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legendary
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May be Qora is... Satoshi Nakamoto  Shocked
 Huh
legendary
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Reality is stranger than fiction
I'll just put this here   Wink

link: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/BCNext's_Plan

"Part Three - by BCnext

Bitcoin was a genius invention, but its implementation became corrupted by people whose aim was to make money – not bitcoins, but dollars.

BCNext was working on a project that required special conditions for its existence. He hoped that Bitcoin would change society and prepare ground for the project. Half a year ago it became crystal clear for him that Bitcoin, as an idea of trustless money, had failed. A fix was required, and it came in the form of Transparent Mining. "Transparent" is the key word here: it changes the focus from "trust no one" to "don't let anyone cheat", because any cheating becomes obvious very quickly (as soon as allowed by network latency).

Nxt is just a work-around. It was launched to win more time, and to conduct an experiment that was supposed to show if society is ready for BCNext's main project. He thinks that society can't be completely decentralized, and Nxt will help to measure the level of decentralization after which a society can't function as a whole. Bitcoin relies only on math, but math can't solve problems arising because of the illogical nature of the man. Mining in Nxt relies on the cooperation of people, and even forces it. Without cooperation, Nxt becomes weak and can be easily attacked. It's like a system in unstable equilibrium. If people stop caring about cooperation, Nxt will fail very quickly.

Now that you know why Nxt was created, you should choose which path to follow. The easiest one is to repeat the history of Bitcoin in the hope that something will change. The alternative is to implement Transparent Mining and try to handle people's imperfections. The latter can't be done with pure math, and even if you manage to find some applicable laws, you can't be sure that those laws won't change in the future.

BCNext has departed permanently. He doesn't feel responsible for the future of Nxt. He implemented an idea that was obvious, but nobody else tried to do it (maybe because the creation of a Bitcoin clone was much easier). One day he will return with his main project, under his real name. Don't try to learn the real identity of BCNext. He intentionally copied the styles and ideas of different people. If you think you've found him, you are likely wrong. BCNext never existed. This "sock puppet" was created only for Nxt, and will never appear again.

The plan always was very simple - to show a path that very obvious but was avoided for some reason. BCNext doesn't pretend that he possesses sacral knowledge and knows what is awaiting in the end. You are left on your own. Good luck."

OMG so NXT was just a temporary intermediate ground for QORA!!!!!!


EDIT: We have now numerous indications that qora is indeed the main project + the new pos algo..

@all: we should make our best to provide all services and bounties needed for Qoras success..
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1002
I'll just put this here   Wink

link: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/BCNext's_Plan

"Part Three - by BCnext

Bitcoin was a genius invention, but its implementation became corrupted by people whose aim was to make money – not bitcoins, but dollars.

BCNext was working on a project that required special conditions for its existence. He hoped that Bitcoin would change society and prepare ground for the project. Half a year ago it became crystal clear for him that Bitcoin, as an idea of trustless money, had failed. A fix was required, and it came in the form of Transparent Mining. "Transparent" is the key word here: it changes the focus from "trust no one" to "don't let anyone cheat", because any cheating becomes obvious very quickly (as soon as allowed by network latency).

Nxt is just a work-around. It was launched to win more time, and to conduct an experiment that was supposed to show if society is ready for BCNext's main project. He thinks that society can't be completely decentralized, and Nxt will help to measure the level of decentralization after which a society can't function as a whole. Bitcoin relies only on math, but math can't solve problems arising because of the illogical nature of the man. Mining in Nxt relies on the cooperation of people, and even forces it. Without cooperation, Nxt becomes weak and can be easily attacked. It's like a system in unstable equilibrium. If people stop caring about cooperation, Nxt will fail very quickly.

Now that you know why Nxt was created, you should choose which path to follow. The easiest one is to repeat the history of Bitcoin in the hope that something will change. The alternative is to implement Transparent Mining and try to handle people's imperfections. The latter can't be done with pure math, and even if you manage to find some applicable laws, you can't be sure that those laws won't change in the future.

BCNext has departed permanently. He doesn't feel responsible for the future of Nxt. He implemented an idea that was obvious, but nobody else tried to do it (maybe because the creation of a Bitcoin clone was much easier). One day he will return with his main project, under his real name. Don't try to learn the real identity of BCNext. He intentionally copied the styles and ideas of different people. If you think you've found him, you are likely wrong. BCNext never existed. This "sock puppet" was created only for Nxt, and will never appear again.

The plan always was very simple - to show a path that very obvious but was avoided for some reason. BCNext doesn't pretend that he possesses sacral knowledge and knows what is awaiting in the end. You are left on your own. Good luck."
legendary
Activity: 1708
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Reality is stranger than fiction
Another delay in NEM coin camp, they need 2 more month before release.
Qora is the winner  Smiley

eXo has delay after delay although they have a team, as well as nem and nxtl

who is Qora? the guy has launched coin within a month

I don't think that having a delay is a bad thing
could be that the software will be more stable when released.
Also the developers may have different approach to development.

We don't know when qora started to develop the software
if you calculate from the announcement here than it is 1 month but
I think he started to develop the software earlier.

I didn't knew that there was a competition!  Grin
If qora is winner what was the prize?!  Huh


I'm not saying it's a bad thing. They have their own way.

I'm just saying our dev announced Nxt and launched it within a couple of months, then he announced Qora and launched it within a month  Smiley

Yes Qora is BCNext's latest miracle
hero member
Activity: 532
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oh,you are right.

ltc num is 4 times  btc num
btc value is 43 times ltc value.

if same as above,
so qora num is 10 times  nxt num
nxt value is 100 times qora value.



Qora is not a fork of nxt.
Qora can be better than nxt.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 501
Qora will reach NXT one of the eight points of market value,will start at 100 sta when On the platform.

so 80 sta is still cheap. Cool

After a month will reach 400 sta no problem.only half of nxt. Cool


do you remember:

nxt only have one billion,qora have 10 billions.
so nxt is 800sta,qora is 80sta.and this condition is qora is same famous as nxt.

now ,what do you think?

now I think that you are not just annoying but also stupid

nxt price is around 8000 satoshi atm

oh,you are right.

ltc num is 4 times  btc num
btc value is 43 times ltc value.

if same as above,
so qora num is 10 times  nxt num
nxt value is 100 times qora value.




I was trying to believe u r not that dumb until now.
newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0
Qora will reach NXT one of the eight points of market value,will start at 100 sta when On the platform.

so 80 sta is still cheap. Cool

After a month will reach 400 sta no problem.only half of nxt. Cool


do you remember:

nxt only have one billion,qora have 10 billions.
so nxt is 800sta,qora is 80sta.and this condition is qora is same famous as nxt.

now ,what do you think?

now I think that you are not just annoying but also stupid

nxt price is around 8000 satoshi atm

oh,you are right.

ltc num is 4 times  btc num
btc value is 43 times ltc value.

if same as above,
so qora num is 10 times  nxt num
nxt value is 100 times qora value.


legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
Qora will reach NXT one of the eight points of market value,will start at 100 sta when On the platform.

so 80 sta is still cheap. Cool

After a month will reach 400 sta no problem.only half of nxt. Cool


do you remember:

nxt only have one billion,qora have 10 billions.
so nxt is 800sta,qora is 80sta.and this condition is qora is same famous as nxt.

now ,what do you think?

now I think that you are not just annoying but also stupid

nxt price is around 8000 satoshi atm

He is just trying to buy some cheap Qora.
BTW, Qora bid price is even higher than offer price now:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6795226

Actually it doesn't look like he's trying to do anyhing, that's why he's freaking me out  Smiley
Just look through his posts. It's just a bunch of crap masked at some valuable thoughts about algorythm, decentralization, prices. Looks like dumb 11 years old trying do discuss such things and doesn't even realise his dumbness.


When I read him say about transactions leading to decentralisation I stopped reading...
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
Qora will reach NXT one of the eight points of market value,will start at 100 sta when On the platform.

so 80 sta is still cheap. Cool

After a month will reach 400 sta no problem.only half of nxt. Cool


do you remember:

nxt only have one billion,qora have 10 billions.
so nxt is 800sta,qora is 80sta.and this condition is qora is same famous as nxt.

now ,what do you think?

now I think that you are not just annoying but also stupid

nxt price is around 8000 satoshi atm

He is just trying to buy some cheap Qora.
BTW, Qora bid price is even higher than offer price now:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6795226

Actually it doesn't look like he's trying to do anyhing, that's why he's freaking me out  Smiley
Just look through his posts. It's just a bunch of crap masked at some valuable thoughts about algorythm, decentralization, prices. Looks like dumb 11 years old trying do discuss such things and doesn't even realise his dumbness.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
Qora will reach NXT one of the eight points of market value,will start at 100 sta when On the platform.

so 80 sta is still cheap. Cool

After a month will reach 400 sta no problem.only half of nxt. Cool


do you remember:

nxt only have one billion,qora have 10 billions.
so nxt is 800sta,qora is 80sta.and this condition is qora is same famous as nxt.

now ,what do you think?

now I think that you are not just annoying but also stupid

nxt price is around 8000 satoshi atm

He is just trying to buy some cheap Qora.
BTW, Qora bid price is even higher than offer price now:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6795226


people are going to regret not taking some of these sell offers. Conservatively I would say a 10x increase is very likely and a 20x is still not crazy even at the highest sell offers.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000

@qora
why blocks generator's balance totally has millions coins.
other people have a few coins has no chance to generating block.this will only make qora to be centralised.

i think you should change your code to make that people have a few coins have same chance to generate block.

Compared with a 1 million account, a 100million Qora account has 100 times chance of generating block.
We call that fairness.



this fairness will make to be centralised. not real fairness.
only decentralised world make qora coin developing well.we should find way to make it decentralised.



Could you put your mind together before posting anything? Please.


i think have coins (not care about coins num) and activity accounts(recently rec coins or send coins or register name,.etc) have the same chance to generate block.

that's diff from nxt, and ahead nxt.


1. Someone with 1 coin shouldn't have the same forging power as one with 1 million coins.
2. The one with 10M coins can split coins between 100'000 accounts a buy names ones in a while.

1 through activity (recently rec coins or send coins or register name,.etc),  account with 1 coin should have the same chance as one with 1 million coins.account with 1 coin after activity will be zero,then no chance.
2 split coins need fees.no one will do this things: 10M coins can split coins between 100'000 accounts.





We don't know the algorithm Qora is using, we may find Qora puts some weight to usage and other variables. I haven't seen any defined thinking behind it yet. I'm sure he will tell us. I have a feeling he has a unique way of doing it that is different to simple stake size. But if you are really building a currency for the future stake size has to be a major variable.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500

Command Line Interface/Console
After running the application in command line only run the application again but now with the -cli option.
java -jar Qora-jar -cli

To execute a command use the following format:


Examples:
GET transactions/network
POST payment {"amount":"10.05","fee":"1.000001","sender":"Qdxn4qW8kiPUiBnBSy9mbqMGBrBHRhK2JM","recipient":"QhMaXFowsVqdAhvU2xkcLzuVaH5VDyEWsS"}

Look below for the API documentation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yQa7gifMpLb8i_fHEmOPfCObAX70QUYlEYTsQL8-MtA/edit?usp=sharing


All the API is you need.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 501
Qora will reach NXT one of the eight points of market value,will start at 100 sta when On the platform.

so 80 sta is still cheap. Cool

After a month will reach 400 sta no problem.only half of nxt. Cool


do you remember:

nxt only have one billion,qora have 10 billions.
so nxt is 800sta,qora is 80sta.and this condition is qora is same famous as nxt.

now ,what do you think?

now I think that you are not just annoying but also stupid

nxt price is around 8000 satoshi atm

He is just trying to buy some cheap Qora.
BTW, Qora bid price is even higher than offer price now:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6795226
newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0

@qora
why blocks generator's balance totally has millions coins.
other people have a few coins has no chance to generating block.this will only make qora to be centralised.

i think you should change your code to make that people have a few coins have same chance to generate block.

Compared with a 1 million account, a 100million Qora account has 100 times chance of generating block.
We call that fairness.



this fairness will make to be centralised. not real fairness.
only decentralised world make qora coin developing well.we should find way to make it decentralised.



Could you put your mind together before posting anything? Please.


i think have coins (not care about coins num) and activity accounts(recently rec coins or send coins or register name,.etc) have the same chance to generate block.

that's diff from nxt, and ahead nxt.


1. Someone with 1 coin shouldn't have the same forging power as one with 1 million coins.
2. The one with 10M coins can split coins between 100'000 accounts a buy names ones in a while.

1 through activity (recently rec coins or send coins or register name,.etc),  account with 1 coin should have the same chance as one with 1 million coins.account with 1 coin after activity will be zero,then no chance.
2 split coins need fees.no one will do this things: 10M coins can split coins between 100'000 accounts.


legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
Qora will reach NXT one of the eight points of market value,will start at 100 sta when On the platform.

so 80 sta is still cheap. Cool

After a month will reach 400 sta no problem.only half of nxt. Cool


do you remember:

nxt only have one billion,qora have 10 billions.
so nxt is 800sta,qora is 80sta.and this condition is qora is same famous as nxt.

now ,what do you think?

now I think that you are not just annoying but also stupid

nxt price is around 8000 satoshi atm
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1001
Hello.

Does any body know if there it a wiki or documentation about
the QORA rpc call API?

How do I get a list of supported commands in the QORA console?

Thanks.


API documentation.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yQa7gifMpLb8i_fHEmOPfCObAX70QUYlEYTsQL8-MtA/edit?usp=sharing
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
Qora will reach NXT one of the eight points of market value,will start at 100 sta when On the platform.

so 80 sta is still cheap. Cool

After a month will reach 400 sta no problem.only half of nxt. Cool

NXT was always held back by negative views on here. It didn't kill it but it's price was confidently heading much higher than it is even now before the clones and FUD onslaught happened, people forget how much negativity was thrown at NXT.  Maybe NXT is not the best comparison even though it's done great it should really be number 2 on market cap IMO.

In fact if we lived in a rational world where coins value was based on its utility and nothing else then probably it should of been at 1.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000
Qora will reach NXT one of the eight points of market value,will start at 100 sta when On the platform.

so 80 sta is still cheap. Cool

After a month will reach 400 sta no problem.only half of nxt. Cool


do you remember:

nxt only have one billion,qora have 10 billions.
so nxt is 800sta,qora is 80sta.and this condition is qora is same famous as nxt.

now ,what do you think?

nxt is 8000  Wink
hero member
Activity: 1111
Merit: 535
Hello.

Does any body know if there it a wiki or documentation about
the QORA rpc call API?

How do I get a list of supported commands in the QORA console?

Thanks.
newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0
Qora will reach NXT one of the eight points of market value,will start at 100 sta when On the platform.

so 80 sta is still cheap. Cool

After a month will reach 400 sta no problem.only half of nxt. Cool


do you remember:

nxt only have one billion,qora have 10 billions.
so nxt is 800sta,qora is 80sta.and this condition is qora is same famous as nxt.

now ,what do you think?
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