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sr. member
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Vires in Numeris
You guys really expect 70x return on an escrowed IPO with no risk?

come on guys, lets be realistic here  Cheesy

Did you expect a *2000ROI for NXT even though it started with a much worse client?

Wizzard I've seen you around a lot and I expect more from a Sr. member.

You know full well that NXT had no escrow, no pictures, no proof, nothing. It was a big risk. Therefor it deserved a big reward (I will admit 2000x or more is a bit extreme and ridiculous).

What I said still stands, there was very little risk involved in the Qora IPO except for opportunity risk while your funds were tied up in escrow.

Make sure you don't fry your brain with all that highly academical finance analysis...  are you even listening to yourself type?!?!?   Huh

In what Universe does the valuation of a project depend on the method of funding and NOT its characteristics???   Shocked



In what world is that not a factor? On one hand you are saying that I don't understand business fundamentals and then on the other hand you are saying something that proves you don't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk-based_pricing
In simplest terms:
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The interest rate on a loan is determined not only by the time value of money, but also by the lender's estimate of the probability that the borrower will default on the loan.

In this instance the loan is the IPO funds, and the interest is your return (or ROI).

Risk is always a factor in determining rewards. There can be no reward without risk. Greater risk, greater reward.... I'm not sure why I had to say that.

Anyway, please stop trying to mince my words now, I'm not trying to detract from the benefit of Qora or its feature set, I'm only questioning the thought process of listening to a group of Qora holders who got together to arbitrarily set a price for Qora, independent of the market.

You obviously have a biased opinion on the matter as you hold Qora and its in your best interests to agree on that price.
sr. member
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Vires in Numeris
You guys really expect 70x return on an escrowed IPO with no risk?

come on guys, lets be realistic here  Cheesy


It always tickles me that many of those who try to attack the coin always seem to have a past posting on terrible shitcoins. Guess what if you can't see quality and your focused on making .1BTC from pumping a shitcoins maybe you won't be focused on real innovations when they come along.


back to the Premine thread for you!  Grin


Lets not forget how Warren Buffet one of the richest men in the world got rich. Picking winners.


I'm sorry "gorrila-jam" what the fuck are you trying to imply? if you took the time to look past the past couple pages of my posting history you would see that I post in almost every shady or scam ANN pointing out scams and trying to protect the community from con artists.

Premine, for your information, is an ironic name, as none of the coins were actually given to the developer. It was the first 100% free community coin giveaway experiment, long before Faircoin or any of the other copycats. I volunteered to help revive it because I believe it had and still has potential and I hate to see the community suffer due to the bad support of the developer. That developer took off due to life reasons/school/whatever and didn't have the time/experience to add any features or updates.

Please point out where I've ever "pumped a shitcoin" Mr armchair commando. I've got over 900 posts and probably half of them are trying to point out scams such as Edgecoin (Rememeber that GEM!?) and trying to educate our more naive members on not supporting clonecoins or investing without IPO. Maybe if you took a moment to think about things before opening your big mouth you wouldn't look like a complete douchebag right now.
I am a supporting and contributing member of this community. What the fuck are you? a 28 post douchebag who thinks he knows shit.
sr. member
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Vires in Numeris
You guys really expect 70x return on an escrowed IPO with no risk?

come on guys, lets be realistic here  Cheesy

Did you expect a *2000ROI for NXT even though it started with a much worse client?

Wizzard I've seen you around a lot and I expect more from a Sr. member.

You know full well that NXT had no escrow, no pictures, no proof, nothing. It was a big risk. Therefor it deserved a big reward (I will admit 2000x or more is a bit extreme and ridiculous).

What I said still stands, there was very little risk involved in the Qora IPO except for opportunity risk while your funds were tied up in escrow.
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1000
Reality is stranger than fiction
Normally I was going to release a new version today fixing most of the database related errors and corruption issues.

Instead I started working on making synchronization faster so the next version will be released tomorrow.


Thank you qora!
sr. member
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Normally I was going to release a new version today fixing most of the database related errors and corruption issues.

Instead I started working on making synchronization faster so the next version will be released tomorrow.
Good luck! I support this coin!
full member
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Normally I was going to release a new version today fixing most of the database related errors and corruption issues.

Instead I started working on making synchronization faster so the next version will be released tomorrow.
newbie
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Need Quick 10 BTC and am selling 13,333,333 QORA @ 75 sats (this deal lasts only 20 minutes)

We all need BTC keep your QORA or something
legendary
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CEO Bitpanda.com
Need Quick 10 BTC and am selling 13,333,333 QORA @ 75 sats (this deal lasts only 20 minutes)
sr. member
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Figured since the trading thread is slow i'd try Poloniex, but it's Frozen? Anyoneknow what the issue is?
They said that they are checking the wallet now. QORA will be unfrozen as soon as they will check it
sr. member
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Figured since the trading thread is slow i'd try Poloniex, but it's Frozen? Anyoneknow what the issue is?
member
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Qora standard wallet:
Is is possible to set a description/remark for each address in the wallet?
Is there only this wallet client?

sr. member
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Here is the idea.

Qora (use multisig) with ChromaWallet (colored coins)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106373.480
http://chromawallet.com/#
ChromaWallet is coming along quite nicely. Share your love with killerstorm and others on the thread, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106373.480

One of the biggest hurdles we will be facing in the next few months with decentralized exchanges, is Regulation of some sort in the cryptocurrency world.
We are already seeing some legislation being worked on in different parts of the world.

Business Development for Cryptocurrencies (Qora) should be a #1 priority besides an an easy to use interface.
We have recently seen a lot of investment from venture capitalists and they are spending the money to invest in the technology.
I propose that we add a centralized function (for now) with the Colored Coins/Assets/with multisig in the Qora implementation.
For those companies/crowdfunding that would want to list on a decentralized exchange, they might have to abide by KYC (know your customer) and AML (Anti-money laundering) regulation.

I suggest we build this into the Colored Coins/Assets implementation as an Option (check box) for the company/crowdfunding issuing assets, etc...
Once they would use the check box or radio button, a Payment Compliant Industry (PCI) vendor or what I call a Crypto Payment Organization would verify the registration of the Asset. etc...
This is when we fuse centralized with decentralization and then decentralize for good.

Let me know your thoughts about this.
hero member
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Sharex got back to me within half an hour of sending the support ticket. Said their wallet stopped syncing and issues should be resolved in a matter of hours. 1 point for Sharexcoin (plus 1 point pending in case they do indeed fix it fast)
hero member
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I gave up on Poloniex for now and just went to ShareXCoin.  Both my BTC deposit and my Qora withdraw went quickly without issue.




Sahrexcoin is a good site, its not ideal for Qora cause there are sooo many shitcoins on there.


Lets all agree to trade there and push the vol up!

I hit the jackpot. Two deposits in limbo on both exchanges Cheesy
Poloniex support took 20 hours to reply to the ticket but then resolved the issue for me, remaining polite even though my tickets weren't exactly worded friendly. 1 point for Poloniex

Sharexcoin, which worked flawlessly before. Yet has to credit a deposit made an hour ago.

It seems both exchanges are adding deposits manually at the moment.
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win
You guys really expect 70x return on an escrowed IPO with no risk?

come on guys, lets be realistic here  Cheesy


It always tickles me that many of those who try to attack the coin always seem to have a past posting on terrible shitcoins. Guess what if you can't see quality and your focused on making .1BTC from pumping a shitcoins maybe you won't be focused on real innovations when they come along.


back to the Premine thread for you!  Grin


Lets not forget how Warren Buffet one of the richest men in the world got rich. Picking winners.


legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1000
Reality is stranger than fiction
You guys really expect 70x return on an escrowed IPO with no risk?

come on guys, lets be realistic here  Cheesy

Did you expect a *2000ROI for NXT even though it started with a much worse client?
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Vires in Numeris
You guys really expect 70x return on an escrowed IPO with no risk?

come on guys, lets be realistic here  Cheesy
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
win
If qora could come into the thread once a day and post brief updates of what he's working on/almost finished, it would provide strong morale for supporters and those on the fence. I myself have much confidence in qora but for those who don't I think it will garner their trust. He doesn't have to reply to posts or discussion just quick brief updates of what he's doing and what he's thinking.  Smiley


He works on the product, he answers questions related to the product. He doesn't try to hype or sell anyone anything I'm not sure he cares about morale. I like it that way.



*I heard he responds to PM's.....if its about the product haha.



I don't need updates, I need him to work hard on the next big thing in Cryptocurrency!
legendary
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If qora could come into the thread once a day and post brief updates of what he's working on/almost finished, it would provide strong morale for supporters and those on the fence. I myself have much confidence in qora but for those who don't I think it will garner their trust. He doesn't have to reply to posts or discussion just quick brief updates of what he's doing and what he's thinking.  Smiley
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