[ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology - page 149.

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Quote from: matjas on August 27, 2017, 03:29:16 AM

If i invest in a real estate with REAL coin as soon as it will be available on your platform, how long it will take for me to get my first payment and how fast will i break even? I know it will be different for every asset but you surely made some calculations.

you are asking rather difficult questions, I guess no one will be able to respond it.

every ico is a "donation": you must believe and support the project to make it a good return!

I think it's safe to say it's gonna be a while. Real estate is a slow burn process, low risk high reward in the long term

Low Risk, high reward is a good think, even if it's scaled on long term investment. Most ppl also invest in coins for long term, so it would be a great project to invest in

You nailed it mate, REAL offers a two pronged investment platform, one is with its Real Estate business model through rents, etc..., the other is through Ether earnings at potential market value.

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Quote from: Sowik on August 27, 2017, 08:42:56 AM

If they can truly bring 12-20% annual profits this project will be awesome! I might put a big amount of my savings there if it works like they say it will.

As long as the 12-20% wouldnt get eaten by the pumps and dumps of whales. I do not hope, that the token will get a speculation asset. But when the value of the token would be more important than his real sense/task, giving the holders a divident, it could get really dangerous for the development in the future

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If they can truly bring 12-20% annual profits this project will be awesome! I might put a big amount of my savings there if it works like they say it will.

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Quote from: the_donald on August 27, 2017, 05:51:11 AM

Quote from: yeswepump on August 27, 2017, 05:09:31 AM

Quote from: matjas on August 27, 2017, 03:29:16 AM

If i invest in a real estate with REAL coin as soon as it will be available on your platform, how long it will take for me to get my first payment and how fast will i break even? I know it will be different for every asset but you surely made some calculations.

you are asking rather difficult questions, I guess no one will be able to respond it.

every ico is a "donation": you must believe and support the project to make it a good return!

I think it's safe to say it's gonna be a while. Real estate is a slow burn process, low risk high reward in the long term

Low Risk, high reward is a good think, even if it's scaled on long term investment. Most ppl also invest in coins for long term, so it would be a great project to invest in

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Quote from: areschen on August 24, 2017, 06:24:09 PM

Real estate investment return cycle is very long , real estate transaction is not easy , but the rate of return is stable.
I think the project can solve some of problem in transaction

that is the most important thing in my opinion the stability and certainty of the return...

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I think we've got a very experienced team behind REAL with regards to real estate business and I'm confident they can achieve REAL's long term goal of profitability to its stakeholders definitely.

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Quote from: yeswepump on August 27, 2017, 05:09:31 AM

Quote from: matjas on August 27, 2017, 03:29:16 AM

If i invest in a real estate with REAL coin as soon as it will be available on your platform, how long it will take for me to get my first payment and how fast will i break even? I know it will be different for every asset but you surely made some calculations.

you are asking rather difficult questions, I guess no one will be able to respond it.

every ico is a "donation": you must believe and support the project to make it a good return!

I think it's safe to say it's gonna be a while. Real estate is a slow burn process, low risk high reward in the long term

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Quote from: matjas on August 27, 2017, 03:29:16 AM

If i invest in a real estate with REAL coin as soon as it will be available on your platform, how long it will take for me to get my first payment and how fast will i break even? I know it will be different for every asset but you surely made some calculations.

you are asking rather difficult questions, I guess no one will be able to respond it.

every ico is a "donation": you must believe and support the project to make it a good return!

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If i invest in a real estate with REAL coin as soon as it will be available on your platform, how long it will take for me to get my first payment and how fast will i break even? I know it will be different for every asset but you surely made some calculations.

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Quote from: imtiazmahmood on August 27, 2017, 12:02:50 AM

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Quote from: imtiazmahmood on August 26, 2017, 09:08:41 AM

someone know real token which exchange will be available after ICO? and what distribution when will be distribute to investors? after ico or same time?

Not sure, but projects like this are usually listed after ICO on exchanges like novacoin cryptopia or livecoin, so I would be expect the same for this one.

Not sure, but it seems to me that a project that interested bitcoinsuisse, will be listed not only on this exchanges. Wink

they said they will list on gatecoin and second they will on bittrex i think. i prefer livecoin exchanges is also good. real project should try also on livecoin. that is also good choice i think.

bittrex is my favorite exchange but also livecoin is not bad at all,i hope it will be listed on both...

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Quote from: mike0182 on August 26, 2017, 11:50:29 AM

Quote from: LifeOfDoge on August 26, 2017, 10:32:45 AM

Quote from: imtiazmahmood on August 26, 2017, 09:08:41 AM

someone know real token which exchange will be available after ICO? and what distribution when will be distribute to investors? after ico or same time?

Not sure, but projects like this are usually listed after ICO on exchanges like novacoin cryptopia or livecoin, so I would be expect the same for this one.

Not sure, but it seems to me that a project that interested bitcoinsuisse, will be listed not only on this exchanges. Wink

they said they will list on gatecoin and second they will on bittrex i think. i prefer livecoin exchanges is also good. real project should try also on livecoin. that is also good choice i think.

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Quote from: imtiazmahmood on August 26, 2017, 09:08:41 AM

someone know real token which exchange will be available after ICO? and what distribution when will be distribute to investors? after ico or same time?

It is already confirmed to be listed on Gatecoin in september: https://blog.gatecoin.com/blockchain-asset-weekly-25-august-2017-6ec991c0eed0

I personally expect bigger exchanges to follow and i hope Bittrex as well. But i know Bittrex can be troublesome to get listed. In an interview with one of the people from REAL he mentioned they hired someone especially to market them to Exchanges. A really good sign!

well that is good gatecoin is good exchanges but to hard to use gatecoin echanges because they approve account too much requirement like make picture yourself with sign ur name show in picture. blaw blaq something like that. i am using bittrex and poloniex and livecoin those are very good exchanges also. in exchanges i like livecoin exchange. if real list on livecoin that will be great also.

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Quote from: donberna on August 26, 2017, 08:51:07 AM

Do you know anything about business? Any startup that receives funding, for example venture capital, uses it to fund operations. Any company needs to pay its employees, where do you think that money should come from? Only mature companies are able to pay employee salaries from their revenues. Using ICO proceeds (or any type of seed capital) for salaries is literally extremely common. Get your business knowledge in check before spreading nonsense

You clearly know nothing about real estate. I could explain it to you, but I don't think you'd get the point and I don't want to waste my time.

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Quote from: SEELE^^01 on August 26, 2017, 06:08:13 PM

i really see a lot of realestate projects lately. for example relest, too.

real is interesting because afaik their maingoal is to esatablish business in spain. it should be work out much better than in the philippines where relest is working on his project.

how bout a airdrop

to bind your customers more closely to yourself.

I also feel that way, a lot of things are similar to this project. . .
Which determines the success of the project is pulling the development of real estate in preparing the project, therefore we must choose which one really has good potential

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i really see a lot of realestate projects lately. for example relest, too.

real is interesting because afaik their maingoal is to esatablish business in spain. it should be work out much better than in the philippines where relest is working on his project.

how bout a airdrop

to bind your customers more closely to yourself.

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Quote from: magisterr on August 26, 2017, 05:01:04 PM

Just looked at their roadmap.. They want to launch beta-platform in october? So fast? Hm..
Whay you mean under "first investmens" after lanch beta-platform? Its first contract? Huh

Well the development started in March, so it would be no problem to start in October, or? If you have an project on a market which is full of competition you want to be fast to get a good position.

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Just looked at their roadmap.. They want to launch beta-platform in october? So fast? Hm..
Whay you mean under "first investmens" after lanch beta-platform? Its first contract? Huh

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Quote from: Korsakopf on August 26, 2017, 04:24:05 PM

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]This wouldn't make any sense at all. The real estate is tokenized. It doesn't matter how much the coin is worth, it represents the appropriate share in a real estate no matter what. However, it should be assumed that the value of the coin also reflects the value of the properties, which is then again difficult to handle. Do those coins get any kind of specific tag, for example property 1 etc.?

How could this one didn't make sense? You already said that it should be assumed that the value of the coin reflects the value of the properties, then it will make sense.
The value of the properties is directly proportional to the value of coin and vice versa.

I already answered this thing.
"The value of the properties is directly proportional to the value of coin and vice versa."
That things matter when you want to buy REAL token from another currencies. The value of the properties are depend on the amount of REAL tokens, not the value of the tokens.

Ok I don't understand this... If you have a single token that is supposed to reflect a property's value, how are you going to deal with all the tokens reflecting fluctuant value of various properties? You either need a clear identifier of a token per property, or you have a problem. It's as simple as that.

It's explained pretty well in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_50nZyUc3KA

As i understand it, once a property is listed on the platform, the current value of the property will be translated into a X amount of REAL tokens. So even if you haven't used your REAL tokens to purchase a part/stake of a property, the token has value because you CAN use it to purchase part of a property. And those property's had inherit value. Sure housing markets fluctuate, but its nothing compared to normal crypto. And given that they are starting with the housing market in Spain, that is a housing market that is currently increasing in value a lot.

It doesn't matter. There are goods and bars about a blockchain based property token. Markets become faster and more fungible. That's a good thing and a bad thing at the same time. Because whales could literally control for housing prices, which would be insanely bad. Imagine someone holds a majority of tokens in the network, would that person be able to manipulate even houses backing the tokens (or vice versa)? It is a kind of securitization with even stronger potential dynamics than during the MBS crisis. I am not saying it is bad per se, I just feel this kind of uncertainty that tells me that this could blow up significantly if the tiny inexperienced crypto market fails to correctly price properties.

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Quote from: BonTonPlease on August 26, 2017, 04:05:40 PM

Quote from: toolucky98 on August 26, 2017, 06:09:06 AM

Quote from: Coin_trader on August 26, 2017, 05:59:09 AM

Quote from: BonTonPlease on August 26, 2017, 05:54:35 AM

]This wouldn't make any sense at all. The real estate is tokenized. It doesn't matter how much the coin is worth, it represents the appropriate share in a real estate no matter what. However, it should be assumed that the value of the coin also reflects the value of the properties, which is then again difficult to handle. Do those coins get any kind of specific tag, for example property 1 etc.?

How could this one didn't make sense? You already said that it should be assumed that the value of the coin reflects the value of the properties, then it will make sense.
The value of the properties is directly proportional to the value of coin and vice versa.

I already answered this thing.
"The value of the properties is directly proportional to the value of coin and vice versa."
That things matter when you want to buy REAL token from another currencies. The value of the properties are depend on the amount of REAL tokens, not the value of the tokens.

Ok I don't understand this... If you have a single token that is supposed to reflect a property's value, how are you going to deal with all the tokens reflecting fluctuant value of various properties? You either need a clear identifier of a token per property, or you have a problem. It's as simple as that.

It's explained pretty well in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_50nZyUc3KA

As i understand it, once a property is listed on the platform, the current value of the property will be translated into a X amount of REAL tokens. So even if you haven't used your REAL tokens to purchase a part/stake of a property, the token has value because you CAN use it to purchase part of a property. And those property's had inherit value. Sure housing markets fluctuate, but its nothing compared to normal crypto. And given that they are starting with the housing market in Spain, that is a housing market that is currently increasing in value a lot.

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Quote from: ammosov on August 26, 2017, 12:52:30 PM

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supporting real for a long time. i have a question. how will you distribute the dividends actually??? and may i know which country based company is REAL???

Dividends/profits are paid back in Ether, not REAL. I think this is all done by using smart contracts. The trading and selling of the rights to the investments (RPPs) will be done on the platform. I'm not sure if this will be done using traditional centralized exchange mechanisms or also by smart contracts.

Most of the team are from Spain, so I assume the company will be based there as well.

You are partially correct, REAL startup is incorporated out of Singapore, but is recruiting workers out of both, Barcelona, and Singapore. Unfortunately, it is not open to U.S based investors, based on the SEC securities regulations. Coinfabrik is the company who is handling the security audits. The company is legit, it has a U.E.N code, and a physical address.
The more tokens put forth into the crowd-funding of real estate properties, the fewer tokens will be available for circulation, in turn, driving the price of tokens up, causing a natural growth in initial liquidy. There is income to be made all around with this unique economy, from the tokens themselves, to the rental properties, and then the hard sales made from selling the property outright, which reimburses you your invested stake of tokens, plus generated profits from the sale. I can't invest, but like I said, I'm following this campaign closely, in order to learn, seeing how I've always been interested in real estate.

It does not make sense, If I understand it correctly I can buy the REAL tokens on the open market eventually, but as an American the SEC says I cannot invest in the ICO? Huh

Crazy Crazy world.

There is a possibility you cannot buy in a secondary market either. Or, rather, while you can, REAL can be liable in the US for it, so it might restrict ownership to non-US persons.

What happens is that according to the American laws you can not invest in ICO, if you move virtual currency, making it physically in the dollar in the future, inside the Country, but to be a holder of '' '' let's say so, I believe not Is a problem, since the world of crypo grows every day and becomes increasingly integrated with physical currencies. I would particularly not find a way to grab some, Grin

albeit in secret, and not use them to legality.
I think of what will be done with these Laws, when the world economy finally surrenders, and believe me, will yield to that integration. It will be a delay for many, and an excellent climb for today's investors $$$
There are many accessible steps today, and Real is at the top

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