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Topic: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade - page 376. (Read 1031025 times)

newbie
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November 22, 2013, 03:17:54 AM
You mean, when you do the command "./configure" , it doesn't do anything ?
Your line with CFLAGS seems weird. maybe you should edit it rather than invoking it in a terminal ?
What are the errors ?

I know they are some problems with libcurl and the m4 file for exemple Shocked
legendary
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November 22, 2013, 02:19:24 AM


is there any server mining going on with QRK?  If so which pool is best to use?
EDIT: It's a linux server by the way.


All the pools are listed on the front page , linux should be fine , just complie, there are lots of miners , depending on your server you may solo not sure ?

I couldn't get it to compile on Linux yesterday.
I tried:
apt-get install unzip -y
cd
wget http://stonefoz.myfastmail.com/cpuminer-quark2.zip
unzip cpuminer-quark2.zip
cd cpuminer-quark2
CFLAGS="-O3 -msse2" ./configure

but it wouldn't configure... I'm on Ubuntu 12,04 LTS 64...  feel free to PM me if you can help, I'll be sure to tip some QRK if I get it going and mine some coins!
hero member
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‘Try to be nice’
November 22, 2013, 01:25:02 AM
Quark is dead

be away from this
Care to put down some BTC in a bet ?
legendary
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November 22, 2013, 01:05:45 AM
Quark is dead

be away from this
There is still an active community hard at work.

It's far from dead...
sr. member
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November 22, 2013, 01:02:25 AM
Quark is dead

be away from this
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November 21, 2013, 09:55:21 PM
I just want the Quark community to know this is not a "Pump and Dump"  - if you know me i don't "Pump and Dump".

I develop or try to in the conjunction with the Great Dev team that Quark has. 
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November 21, 2013, 11:04:52 AM
It may be a stupid questions but I didn't find anything related to mPown what is it exactly ?

MPow is momentum Proof of Work its what PTS or Protoshares is currently using , there was a bounty and gigawatt found a better implementation of it , he may want to usevthat for quark not as a test , but it would much more robust. 

See any PTS tenchinal topic .

Its the memory hard PTS work algorithm .

I'm not sure how this would work. Changing the PoW would invalidate all the miners, pools, etc. Not?

Besides botnets, I like that Quark is mineable by commodity CPUs. I've got a couple of scrypt GPU rigs which I use Quark cpu miner on. Using P2Pools, I've managed to put these processors to good use with modest returns. I like the Quark model for this reason, though I do agree that a minimum block reward would be desirable (txfees feel too much like taxes). PoS would also be nice, to reward people for holding Quark and building the network.

I do not like memory hard PTS work algorithm or XPM because it screws over the little guy. Furthermore, I am personally glad that I did not waste my precious time and (more importantly) my money in PTS after the Memorycoin debacle, as seems more and more like a scam.

Bam !

and you've twisted my rubber arm -

I agree on everything except that after a few years there should be a hard limit - i'll explain  and i think you will see soon why that will be -

i was missing the genius right in from of me and that is the Quark algo -

PoS - i see as too risky - definite 90 second blocks in the future but - ?

News coming , id rate it at medium to high excitement rate -
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November 21, 2013, 10:57:17 AM
It may be a stupid questions but I didn't find anything related to mPown what is it exactly ?

MPow is momentum Proof of Work its what PTS or Protoshares is currently using , there was a bounty and gigawatt found a better implementation of it , he may want to usevthat for quark not as a test , but it would much more robust. 

See any PTS tenchinal topic .

Its the memory hard PTS work algorithm .

I'm not sure how this would work. Changing the PoW would invalidate all the miners, pools, etc. Not?

Besides botnets, I like that Quark is mineable by commodity CPUs. I've got a couple of scrypt GPU rigs which I use Quark cpu miner on. Using P2Pools, I've managed to put these processors to good use with modest returns. I like the Quark model for this reason, though I do agree that a minimum block reward would be desirable (txfees feel too much like taxes). PoS would also be nice, to reward people for holding Quark and building the network.

I do not like memory hard PTS work algorithm or XPM because it screws over the little guy. Furthermore, I am personally glad that I did not waste my precious time and (more importantly) my money in PTS after the Memorycoin debacle, as seems more and more like a scam.
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November 21, 2013, 09:15:58 AM


is there any server mining going on with QRK?  If so which pool is best to use?
EDIT: It's a linux server by the way.


All the pools are listed on the front page , linux should be fine , just complie, there are lots of miners , depending on your server you may solo not sure ?


I think OP should be updated - some pools are switched off and my pool is named: "Kryon's Pool" Wink

Thanks Smiley I updated the pool list in the OP.
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November 21, 2013, 08:35:38 AM


is there any server mining going on with QRK?  If so which pool is best to use?
EDIT: It's a linux server by the way.


All the pools are listed on the front page , linux should be fine , just complie, there are lots of miners , depending on your server you may solo not sure ?


I think OP should be updated - some pools are switched off and my pool is named: "Kryon's Pool" Wink

ha ha - yeah i'm trying to get in touch to see if he still has that USER ha ha .
legendary
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November 21, 2013, 05:27:53 AM


is there any server mining going on with QRK?  If so which pool is best to use?
EDIT: It's a linux server by the way.


All the pools are listed on the front page , linux should be fine , just complie, there are lots of miners , depending on your server you may solo not sure ?


I think OP should be updated - some pools are switched off and my pool is named: "Kryon's Pool" Wink
hero member
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November 21, 2013, 05:22:37 AM


is there any server mining going on with QRK?  If so which pool is best to use?
EDIT: It's a linux server by the way.


All the pools are listed on the front page , linux should be fine , just complie, there are lots of miners , depending on your server you may solo not sure ?
legendary
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November 21, 2013, 04:46:17 AM
is there any server mining going on with QRK?  If so which pool is best to use?
EDIT: It's a linux server by the way.
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November 21, 2013, 03:52:43 AM
Just to explain the original thinking behind the 0.5% inflation.

After six months, with millions of coins in circulation, there was a fear that the transactions fees would not be enough of an incentive for miners to keep on mining, so it was decided to give a block a minimum reward of 1.

Another option would be to have block reward be MAX(1, TransactionFees). That way, if transaction fees become large enough, the inflation is essentially zero. Also this keeps incentive to mine when transaction fees are low.

Comments?

There are only 2.5 million coins remaining before reaching maturity. Whether by design or luck this has become one of the greenest coins to mine with a blistering transfer speed,  difficulty has reduced to that seen on the first day of mining.

With block rate of 3 per minute on average, relying on Transaction Fees alone would not appear to be possible; a block mined without a transaction would receive no payment, an unlucky individual could mine 100 blocks and receive no return.

Max Guevara, your solution of subsidising the block reward with the transaction fees is admirable; I certainly support this option.
The issue could be revisited after a year or two to establish whether the actual inflation rate was acceptable.

Yes I agree , that is as of right now  of course , and 3 years is a long time in cryptocurrency , and I further agree with you , its an amazing currency just because of the beautiful distribution , the price collapse has lead to the possibility that literally anyone including cryptohobos can have some of this great design .

This is also why it has such a great community , as the benifits are actually spread on a possible success ,

In 2 or 3 years time , it would not be an issue I feel , im with Max , code it in to be capped after that time .
legendary
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November 20, 2013, 10:36:53 PM
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would love to get some QRKs - just got wallet.
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November 20, 2013, 10:13:34 PM
Just to explain the original thinking behind the 0.5% inflation.

After six months, with millions of coins in circulation, there was a fear that the transactions fees would not be enough of an incentive for miners to keep on mining, so it was decided to give a block a minimum reward of 1.

Another option would be to have block reward be MAX(1, TransactionFees). That way, if transaction fees become large enough, the inflation is essentially zero. Also this keeps incentive to mine when transaction fees are low.

Comments?

There are only 2.5 million coins remaining before reaching maturity. Whether by design or luck this has become one of the greenest coins to mine with a blistering transfer speed,  difficulty has reduced to that seen on the first day of mining.

With block rate of 3 per minute on average, relying on Transaction Fees alone would not appear to be possible; a block mined without a transaction would receive no payment, an unlucky individual could mine 100 blocks and receive no return.

Max Guevara, your solution of subsidising the block reward with the transaction fees is admirable; I certainly support this option.
The issue could be revisited after a year or two to establish whether the actual inflation rate was acceptable.
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November 20, 2013, 09:55:58 PM
I dont see inflation as a problem. Even though,  there is a cap in Bitcoin , there is still inflation in BTC atm about 10 % pa. The problem is ,  I think ,  not having enough interest . You can only use this currency in (limited) exchanges.(I dont take into account small shops)

Exchanges that deal with quark should be increased and also there should be a direct way to convert it to fiat.

These are first steps , I think , there are lot to say but is meaningless unless above steps handled.

I agree. The most important requirement for success is being able to use the coin for other things than speculation.

Quark is now accepted at coinpayment.net so hopefully this will encourage more commerce sites to use Quark.


True. That's why I set a bounty for this.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/qrk-346k-bounty-for-websites-supporting-qrk-payments-5000-reward-325257
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November 20, 2013, 11:40:17 AM
What is the reward at now  ?
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November 20, 2013, 09:12:02 AM
I dont see inflation as a problem. Even though,  there is a cap in Bitcoin , there is still inflation in BTC atm about 10 % pa. The problem is ,  I think ,  not having enough interest . You can only use this currency in (limited) exchanges.(I dont take into account small shops)

Exchanges that deal with quark should be increased and also there should be a direct way to convert it to fiat.

These are first steps , I think , there are lot to say but is meaningless unless above steps handled.



thanks for the input - but if you look behind that idea of exchanges , first you need community and price - you have the priorities out of order ...

1.  I'm tackling the price issue , then we will work from there .
2. QRK has the community and the nice Logo - and a nice name in my opinion.  

3. After all that comes exchanges etc.  

I'm plus one +1 with Max on the emission system so it will have to be done with a hard fork .



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November 20, 2013, 09:02:42 AM
I dont see inflation as a problem. Even though,  there is a cap in Bitcoin , there is still inflation in BTC atm about 10 % pa. The problem is ,  I think ,  not having enough interest . You can only use this currency in (limited) exchanges.(I dont take into account small shops)

Exchanges that deal with quark should be increased and also there should be a direct way to convert it to fiat.

These are first steps , I think , there are lot to say but is meaningless unless above steps handled.

I agree. The most important requirement for success is being able to use the coin for other things than speculation.

Quark is now accepted at coinpayment.net so hopefully this will encourage more commerce sites to use Quark.
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