Topic: [ANN] Sfards:SF100, the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner is accepting pre-order now - page 7. (Read 129801 times)

Good point....as a 'greedy' high end owner of two KNC Titan(s) that have ROI'd I HOPE you Sir are correct (hell its all about me I'll fess up)

but really board problems etc that I had not heard....although they always seemed to me to be a bigger deal as a sha-256 miner then scrypt ..er from the bulk chip sales
point of view...assuming they are doing such

but yeah shift from alts would be nice that means that LTC difficulty will 'eventually' flatline again and the Titans insane need to make them selves into doorstops will be
less about difficulty and more about their insane need to try and suicide (knc raspberry pi piece of crap 8th grade science fair project that they are)

but anyway......anyone hear of any big ass miners to make me less smug about the above and maybe weep a little bit and sob? I've heard zip...just the sfards supposed
maybe chips and something about innosilicon chips but that sounded (if i remember right) like 14nm vaporware for now

well it could be worse I could have kept the neptune orig order ...no way I'd be running a knc neptune for 10 months with btc difficulty ..so at least i missed that bullet
(and robbery) that knc diverted pre-orders for 4 months of those to the old knc swedish data hall)

so it goes

my setup if anyone is interested

lostgonzo.imgur.com

future doorstops (note: knc jupiter 550gh btc miner on bottom shelf is off...is currently fulfilling the function of gravity assist device to keep workbench down)




You too could also be correct and the fact sfards waited till AFTER halving to really move any product seems to back your claim on quality issues.

Anyway ..just want it to flatline for difficulty (LTC) and rise in price (LTC) due to halving....(I got needs)

and IF it comes to pass some big ass scrypt miner farm comes to be or another data hall based mining chip solution for scrypt comes to pass .. I would at least like to
know about it ...rather then just look at difficulty on LTC and scratch head ...I will need a period of time to prepare for 'mourning' the demise of my Titan(s) to doorstop
status...would like the 'illusion' of control ..that at least I could see that semi truck coming to run me down a bit down the road .....rather then the suspense of wtf is
going on with difficulty and LTC. (hey its a pet peeve in reality it don't matter much what eventually will be ...will be ...but still )

 You're not factoring in that LTC price jumped a TON shortly before the LTC halfing - I'm pretty sure THAT is what drove some folks to turn lots of older, once-unprofitable miners back on - they're now PROFITABLE again, if only a little.

 My suspicion is that the original batch of SF100 units were so poorly designed at the board level that even SFARDS realised they needed to FIX it before they would be able to sell a significant quantity.

Its neither...they had huge issues with yield and board problems. LTC diff being where it is is simply the extra ALT scrypt hash that jumped on straight LTC after halving.

I feel the same.  It goes from hey we have by a good amount the best chip for LTC around! Here are some fun giveaways... to nothing not a word about sales.  And sales are important to stay alive as a company.

I think 1 or 2 is very likely.  And also likely they wish they never would have announced as they choose an option besides going to hobby customers.

they are either 1) mining them selves or thru partnerships with other china scrypt farms or 2) mining themselves and also selling chips in bulk in china for other data halls

but yeah.... LTC difficulty is going up after halving....so there is 'new' stealth equip/chips out there someplace imho ......... we will be the last to know

Crazy I would never of guessed those dev kits might be a money maker.  Don't remember price but it was not cheap.  I'm thinking chip by itself was pretty high so I doubt ton's of devs have it.

I still cant wrap my mind around a company getting a chip made, a miner made, then going silent.  Does not make sense.

I think a big thing would be if SFards is making and shipping chips.  I don't think with the silence chips will be sold at this point to general public.  There are the lucky ones who ordered them early on with dev kits and such. 

That is a good question anyone that was working on a project have you tried to buy chips from SFards in any quantity lately?

Hello all a little of topic?

Hey @J4bberwock how is the progress on the replacement board for the old gridseed orbs.

Thanks.

Yeah they went the KNC route

I suspect they originally had the gameplan of selling them like gridseeds to public.   One thing they might not of got this time was a just extreme profit.  If you remember the blades and scrypt when first started going asics gear was HIGH and it dropped overnight in price and kept dropping.

So either they could not make chip's and miner for a decent profit, or they decided to mine internally.   I really think since they had chips that beat anything out there they might have saw a long term profit mining themself.  Assuming they have cheap electricity (which we can since china).  They have the most efficient LTC chip out, heck no one else is even talking about devloping a scrypt chip ATM that I know of.

So if they made a batch or two filled up a small data center they could capitalize on LTC.  So I think either they gave up or decided to go internal (or some bulk buyer).   But I really don't think gave up as they did make the chip.

Why even make an announcement here if you don't intend to sell product to the community.  You could have trippled your sales with the interest alone.  Your last venture may have been your last venture I'm afraid!

Plus the total lack of responce from them on this OFFICIAL thread for their product.  I do think the`re dead 

Here lies SFARD ``RIP``

Looks like S7 turned out to be the final nail on their coffin.  S7 is so much better in terms of power efficiency and offers much better chances of breaking even rather than Stards piece of crap.

 They had plenty of money from when they were still operating (in part) as Gridseed.

 I'm hoping that they have FINALLY realised that crap board designs cost them a TON even if/when the chip works well, and decided to yank the existing design to redo it - the very small amount of feedback I've seen on the first batch units from folks that bought them imply some really POOR board-level design work, right down there with the crap design on the early Orbs and the "blades" and very bad reliability as a result.

Yeah this is what asic miners do now..put out some product to promote then basically run a giant data hall with cheap elec

knc, bitfury, spondoolies, sfards, etc etc etc

much more $$$ in getting big IPO $$ out of newbie IPO types vs home miner types imho

It's so weird they did the R/D and got a chip.  Most failures never get to the chip level   

I still wonder if they decided to keep internal.  It's the best LTC chip out there, and they could mine internally and have a monopoly.  Since they only sold 5 to a few sellers they make a small cheap data center of these in China they could win over time.

Llike I said, 2 months & 50+ pages ago:


All the sfardites have moved to the SPT thread.........

So, can sfards be considered a failure?

I'm officially "un-watching" this thread now.  Good luck S'Fards...

I doubt it really matters in this thread. They have been too quiet for to long.

I personally wonder if they are even working on it at this point.  There were very social at first now nothing.