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newbie
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December 14, 2013, 05:49:28 AM
Interesting to see that 80% of altcoins are massively down atm. Quark is no exception, let's wait until Monday before we judge things Smiley
sr. member
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Vires in Numeris
December 14, 2013, 05:49:22 AM
Bye bye Quacks

ha ha you poor children think , we were relying on a single exchange that is going to list us anyhow ?

wow when you take a break from WOW , do you find the world strange and amusing ? do you find it hard to focus on one thing for more than 20 seconds ?

ha ha - you think people care what you think , that is the cutest part-
instead of shitting on people why don't you offer some actual debate?
Every single thing that comes out of your mouth just proves how much of a shill you are for quark.
You obviously hold a considerable amount of quarks, enough so that you are blind to the reality of the situation.
Maybe you are in on it? Maybe you just got lucky.
I think if I had a couple million quarks, I too, would shill for this perverse system.

Because hey, if it makes me rich, it can't be that bad right?


thing is but Mightmax - i talk and maybe you are too stupid to listen - ?

I explained how the system functioned many times - its been gone over multiple times  , did you struggle with your ABC's ?

Quark is and was the best distributed - it will only be better distributed in the future - it has a fee free/ultra low fee design for its investors / users .

It has a Forum that just surpassed 3000 full members and thousands of other guests - the "how to buy" passed 20,000 hits -

Our Volume breaks exchanges -   we love freedom and free markets -

We get new small and medium investors every day .

any other questions ?
Yes, do you believe the shit that comes out of your mouth?
Because it's working for you its good?
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
December 14, 2013, 05:49:13 AM
Bye bye Quacks

ha ha you poor children think , we were relying on a single exchange that is going to list us anyhow ?

wow when you take a break from WOW , do you find the world strange and amusing ? do you find it hard to focus on one thing for more than 20 seconds ?

ha ha - you think people care what you think , that is the cutest part-
instead of shitting on people why don't you offer some actual debate?
Every single thing that comes out of your mouth just proves how much of a shill you are for quark.
You obviously hold a considerable amount of quarks, enough so that you are blind to the reality of the situation.
Maybe you are in on it? Maybe you just got lucky.
I think if I had a couple million quarks, I too, would shill for this perverse system.

Because hey, if it makes me rich, it can't be that bad right?


Oh, you're like this guy --

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rr4eg/keiser_promoting_another_scamcoin_pump_and_dump/cdq23iy

Ok, what points do you have against Quarks?
hero member
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‘Try to be nice’
December 14, 2013, 05:43:26 AM
and we back to 4th. my coffee really nice.  Grin
Wait 5 hours, until Americans wake up and dump.
I'd recommend u to sell fast


Sooner and more they sell, sooner you will buy much more Smiley



I already bought over 100btc worth, but of prices are going down, then i'm in for another 100 btc worth.  Cool

Picked up another 100,000 during the recent fall. Thanks everyone!

Great to hear mate , wait until we have direct fiat access !

You improving that website?

within days - had some delays -
hero member
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‘Try to be nice’
December 14, 2013, 05:42:30 AM
You want to release a global currency but only create a fair entry-point for "tens of thousands"?

Almost every crypto-currency released in the last year has been released on bitcointalk.

The place is not the problem, the instamine is.
Two years into bitcoin you could still get bitcoins without having to risk capital. 6 months into quark? 96% of all quarks mined. So anyone getting in within the last 6 months has 0% risk other than their time/electricity costs. Everyone else has to pay.
Also your "fair distribution" model (if it can even be called a model) is so beyond flawed. Do you really think the majority of all coins have switched hands and there's this even distribution? please.
Trading volume follows in an order of magnitude higher the trading capital.
200 Million trade volume = 20 million exchanged.
In fact, I could just trade the same 1 million back and forth to myself.




how would I get Bitcoin without risking capital  ?

I'll just wait here for the explanation -  (this should be good chess master)
hero member
Activity: 798
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‘Try to be nice’
December 14, 2013, 05:39:53 AM
Bye bye Quacks

ha ha you poor children think , we were relying on a single exchange that is going to list us anyhow ?

wow when you take a break from WOW , do you find the world strange and amusing ? do you find it hard to focus on one thing for more than 20 seconds ?

ha ha - you think people care what you think , that is the cutest part-
instead of shitting on people why don't you offer some actual debate?
Every single thing that comes out of your mouth just proves how much of a shill you are for quark.
You obviously hold a considerable amount of quarks, enough so that you are blind to the reality of the situation.
Maybe you are in on it? Maybe you just got lucky.
I think if I had a couple million quarks, I too, would shill for this perverse system.

Because hey, if it makes me rich, it can't be that bad right?


thing is but Mightyx - i talk and maybe you are too stupid to listen - ?

I explained how the system functioned many times - its been gone over multiple times  , did you struggle with your ABC's ?

Quark is and was the best distributed - it will only be better distributed in the future - it has a fee free/ultra low fee design for its investors / users .

It has a Forum that just surpassed 3000 full members and thousands of other guests - the "how to buy" passed 20,000 hits -

Our Volume breaks exchanges -   we love freedom and free markets -

We get new small and medium investors every day .

any other questions ?
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Vires in Numeris
December 14, 2013, 05:35:29 AM
You want to release a global currency but only create a fair entry-point for "tens of thousands"?

Almost every crypto-currency released in the last year has been released on bitcointalk.

The place is not the problem, the instamine is.
Two years into bitcoin you could still get bitcoins without having to risk capital. 6 months into quark? 96% of all quarks mined. So anyone getting in within the last 6 months has 0% risk other than their time/electricity costs. Everyone else has to pay.
Also your "fair distribution" model (if it can even be called a model) is so beyond flawed. Do you really think the majority of all coins have switched hands and there's this even distribution? please.
Trading volume follows in an order of magnitude higher the trading capital.
200 Million trade volume = 20 million exchanged.
In fact, I could just trade the same 1 million back and forth to myself.


sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Bayern
December 14, 2013, 05:34:35 AM
Bye bye Quacks

ha ha you poor children think , we were relying on a single exchange that is going to list us anyhow ?

wow when you take a break from WOW , do you find the world strange and amusing ? do you find it hard to focus on one thing for more than 20 seconds ?

ha ha - you think people care what you think , that is the cutest part-
instead of shitting on people why don't you offer some actual debate?
Every single thing that comes out of your mouth just proves how much of a shill you are for quark.
You obviously hold a considerable amount of quarks, enough so that you are blind to the reality of the situation.
Maybe you are in on it? Maybe you just got lucky.
I think if I had a couple million quarks, I too, would shill for this perverse system.

Because hey, if it makes me rich, it can't be that bad right?


hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
‘Try to be nice’
December 14, 2013, 05:34:15 AM
QRK has been premined? - this topic has been beaten to dead. leave it alone please. anytime there a dump, many more happy investors.

network has not been improved? I not a tech guy but I can tell how well my wallet working. the difficulty rate tell me how strong QRK network is.

QRK concept (inflation) is really good. it find the balance to keep the system going forever.

to be specific the Reward is an "equilibrium" to try to aim for a fixed supply as opposed to a harshly deflationary design like say Bitcoin - LTC etc.

This also allows Quark to benefit its users with - fee free payment or ultra low fee payment.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Vires in Numeris
December 14, 2013, 05:32:00 AM
Bye bye Quacks

ha ha you poor children think , we were relying on a single exchange that is going to list us anyhow ?

wow when you take a break from WOW , do you find the world strange and amusing ? do you find it hard to focus on one thing for more than 20 seconds ?

ha ha - you think people care what you think , that is the cutest part-
instead of shitting on people why don't you offer some actual debate?
Every single thing that comes out of your mouth just proves how much of a shill you are for quark.
You obviously hold a considerable amount of quarks, enough so that you are blind to the reality of the situation.
Maybe you are in on it? Maybe you just got lucky.
I think if I had a couple million quarks, I too, would shill for this perverse system.

Because hey, if it makes me rich, it can't be that bad right?
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 10
Quark developer
December 14, 2013, 05:31:18 AM
You want to release a global currency but only create a fair entry-point for "tens of thousands"?

Almost every crypto-currency released in the last year has been released on bitcointalk.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
December 14, 2013, 05:29:59 AM
"...blah blah blah..."

Now , let's wait for the quak supporters to tear this post into pieces.
After they dump all their coins on the market Smiley

I fully expect to be ripped a new A-hole but it saddens me to see people suckered like this.
If we consolidated all the money/time/hashing power going into the 100+ altcoins into just 5 or 6 unique, transparent and legitimate altcoins they would all prosper more and faster.

Seriously, red dwarf coins? UScoin? Hoboknickels?
Honestly can you imagine a mother of two going into a grocery store to buy baby formula, the cashier asks her how she would like to pay and she says"
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"I would like to pay in Hobo Knickels please".
...
Nope. If it has no future, what the fuck are you doing developing the coin, mining the coin or buying the coin? Enough is enough, the more altcoins we have the more we weaken the concept.



Only 1 will survive. The government and people will choose.

As of POS -- Bitcoin has to die.
full member
Activity: 126
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December 14, 2013, 05:27:53 AM
QRK has been premined? - this topic has been beaten to dead. leave it alone please. anytime there a dump, many more happy investors.

network has not been improved? I not a tech guy but I can tell how well my wallet working. the difficulty rate tell me how strong QRK network is.

QRK concept (inflation) is really good. it find the balance to keep the system going forever.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
December 14, 2013, 05:27:45 AM
The fact is the distribution of Quark similar to Litecoin, Namecoin and Peercoin:
http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/681/top-100-wallet-concentration

I cant register in that forum.

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Untrue. Regular checkpoints were added and bug fixes were done.

https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/commits/master/src

In terms of infrastructure. Seed nodes were provided, Quark was sucessfully submitted to coinpayments.net, etc.

My wallet still shows difficulty at 0. So do all Quark forks.
sr. member
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Vires in Numeris
December 14, 2013, 05:26:45 AM
Hi

To respond to some of these claims:

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I pushed for an audit of the blockchain (http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/368/auditing-block-chain), and what we've found (http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/568/quark-faqs-compiling-fact-sheet) is incredibly disheartening.

The fact is the distribution of Quark similar to Litecoin, Namecoin and Peercoin:

http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/681/top-100-wallet-concentration

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A few people mined 95% of all quarks in a very short period of time.

Quark was announced on Bitcointalk where probably tens of thousands of users had the opportunity to mine from the very first block.

You want to release a global currency but only create a fair entry-point for "tens of thousands"?

There was no "pre-mine".

This is not true for a lot of other alt-coins.

The period of mining is similar to Infinitecoin, Extremecoin and numerous other altcoins.

Because others are doing something doesn't mean its a good idea...

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The code had not been touched in 5 months. No infrastructure. No nothing.

Untrue. Regular checkpoints were added and bug fixes were done.

https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/commits/master/src

In terms of infrastructure. Seed nodes were provided, Quark was sucessfully submitted to coinpayments.net, etc.

Activity https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/graphs/code-frequency https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/graphs/contributors

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Kolin Evans was never a "Quark Developer" (as he claimed to be in the Bill Still interview). That was a lie - Quark "enthusiast" would have been a more appropriate title.

Kolin is a Quark enthusiast.

Quote
Max, originator, has no interest in Quark leadership or development - would rather relegate such to the community to decide on a consensus basis.

I still stand by Quark belonging to its community.

Regards
Max

It's tiny community of majority shareholders?
hero member
Activity: 798
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‘Try to be nice’
December 14, 2013, 05:24:29 AM
Bye bye Quacks

ha ha you poor children think , we were relying on a single exchange that is going to list us anyhow ?

wow when you take a break from WOW , do you find the world strange and amusing ? do you find it hard to focus on one thing for more than 20 seconds ?

ha ha - you think people care what you think , that is the cutest part-
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Vires in Numeris
December 14, 2013, 05:16:03 AM
"...blah blah blah..."

Now , let's wait for the quak supporters to tear this post into pieces.
After they dump all their coins on the market Smiley

I fully expect to be ripped a new A-hole but it saddens me to see people suckered like this.
If we consolidated all the money/time/hashing power going into the 100+ altcoins into just 5 or 6 unique, transparent and legitimate altcoins they would all prosper more and faster.

Seriously, red dwarf coins? UScoin? Hoboknickels?
Honestly can you imagine a mother of two going into a grocery store to buy baby formula, the cashier asks her how she would like to pay and she says"
Quote
"I would like to pay in Hobo Knickels please".
...
Nope. If it has no future, what the fuck are you doing developing the coin, mining the coin or buying the coin? Enough is enough, the more altcoins we have the more we weaken the concept.

member
Activity: 106
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Quark developer
December 14, 2013, 05:12:20 AM
Hi

To respond to some of these claims:

Quote
I pushed for an audit of the blockchain (http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/368/auditing-block-chain), and what we've found (http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/568/quark-faqs-compiling-fact-sheet) is incredibly disheartening.

The fact is the distribution of Quark similar to Litecoin, Namecoin and Peercoin:

http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/681/top-100-wallet-concentration

Quote
A few people mined 95% of all quarks in a very short period of time.

Quark was announced on Bitcointalk where probably tens of thousands of users had the opportunity to mine from the very first block.

There was no "pre-mine".

This is not true for a lot of other alt-coins.

The period of mining is similar to Infinitecoin, Extremecoin and numerous other altcoins.

Quote
The code had not been touched in 5 months. No infrastructure. No nothing.

Untrue. Regular checkpoints were added and bug fixes were done.

https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/commits/master/src

In terms of infrastructure. Seed nodes were provided, Quark was sucessfully submitted to coinpayments.net, etc.

Quote
Kolin Evans was never a "Quark Developer" (as he claimed to be in the Bill Still interview). That was a lie - Quark "enthusiast" would have been a more appropriate title.

Kolin is a Quark enthusiast.

Quote
Max, originator, has no interest in Quark leadership or development - would rather relegate such to the community to decide on a consensus basis.

I still stand by Quark belonging to its community.

Regards
Max
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
December 14, 2013, 05:04:15 AM
Some info for all those to catch up if they haven't already:

One of the new quarkcoin devs admits to scam behavior of coin creators/early adopters https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/quark-coin-dev-says-its-a-scam-kolin-and-max-have-disappeared-370657

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I became a dev of Quark two weeks ago because I wanted to help turn that ship around. A lot of honest people put their money into Quark at Bill Still's direction and I thought that it could be saved.

I pushed for an audit of the blockchain (http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/368/auditing-block-chain), and what we've found (http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/568/quark-faqs-compiling-fact-sheet) is incredibly disheartening. We lost a very dedicated member, who also happens to be a professional Forex investment manager, because he became convinced, like I have, that, not only are the fundamentals flawed, but the development, or lack thereof, of the project has been carried out in a very, very shady way.

How the scheme works http://www.reddit.com/r/scamcoin/comments/1stzws/break_down_on_quark_scheme/
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OK so here is the Quark scheme for the noobs:

  • Set a very high number of total coins.
  • A few people mined 95% of all quarks in a very short period of time.
  • Agreement among the early miners to hold on their coins except a very few for trading on the market.
  • Give quarks to people with some decent audience (i.e. Bill Still + Max Keiser) so they can promote it.
  • Resulting a high number of buyer on the market + very few coins available for trading = high market prices in a short period of time.
  • High market prices X total mined coins (which 95% held by a small group of people) = super artificially high market capitalization.
  • Noobs look on coinmarketcap.com and say "WOW quark is very promising!"
  • Rinse and repeat 4-7
  • Dump and profit.

Shame on all QuarkCoin promoters!


Interesting discussion on quark environment http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1su2aj/the_scam_behind_quarkcoin/
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Basically, there was no real development or development team before the Bill Still interview. The code had not been touched in 5 months. No infrastructure. No nothing.

Kolin Evans was never a "Quark Developer" (as he claimed to be in the Bill Still interview). That was a lie - Quark "enthusiast" would have been a more appropriate title.

The current dev team consists of volunteers who joined after the Bill Still interview; they never had a chance to mine for any significant portion of Quark. They are expected to buy Quarks at current prices if they wish to have an investment.

There is no funding source for these new volunteer developers. They are expected to work for free.

Max, originator, has no interest in Quark leadership or development - would rather relegate such to the community to decide on a consensus basis.

Anyone who points the above out is called a quark 'hater' or 'troll', rather than an investor who has done his due diligence.

Now obviously many people have a lot invested in quarkcoin (myself included) and they won't immediately give up on the coin. This is also not saying that if you invested right this minute that you wouldn't make a profit. In fact, investors may delude themselves into keeping this farce alive for a very long time. But make no mistake, this is a game of musical chairs, someone is going to be left without a chair to sit on.

There is a reason that bitcoin has succeeded at attaining widespread appeal and been considered as a new currency by governments.
There is no way, I repeat, NO WAY, that a coin with this shady behavior and uncertain development practices can become a legitimate currency. Why would a store-owner accept a currency that has such an uncertain and shady history? Would you put your life savings into a shady currency created by the Russian mafia? Of course not. Please just think about that before you take out a loan on your house and invest it into quarks.

I am holding quarks and I will most likely buy more if there is another crash. But only with money I am prepared to lose.


Now , let's wait for the quak supporters to tear this post into pieces.
After they dump all their coins on the market Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Vires in Numeris
December 14, 2013, 04:54:54 AM
Some info for all those to catch up if they haven't already:

One of the new quarkcoin devs admits to scam behavior of coin creators/early adopters https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/quark-coin-dev-says-its-a-scam-kolin-and-max-have-disappeared-370657

Quote
I became a dev of Quark two weeks ago because I wanted to help turn that ship around. A lot of honest people put their money into Quark at Bill Still's direction and I thought that it could be saved.

I pushed for an audit of the blockchain (http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/368/auditing-block-chain), and what we've found (http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/568/quark-faqs-compiling-fact-sheet) is incredibly disheartening. We lost a very dedicated member, who also happens to be a professional Forex investment manager, because he became convinced, like I have, that, not only are the fundamentals flawed, but the development, or lack thereof, of the project has been carried out in a very, very shady way.

How the scheme works http://www.reddit.com/r/scamcoin/comments/1stzws/break_down_on_quark_scheme/
Quote
OK so here is the Quark scheme for the noobs:

  • Set a very high number of total coins.
  • A few people mined 95% of all quarks in a very short period of time.
  • Agreement among the early miners to hold on their coins except a very few for trading on the market.
  • Give quarks to people with some decent audience (i.e. Bill Still + Max Keiser) so they can promote it.
  • Resulting a high number of buyer on the market + very few coins available for trading = high market prices in a short period of time.
  • High market prices X total mined coins (which 95% held by a small group of people) = super artificially high market capitalization.
  • Noobs look on coinmarketcap.com and say "WOW quark is very promising!"
  • Rinse and repeat 4-7
  • Dump and profit.

Shame on all QuarkCoin promoters!


Interesting discussion on quark environment http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1su2aj/the_scam_behind_quarkcoin/
Quote
Basically, there was no real development or development team before the Bill Still interview. The code had not been touched in 5 months. No infrastructure. No nothing.

Kolin Evans was never a "Quark Developer" (as he claimed to be in the Bill Still interview). That was a lie - Quark "enthusiast" would have been a more appropriate title.

The current dev team consists of volunteers who joined after the Bill Still interview; they never had a chance to mine for any significant portion of Quark. They are expected to buy Quarks at current prices if they wish to have an investment.

There is no funding source for these new volunteer developers. They are expected to work for free.

Max, originator, has no interest in Quark leadership or development - would rather relegate such to the community to decide on a consensus basis.

Anyone who points the above out is called a quark 'hater' or 'troll', rather than an investor who has done his due diligence.

Now obviously many people have a lot invested in quarkcoin (myself included) and they won't immediately give up on the coin. This is also not saying that if you invested right this minute that you wouldn't make a profit. In fact, investors may delude themselves into keeping this farce alive for a very long time. But make no mistake, this is a game of musical chairs, someone is going to be left without a chair to sit on.

There is a reason that bitcoin has succeeded at attaining widespread appeal and been considered as a new currency by governments.
There is no way, I repeat, NO WAY, that a coin with this shady behavior and uncertain development practices can become a legitimate currency. Why would a store-owner accept a currency that has such an uncertain and shady history? Would you put your life savings into a shady currency created by the Russian mafia? Of course not. Please just think about that before you take out a loan on your house and invest it into quarks.

I am holding quarks and I will most likely buy more if there is another crash, but only with money I am prepared to lose.
I am treating quark purely as a short to mid-term investment, as I do not believe in its future is a legitimate currency.
Frozencoin https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fz-frozen-cpu-and-gpu-nopremine-rare-fast-transactions-update-now-366762 has the benefits of Quarkcoin (9 rounds of 6 algos) without premine/instamine and a smaller number of max coins (7,777,777). I suggest for people to look into Securecoin or Frozencoin and diversify their investments.
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