Topic: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade - page 12. (Read 1031025 times)

Thule, the 65M is indeed cold storage wallet of btc38.
You can check that here: http://www.btc38.com/trade/reserves.html
I made the same mistake a few years ago.
Interesting is that the cold storage increased from:
3.5M at 24SEP14 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8956720 to
65M now.

For weeks the 65M wallet is stuck because btc38 did not update the wallet and only one person (a sockpuppet) is complaining...while 25% of the total Quark supply is not accessible .

Edit: Since cryptovation takes everything personal what I post about Quark (see post cryptovation below) an adjustment to make it more accurate: Two people complain that Quark is not accessible on btc38: user "Cryptovation" and a sockpuppet (too lazy to search for the account name of the sockpuppet).

What garbage are you talking lol .

Funny all the investors you know havent sold a single coin.Why didnt they support quark back in the days ?Your conclusion is totaly wrong and also manipulative like cryptohunter.

You are telling people Max and Cryptohunterz are the solution.What a joke.You can clearly see from old senior members that Max and Kolin coworkered from the beginning
to scam people and you call Max a solution ?LOL
A solution to loose your money i guess.
Cryptohunterz didnt do anything successfull in the past.Maybe you can point me to something they did well ?
And as a Christ i would ask you to let Jesus out of the game since he is not supporting SCAMMERS too

And like i said many times before the ONLY ONE who are now trying to push QUARK are the major coin owners trying to dump their shit to some idiots.
Don't get fooled a third time

So

1. you refuse to answer my questions.
2. you have no evidence for your speculations
3. you have no audit?
4. Everything I have said is public and verifiable.
5. stephen mined this one hard like he did every pow release. This too is verifiable if you research.




I await your proof and I await your answer to my questions that will prove without doubt that you have been wrong about 90% of everything you have said so far.

Come back with evidence and proof. Speculations and wild ramblings have no place on an adult board.

So far you appear confused and upset.

Also please understand your frustration is upsetting you into making numerous spelling errors to the point of me having to guess at the points you are failing to make and i am worried about your blood pressure. Please take a moment to compose yourself. Then start researching all the evidence you need to make a valid fud here in future.

You are a valid member of this community. You are doing a  fab job of dispelling the rumours of wrong doing with regard the launch of a great coin like quark.

Please also copy and paste these posts from the past that i have edited. These are of great interest to me.

Like i said you are a poor looser using the same tactic like Kolins.Your master teached you well.
You know exectly there is no old audit since Kolin closed the board and making a new one would take hours or even days.

However i will show proof tomorrow how Kolins claim to make some profit with his group on another coin and after that to pump and jump Quark again.
I will also show proof that Max is coworking with Kolins or should i say Wentz ? and who exectly is in his family......

You fuckers won't scam a third time on this coin .
And to your poor personal attack i give a shit about your opinion as in my eyes you are a peace of shit trying to scam other people
Say Kolin to train his dogs better in manipulation


Edit: Editing now posts ?LOL what an old trick of Kolins are you using ?You poor fucker try to manipulate the conversations by editing your old POSTS


YOU FUCKING LOOSER

I am providing facts?

So you choose to ignore all of my questions??

How about you answer those first.

Why should I constantly answer to your own unfounded accusations. Let's see you answer my questions first.

Becoming personal and making childish remarks will only serve to make you look more desperate. Stick to the facts.

Also show me 1 audit right now that the mining part was not fair.

That is a challenge right now for you. I await your non childish response. I wish to discuss the facts with you only not unfounded personal speculations.

Review my questions. Answer them. Then provide the evidence I have requested so that I may take you more seriously.

I will discuss only the facts with you. If you have no evidence, no corroborating observable events, no facts at all then what can i discuss with you.

stevenlam raped this pow launch as he did MANY pow launches. He then dumped them all as he always did. He was a nightmare on pow launches as was stevenB these were big miners.

You are keeping ignoring facts.Same old tactic Kolins used.


It has been proofed even showing audits that the mine was not fair.It has been proofed that kolins and max worked from the beginning.It has been proofed that Kolin tried with other members to scam the quark community.
It has been proofed that members like Vic,Adam,Max etc coworked with Kolin and it has been proofed that they are called the digitalindustry family is bashing people who are posting truth.

You are clearly one of them.

You see no issues bribing people to advertise a scam? LOL
Oh funny Max always disappeared when the community demanded something and only did what Kolin told him to do.Of course this is also no issue for you since you are part of these fucking scammers !!!


Ohh i will show tomorrow another proof from Kolin that he is going to make some money with his group to use the funds to pump and dump Quark again.....

What a coincident

Yeah defending yourself for the scam ?

I don't understand the question.

I am presenting provable and observable events. These are factual. People can read and judge for themselves. However I just refuted all of your points above so this is now time for you to realise those statements you made are false or at the very best unprovable.

If you say kolin is bad - i agree although once i thought he was good for quark but he turned evil after dumping his coins out.
If you say max created quark then just left it to dwindle and perish - i agree.
If you say quark was pumped by whales (who got their coins by mining or buying in fair competition) then dumped and left to die - i agree

Everything else you say i do not agree and i have presented observable events to validate why i disagree.

If you are talking about that meme coin or whatever kolin tried to bring out. That i condemned for the scam piece of crap it was.

You need to bring proof and corroborate you statements else they can be viewed as suspect or false. Please understand this point.


Answer these questions.

1. do you now realise you are wrong about the btc38 wallet colluding with these other big wallets?

2. do you now realise quark was a fair pow release by all measurable standards with the transparency we have to hand

3. do you now realise quark was available in huge quantities for months for practically nothing

4. do you now realise there was no way to obtain quark other than mine in fair competition or buy in fair competition

5. do you realise a lot of people holding quark right now bought and mined fairly?

6. do you realise every criticism you can have for quark there are multitudes of coins that can have these leveled at them and far worse


Please answer these so that I may understand that you are taking effort to analyse the observable facts I am presenting to you and can be corroborated by research you can do in your free time.


Please explain clearly and in detail if you are not able to answer these questions. Also explain your answers so that i may assist you in gaining the knowledge that I will freely bestow upon you but for the asking. You may have questions I can not answer but am willing to explore those with you.

Yeah defending yourself for the scam ?

You know i remeber the name vic but didnt know exectly from where and just checked.It was the guy who created with Kolin the other coin where they wanted to premine it for 6 weeks before anouncing it and which went public......yeah i remember vic however i dont give shit for his word.He coworked with Kolin to much.BTW its not even his real name.
Or how Kolin trained them to scam





Or the confirmation That Kolin and Max are working together from the beginning.......ohhh yeah the MAX who is updating currently Quark

i know a guy who had totally luckily put his last handful of btc on quark around oct 2013 and had $2mm in quark by dec 2013. he was literally sleeping on a couch. for some reason he hardly sold any.   did give me a few..

i think his friends dumped it eventually.

OK so here is the Quark scheme for the noobs:

    Set a very high number of total coins. 250 million is not high
    A few people mined 95% of all quarks in a very short period of time. compared to what, are all short emission coins scams?
    Agreement among the early miners to hold on their coins except a very few for trading on the market. totally wrong it was all dumped down to 80sats for months loads available market saturated with it by miner dumpers
    Give quarks to people with some decent audience (i.e. Bill Still + Max Keiser) so they can promote it. I dont know but i dont see it matters paying people to promote the coin
    Resulting a high number of buyer on the market + very few coins available for trading = tons available for trading it crashed cryptsy
    High market prices X total mined coins (which 95% held by a small group of people) = super artificially high market capitalization. wrong unless nobody bought all the 80-200 sats coins that sat there for months
    Newbies look on coinmarketcap.com and say "WOW quark is very promising!"
    Rinse and repeat 4-7
    Dump and profit.




sorry there is little corroborating evidence for these statements.

lack of development killed it, actually there was no development after launch and dev just vanished because the mining release was fair and no premine.

POW emission should have been longer but was not a scam launch 100% for sure.

So far you have be PROVEN wrong on so many different points starting with the btc38 wallet being in collusion with other big wallets.
I have refuted nearly every point above.

If you have issues with the actions of some quarkers that is fine. I dont like how some things went down. However it was far from a scam release.

You need to be sensible and think it out no just machine gun accusations and provably false statements else you will have no credibility.

I think bill was probably paid to promote quark but eventually lack of development involvement and wasting time on crap like shaq games combined with kolin dumping out and then on purpose trying to crush quark.

I see honest miners and purchasers of quark as victims to some of these tactics and i see no reason to fud them now.

Max created quark then left it to die. This is not the actions of someone with millions of coins. Not much of what you say makes any logical sense at all. If i managed to grab a ton of coins i would do what was required to get it pumped so i could exit. Not let it die down to nothing before kolin managed to get a pump out of it.

Kolin i hope is gone. The fact he crushed quark as he left tells me he had no quark left to dump. Hopefully he is gone for good although without him perhaps nobody would have ever heard of quark.

Be constructive or at least bring FACTS and EVIDENCE to support your statements and allegations.

If you are trying to warm people then bring the truth

Yes kolin is bad stay away
Yes max left it to die because he had no incentive to work on a project he had no coins for.
Yes shaq fu was a waste of time
Yes bill still promoted it... i think he believed kolins crap that it solved btcs issues. I mean some of his investors must have got rekt so he would not have done that on purpose.
Yes there are probably some quark whales although I would love to analysis on these wallets. I wonder if these whales bought at the top or bottom. Either way it makes no difference because if initial distribution is a fair pow release then you can only attain coins by mining fairly or buying fairly.
If you want to become a whale and have to compete against others fairly you are rightfully a whale and can act as you choose best for yourself. That is your right if you got to your position in a fair way.

Am going to quote these posts here from entropyextropy





The forex guy he is reffering to was my friend who was in the quark foundation and who really pushed quark hardly.He also was the guy who started the other currencies where many members followed him.

Have a look what Max is writing there in 2013.That he didnt disappeared and that he will keep working on Quark.Seems like he didnt anything for years but of course the other dev guy is the liar


And here a reply from Kolin

Nobody is going to tell me quark was not a fair release

I was mining from the start and was able to mine a lot on just normal quad core cpu on my rigs.


The short emission

well what about all those others with even shorter emissions? loads of them from mint, black ...the list is endless..

Short compared to ltc or btc yes
not compared to many others released then

foundation reasons for leaving - let them come and tell me here why... i bet it was all the drama kolin made and price crashing.
biggest waste of money was that crap game...how do we get our funds back? did they even use quark?

If the initial distribution is fair then you can never tell what happens after that. You could by these for 80 sats at one point so of course you can buy millions for nothing.

This is why i think max never mined any of them because he vanished and the coin sunk to shit after release. I nearly dumped all mine for 200 sats


Anyway there is no way you can point the finger at quark and not at 100 other coins for far worse bullshit.

Then these new insta icos raising 20M and keeping 90% - gns

Even the shittest pow launches are better than these ICOS

If you want to troll people for their personal actions then go ahead make it more personal in another thread. Quark is not them for all we know kolin is gone and it makes more sense that he is.

Anyway who are you? how are you privy to all this secret information nobody else knows about and that is not corroborated by anyone but you?

I will await to hear from vic is the foundation objected to these whales that in my books could not have obtained their quark in anything other than fairly on the market or fairly mining it.

Silvermetal, thanks for the historical context. As I mentioned before, we are engaging additional developers in order to continue the work and have active development in additional directions. We have engaged with developers to this end - and the plan is to implement masternodes and decentralized governance. Decentralized governance removes the issue with centralized decision making and development that grounded Quark before. The merge mine coin was an unfortunate last attempt to salvage the situation as I saw the writing on the wall when the hashrate was critically low and the network was no longer secure. I will answer for that and apologize for my involvement, however, the options seemed few, and without network security there was never going to be a future for the coin, as investors saw the critical flaw in the coin, and there was never going to be a valuation of the coin that would be sufficient to supply enough hashrate to secure the network without substantial additional investment - which wasn't going to happen when there was a fundamental critical flaw which undermined trust. Again, the lack of development was the critical flaw - we are working to address this, which will be clear once the hybrid algorithm is released.

That was not the main reason.The main reason is that after they found out about these big wallets and also how Kolins sponsored Bill Still and the bad distribution they wanted to make a "HARD FORK" to fix it.

However as you can imagine Max and Kolin were against it and started many fights calling names even calling foundation members who were for a hard fork scammers and liars and no sayers who wants to destroy Quark.Since Max already at that time worked on another coin and people saw there is no real dev support or solution since max and kolin did everything to protect these wallets ,they started working on their own coin.

To summarize the first 20 pages: "EntropyExtropy" a developer who worked for Quark in the early days (before I ever heard of Quark) already found out that Max and Kolin could not be trusted and Quark was very poorly distributed.
Unfortunately the investigations of his team are lost because the old quark forum is not working anymore. A short summary is described in this post:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3965567


I don't think the last foundation group left because of the poor distribution of the wallets. At least it was not the main reason.
The main reason was 1. the scamming behavior of Kolin, and 2. Max only reacted to Kolin.
You can read the full story here why the last foundation group left:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9007804

Later on I realized why Max was not very reactive.
That all started when an old Quark foundation member send me a youtube video of Bryce Weiner; In this video Bryce talked about Zeta, Myriad, nation coins...and guess who is the creator of all these coins: Max
I smiled when somebody suggested something about "Guldencoin" a few days ago...Let's see what that will bring to Quark.

So..if you say Quark, then you also say ahmed_bodi, UNO scammers, Bryce Weiner, Kolin Evans...and they are just the tip of the iceberg.

"The distribution was fair. End of story."

Anybody can read the first 20 pages of that thread and see himself if it was fair.
Also the amount of coins which you could mine after 3-6 months were a joke.
It was even one of Quarks major problem and still is that there are no miners at all.Who is going to mine something what brings shit.
The people who pushed Quark and were its main supporters left creating another coin.
Another fact about the foundation was that they mainly got their coins from small investers were big wallets didnt contributed a single coin.
If you think Quark will ever reach its old status back than i can tell you its poor dreaming.Cryptocoderz havent a single successfull coin at all.Max update won't change anything about Quark.
You guys are just looking to make a quick buck.....however to make some big profit somebody else needs to loose big money.Thats how it works.

"As for the core leaving because of the huge wallets and max. I never heard this at all. Ask vic he is part of the old foundation"

You didn't heard a lot it seems.
They wanted to regulate the bad distribution (so not only a few would have the benefits) and big wallets by making a hard fork.This would have solve this issue.Max denied it even the whole community wanted to destroy these wallets.At the end the community even tried to work without Max and Kolin were they got pissed and tried to implement diffrent positions in the community just so the hard fork wouldn't happen.
The supporters got pissed and started working on their own coin without Max and Kolin.
You are looking for a community for Quark ?Really ?Or are you just looking how to get the most money out of your own Quarks ?
Why should a community participate in a coin which was already fully mined after such a short time ?Why should they invest their money so the main benefit will have a few people WHO DID NOTHING !!!!!! ?Explain this to me.
Anybody investing in Quark must be stupid.For that money it would be better to create its own coin


"Bill Still is of good character and he is an upright man. He was new to crypto back then just as we all were and I believe everyone has grown along the way and matured. But to claim he is dishonest is not right of you."

Bill Still didnt promoted Quark because he belived in Quark but because he became 1.000.000 coins from Kolin.This really looks like a good character.People lost their savings because of that but hey still a good character right ?Not selfish or ilegal at all right ?

Nobody is saying in the sense colin got bill to pump and then they exited and burned the coin is not a scam. However the release was not a scam I was mining on the release on normal cpus just quad core on my rigs and I mined over a million in the first weeks.

This proves anyone could have mined millions.

Simple as that.

How after this point people accumulated millions maybe when it was for say for 100sats for months and weeks is anyones guess.

The distribution was fair. End of story.

I look for fair initial distribution that is the most important part.

Sure if you allow them to whales will form in any community and they have power to make or break the coin.

As for the core leaving because of the huge wallets and max. I never heard this at all. Ask vic he is part of the old foundation.

You are aware that the people from the quark foundation left quark because of max and the big wallets right ?They tried to make a hard fork which was denied.So they started creating their own coin.
There were really great guys with a lot of positiv energy however after a certain time even they had to admit that Quark has no future with Max and these Wallets.

And if you say there is no Scam i guess you are aware that what Kolin and Bill Still did were ilegal by law wouldnt it be cryptocurrency which is not regulated.So would it be that kind of promotion for anything else than cryptocurrency both would be sitting in jail for this kind of action.

Also its not hidden.People can go read the first 20 sites of this thread how people complain getting oprhans at the early stage of mining.


And you see no scam ?So all the people from Bill Still who invested in Quark real money because of the paid recommendation of Bill Still to get after 2 months not even 1% back you don't call scam ?How do you call it bad luck ?


Yeah qrkfx with his nonsense "up to the moon" shit and destroying any legit question which was directed against Quark.
You know opinions from "fuckers" who are invested in Quark should be not counted at all.We have seen in the past the value of this kind of opions and support....where exectly these guys dumped their coins quickly to take out a profit knowing that somebody else will have to pay their bill


But maybe you can explain to me the diffrence between the old Jump and Dump Quark coin and todays Quark.Where is a diffrence ?
This coin would still be dead if there would be no new hype about bitcoin.

as for the 65M that is the btc38 wallet.

Also I was on the quark launch yes actually there mining. I can confirm it was a fair launch.



1. i was there and it was a fair launch i got a lot of coins my self mining on shit normal cpus. Over a few weeks I mined over 1 million coins.
2. max probably got hardly any coins or if he did he never hardly appeared or did any development he seemed to have no interest other than a hobby
3. colin started off okay but i think dumped after he got bill involved and then on purpose seemed to self destruct quark.

4 quark had a lot of honest decent people working in the foundation they were discouraged by all the infighting.

if anyone accumulated a lot of quark the fairly mined those quark against other miners.

If someone had an early gpu miner that is a different matter but i have heard no solid evidence to corroborate that theory.

the fact your conspiracy has btc38 involved with other people owning large wallets is a bad start.

Sit back and watch what happens next. I have a lot of faith in VIC he was one of the hardest working people along with coinmama and qrkFX.


You need solid corroborating evidence of scam I see none yet.

Of course there are big questions about why max just left quark to die. I suspect like i said he was unable to mine many coins and had no incentive. I hope he has since accumulated a good chunk and now has incentive to code this back to relevance.


BTC38 is the big wallet. Please understand this before you make yourself look more foolish.

However I will say one thing even when quark was at 30000 sats someone bought millions of qrk and never sold it. I wonder why and who  ?
Very strange.

People used to complain qrk had a quick pow timeframe.... now look ICO's sell out in minutes to themselves lol

Quark was an angel. I was there mining from the very start on a few pc's and go tons anyone could have. Of course stephen B got the lions share with his cpu farm.

You can't help anyone here
If we don't work together
Are you paying for the loss of our people
The deception will be over
Only real technology can have a future

We may not be able to change your mind
what a pity