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Topic: [ANN] QRL - Announcing the Quantum Resistant Ledger - page 5. (Read 186351 times)

jr. member
Activity: 57
Merit: 1
Be my guest and name that competition

Newbie troll alert. Skip

These mindless shills are hurting qrl in the long run. The mutual admiration parade and lack of accountability (pos -> pow, founder dumping coins unannounced, mainnet delays, minimal spend on amateur publicity, etc.) account for why qrl has slipped in market uptake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHGe8DoIcgc  Judge for yourself

Dude, what are you doing? Way to welcome a new guy. You had your opinion and he asks you a simple question. You refuse to answer, call him a newbie as if there is some sort of ranking system that gives you the right to ask questions or not and and then start off about him being a trol? Way to "contribute".

And how is this a shill? How is his question hurting the project? And how are you helping it going forward?  It's cool and helpfull to have critique on a project. But what you bring up has been discussed and answered by the team several times. They have been held responsible and they have responded.

Founder used his funds to fund the project, not to buy himself a Lambo. Presale funds could be used after the foundation was set up properly. Vitalik did the same in the early ETH days. Besides that, I rather have that stack out of the way (almost two years ago now) Instead of him selling at higher prices. They have been held accountable and explained in full. You may not agree, but it's been almost two years ago. Get over it.

ETH still hasn't moved to PoS yet either. You holding QRL to a higher standard then ETH? Besides QRL team has been clear on why they chose to start up as PoW. PoS took longer and has some security downsides. At least main net is launched now. Development now is focussed on the hard fork in june / july and smart contracts. PoS will be in development later and it won't be pure PoS, but a safer variation.

All projects delay. Remember progress on ETH, especialy in the beginning? How about BTC lightning network? How about pretty much avery other single project out there.

And the spening on marketing.. Yeah if you would manage this project, funding would dry up within a few years of shilling. If they wait a few years, QRL has matured on the technical side, and besides that the whole market is back up and they can spend 10 x on marketing of what they economize now by staying low budget. Paying for article mentions and exchange listings is short term policy. It's spending money on fried air... In e bear market... Top notch advice to go full on in marketing now.
full member
Activity: 338
Merit: 101
Be my guest and name that competition

Newbie troll alert. Skip

These mindless shills are hurting qrl in the long run. The mutual admiration parade and lack of accountability (pos -> pow, founder dumping coins unannounced, mainnet delays, minimal spend on amateur publicity, etc.) account for why qrl has slipped in market uptake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHGe8DoIcgc  Judge for yourself
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
Be my guest and name that competition
full member
Activity: 338
Merit: 101
You giving out scores to the competition. I asked you to name the competition. You reply by not naming the competition but just rambling on about me needing to prove myself being a newbie. If that is the quality of post history that gives you a full member status, I'd rather stay a newbie.

Be my guest and remain a newbie.
newbie
Activity: 18
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You giving out scores to the competition. I asked you to name the competition. You reply by not naming the competition but just rambling on about me needing to prove myself being a newbie. If that is the quality of post history that gives you a full member status, I'd rather stay a newbie.
full member
Activity: 338
Merit: 101

Eh, your best argument is that you have a bigger post history. I'm a "newbie" need to proof myself for your highness.
At this point there is no serious competition for QRL. As in: there is no blockchain that is quantum resistant besides Mochimo. And there is no blockchain that shows serious proof of becomming quantum resistant anywhere in the near future. If you disagree, just name the "competition".

What are you, newbie? A shill for Adam Koltun?

Find me a post where I said qrl is technically deficient, and then we'll talk.
newbie
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newbie
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So you're complaining about marketing, but then consider a technically lesser quality project that actually has no marketing at all, a serious competitor... Mkay
Your lack of reading comprehension is fascinating. Your straw men, juvenile.

Maybe you do have some substance to contribute. Right now you have an awful lot to prove.

Eh, your best argument is that you have a bigger post history. I'm a "newbie" need to proof myself for your highness.
At this point there is no serious competition for QRL. As in: there is no blockchain that is quantum resistant besides Mochimo. And there is no blockchain that shows serious proof of becomming quantum resistant anywhere in the near future. If you disagree, just name the "competition".
full member
Activity: 338
Merit: 101
So you're complaining about marketing, but then consider a technically lesser quality project that actually has no marketing at all, a serious competitor... Mkay
Your lack of reading comprehension is fascinating. Your straw men, juvenile.

Maybe you do have some substance to contribute. Right now you have an awful lot to prove.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
I'm serious, try me. I'll debunk all of them.  
 (And zero marketing.)

You debunked yourself.

So you're complaining about marketing, but then consider a technically lesser quality project that actually has no marketing at all, a serious competitor... Mkay
full member
Activity: 338
Merit: 101
I'm serious, try me. I'll debunk all of them.   
 (And zero marketing.)

You debunked yourself.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
"Score is 0-4 to the competitors, each an own goal."

Name 1 serious QR competitor.

"Serious query" from newbie.  Skip!

I'm serious, try me. I'll debunk all of them. Only Mochimo is quantum resistant, but they have WOTSignature downsides like IOTA and other downsides due to the use of FIFO and standardized fees. (And zero marketing.)
full member
Activity: 338
Merit: 101
"Score is 0-4 to the competitors, each an own goal."

Name 1 serious QR competitor.

"Serious query" from newbie.  Skip!
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
"Score is 0-4 to the competitors, each an own goal."

Name 1 serious QR competitor.
full member
Activity: 338
Merit: 101
https://medium.com/the-quantum-resistant-ledger/reflecting-on-developerweek-2019-b539dc30a146

Takeaways from this stupid joke of a conference report:
-DeveloperWeek is a great conference! The organizers are so professional! Let's all mark all our calendars for this conference!
- In other conferences QRL only gets 30 minutes at most. Now QRL gets 50 minutes!
- We wanted to meet up, but too few wanted it badly enough to meet up!
- We will attend fewer conferences in 2019!


Score is 0-4 to the competitors, each an own goal. Surprisingly Koltun forgot to talk about the color of the shirt he wore to the conference.

There is no highlight that any real hodler or supporter wants to hear. The brains at QRL must be in denial if they think this "My First Trip to the Zoo" kind of corporate communication is the way to encourage adoption.
full member
Activity: 338
Merit: 101

But I agree the visible marketing is the weak point of QRL right now. But at the same time, they don't have a huge stack of $ and the value of marketing is temporary, while the value of development is long term. And long term is what they aim at.

They send guys to Developer's Week, but are they pitching their talk to developers and getting projects onboarded? Now it just looks like more philosophical, horoscopic word salad.
legendary
Activity: 1775
Merit: 1032
Value will be measured in sats
How do you know if your shitcoin is actually quantum resistant?




The question is why you need such a shitcoin. They are like nuts jehovah's witnesses waiting for a great apocalypse.


jehovah's witnesses do have thoughts of the apocalypse are often on their minds...haha

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Heyyyyyy, Sammy how are you. Acid as usual? For anyone new to Sammy, check out his post history, which is most accurately described as "his cesspool of vomit over anything he comes across".

@Sammy, if Jehova’s are lead by the National Academy of Sciences and the National Security Agency, then your comparison kind of makes sense. But on the other hand Jehova’s are just Jehova’s and people invested in QRL are usually quite diversified.

The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) has brought together a group of scientists of over 70 people from different interconnecting fields in quantum computing who, as a group, have come up with a close to 200 pages report on the development, funding, implications and upcoming challenges for quantum computing development. The NAS doesn't make an estimate on when the risk for current cryptography would occur. They acknowledge this is quite impossible due to the fact there are a lot of unknowns and due to the fact that they have to base any findings only on publicly available information, obviously excluding any non available advancements from commercial companies and national efforts. So they acknowledge that whether you claim it will occur within the next few years or in two decades, this would be best described as guessing. What the NAS lacks in guessing, they make up in advice. They have a very clear advice:

"Even if a quantum computer that can decrypt current cryptographic ciphers is more than a decade off, the hazard of such a machine is high enough—and the time frame for transitioning to a new security protocol is sufficiently long and uncertain—that prioritization of the development, standardization, and deployment of post-quantum cryptography is critical for minimizing the chance of a potential security and privacy disaster."

The National Security Agency (NSA) has made a threat assessment in 2015. In August 2015, NSA announced that it is planning to transition "in the not too distant future" (statement of 2015) to a new cipher suite that is resistant to quantum attacks. "Unfortunately, the growth of elliptic curve use has bumped up against the fact of continued progress in the research on quantum computing, necessitating a re-evaluation of our cryptographic strategy." NSA advised: "For those partners and vendors that have not yet made the transition to Suite B algorithms, we recommend not making a significant expenditure to do so at this point but instead to prepare for the upcoming quantum resistant algorithm transition.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_Suite_B_Cryptography#cite_note-nsa-suite-b-1

What these organizations both advice is to start taking action. Not for an apocalypse, but for the next level in cryptography. QRL does just that, it has build a strong foundation and is building on that quantum resistant foundation.

jr. member
Activity: 57
Merit: 1
How do you know if your shitcoin is actually quantum resistant?




The question is why you need such a shitcoin. They are like nuts jehovah's witnesses waiting for a great apocalypse.

Heyyyyyy, Sammy how are you. Acid as usual? For anyone new to Sammy, check out his post history, which is most accurately described as "his cesspool of vomit over anything he comes across".

@Sammy, if Jehova’s are lead by the National Academy of Sciences and the National Security Agency, then your comparison kind of makes sense. But on the other hand Jehova’s are just Jehova’s and people invested in QRL are usually quite diversified.

The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) has brought together a group of scientists of over 70 people from different interconnecting fields in quantum computing who, as a group, have come up with a close to 200 pages report on the development, funding, implications and upcoming challenges for quantum computing development. The NAS doesn't make an estimate on when the risk for current cryptography would occur. They acknowledge this is quite impossible due to the fact there are a lot of unknowns and due to the fact that they have to base any findings only on publicly available information, obviously excluding any non available advancements from commercial companies and national efforts. So they acknowledge that whether you claim it will occur within the next few years or in two decades, this would be best described as guessing. What the NAS lacks in guessing, they make up in advice. They have a very clear advice:

"Even if a quantum computer that can decrypt current cryptographic ciphers is more than a decade off, the hazard of such a machine is high enough—and the time frame for transitioning to a new security protocol is sufficiently long and uncertain—that prioritization of the development, standardization, and deployment of post-quantum cryptography is critical for minimizing the chance of a potential security and privacy disaster."

The National Security Agency (NSA) has made a threat assessment in 2015. In August 2015, NSA announced that it is planning to transition "in the not too distant future" (statement of 2015) to a new cipher suite that is resistant to quantum attacks. "Unfortunately, the growth of elliptic curve use has bumped up against the fact of continued progress in the research on quantum computing, necessitating a re-evaluation of our cryptographic strategy." NSA advised: "For those partners and vendors that have not yet made the transition to Suite B algorithms, we recommend not making a significant expenditure to do so at this point but instead to prepare for the upcoming quantum resistant algorithm transition.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_Suite_B_Cryptography#cite_note-nsa-suite-b-1

What these organizations both advice is to start taking action. Not for an apocalypse, but for the next level in cryptography. QRL does just that, it has build a strong foundation and is building on that quantum resistant foundation.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
How do you know if your shitcoin is actually quantum resistant?




The question is why you need such a shitcoin. They are like nuts jehovah's witnesses waiting for a great apocalypse.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
Does anyone know the spot market where can buy QRL without KYC and identification? Upbit and bittrex it is necessary to pass KYC, forkdelta no orders....

You can mine that shit on Nicehash I guess, the margin is tiny but you need to double check.
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