TheMightyX was referring to is abstract class, but "Loan" and "IPO" are derived classes. So there is no point to argue about "loan mechanics" being different than IPO or IPO being different than Loan. We can argue only what specifically is in common (belongs to "loan mechanics") or different (belongs to derived classes).

While IPOs don't promise to pay $ in exchange for shares, they do promise to not run away and continue business and several other things, so that shareholders can sell those shares on free market. Those promises have something in common with promissory notes, so we could create method promise in base class.

QORA did not promise to return $ in exchange for investors QORAs, BUT here is what we hope he promised, don't we:
1 ) to not issue more than 10,000,000,000 QORAs
2 ) to be able to send and receive QORAs without consuming too much CPU,RAM,HDD
3 ) to be able to register names with QORAs
4 ) to allow exchanges to send and receive QORAs though relatively easy API
5 ) to not run away from half finished programming
6 ) to keep fixing bugs and making new features quickly (days/weeks vs quarters/years)
7 ) to keep QORA source code safe and hidden from clone masters
8 ) to not run new clones using same or similar code or same ideas by himself as competition with QORA
9 ) to not inject malware into QORA code

In addition to that it would be beneficial if he promised also one of those 2:
10 ) to not hold large amounts of QORAs and suddenly dump them all one day
11 ) if he holds large amounts then to provide price stability by establishing huge constant stable sell wall that is hard to break and would result in best distribution and price stability ever - impossible to pump => hard to dump

These are a lot of promises investors rely on.
In return investors get future opportunity to sell QORA for $.

Note that promissory note #11 can be given by any large holder of QORA especially if he is well known established user of bitcointalk, unlike QORA.

That note #11, if existed, could be very beneficial for currency future and healthy distribution.

So dear QORA whales, instead of thinking about free giveaways, think about giving promissory note #11 with some of your funds, just find the right ceiling and put huge safety wall.

There is nothing worse for inexperienced newbies with limited funds (just like me) than risk of losing it all and again. Flat price ceiling will give some assurance of liquidity and feeling of safety for all my retirement savings  
That would be another vector of innovation would not it ?

From that point of view there is no big problem with "unfair" distribution as long as all whales act towards that common and simple to execute goal.
If I was creator of QORA I would keep 40% of all coins in price stability fund and make that pledge to keep price ceiling for as long as it lasts.
If investors won't trust me with that simple price stability promise then why would they trust me with more complicated implementation promises that I may not even be able to accomplish ?

Another benefit of "unfair" distribution is that whales can invest heavily into development.
It's much harder to get million people agree to support developer even if they have escrow mechanism.
I wonder if that is why NXT and BTC are so successful - concentration of capital and wise spending.
Big crowd is never wise spender or voter.

How about QORA ? We've got some concentration of capital here too. Use it to it's advantage.
Give me some through escrow and I will give you promissory note of using it to keep price ceiling.
We could even weekly vote on what price that ceiling should be set to.

Escrow could be released in chunks when existing sell wall is close to ending.
People would see Escrow balance and know that ceiling will still be there.
When Escrow balance comes to 0 - to da moon !!!


Re: "In what Universe does the valuation of a project depend on the method of funding and NOT its characteristics???"
In Crypto-Universe risk greatly depends on method of funding because good quick anonymous distribution is hard to solve problem. It's hard not only in implementation, but also in choosing general direction: equal vs concentrated.

The reason why you want equal distribution is because there is risk that evil central bankers hide behind several whales and destroy currencies by creating price waves that prevent normal use by small people for savings and commerce.
The reason why you want concentrated distribution in good hands (not central bankers) is that these hands will provide price stability and funding of development.

May be QORA and BCNext are still looking for these good hands ... are most QORAs in good hands ?
I've got good hands... 

Earlier when I loaded up my wallet I watched on address have it's balance reduced 1 digit at a time until it was all gone. I was skeered for a few minutes, then after about 10 minutes it all came back. Some names I registered also went from confirmed to unconfirmed and back. I have a name from earlier that's still unconfirmed yet those after it are confirmed. My balance "may" be a few hundred off (waiting for block explorer to catch up to double check). Outside of that, everythings working fine.