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Topic: [ANN] sgminer v5 - optimized X11/X13/NeoScrypt/Lyra2RE/etc. kernel-switch miner - page 185. (Read 877859 times)

sr. member
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Fucking knew it; it had to be 14.6RC1
sr. member
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About betarig. I change the no-submit-stale to false and even lowerd the intensity and use my 290x for the total of 10mh/s ,but stil fluctuate ..I did what I can so it's got to be annother issue not at my side.


The big fluctuations are caused because the pool of your renter is letting your rig hash at a very high difficulty. The average should work out OK but the graphs look shitty. Check your SGminer and you will see they are running at diff 0.5 or something in that area. Nothing you can do about it, other than asking your renter to lower the diff at the pool.

Thanks for ur info.
I didn't checked the diff, will check it the next time..at tmb the diff is much lower 0.005-0.1

bullus, can you isolate the exact customized miner that built that darkcoin-mod bin that gets us 6+ ?

I can't tell if it's 6-25, -28, -39, or -30

Also, I think around that time, only 14.6RC1 was available; I'm convinced that .bin was built with different drivers.

Still copied the aznboy build bin to other miners.

No I'm with you bullus.  Hear me out though.

I have every build of aznboy84's including the very first one where he cloned the 6-25 prerelease off of nicehash and created bitblock.cl

I'm trying to isolate which version of his miners can reproduce the darkcoin-mod .bin UPON CREATION, reliably, and see if we can't track down why, with the matching source.  The problem with his github is he didn't know how to use git until about the 30th, so all of his files are LOCAL UPLOADS with no versioning.

If I'm on 14.7 and do all those mods and still have now dropped to 5.6 - 5.7, then this has to be a combination of build factors AND the drivers that were available at that time.  Since 14.6RC2 came out late during that weekend, I wasn't using it, I was using 14.6RC1; which means there may be a reason why that uploaded .bin of yours ONLY WORKS STABLY on ONE RIG.  If you put that .bin across to other cards like a Tri-X OC 290X, it wrecks them SICK in a matter of 15 minutes, or even worse -> HUNG RIG.

I want to know which version built that badass .bin, and then recreate and build bins for my 2 other rigs that contain Tri-X OC, and one that has mixed Tri-X OC and standard Sapphire 290X.

This latest build from 7-25 is rock fucking stable, but now we're barely coming up with 5.6 across 3 cards, which is a vast improvement from getting 5.4|5.4|5.0 which is why I had opened https://github.com/sgminer-dev/sgminer/issues/347

This can't be some mystery miner; one of us has to have this shit; and it's hard for you to share only your bin when it might not apply to others; I'm lucky in that I have one rig clocking in at 6.1|6.0|5.9 but 2 other rigs hodling only at 5.6|5.6|5.5 (which, is still an improvement)

Yes I've done luffa 1 and keccak unroll 6 and hamsi 7 (irrelevant to x11)

As promised..my bins are also there, so u can back them up . The date the bin was created was 16-07-2014
https://mega.co.nz/#!jIlVRDRI!5WKjkXa2n-wFX9ixhh_wlRVPQERQrmv-_-XL4heYo_c

edit
When it compile a new bin, I only have 5910kh/s with 14.7drivers..I must have use 14.6rc2 or rc1..

edit2
I finally figured it out which driver that high bin was created with ...14.6rc1 !
I already installed 14.7, so I used the ocl/opencl from rc1 and copied it to the aznboy miner and tada it was hashing >6.1mh/s.. put it on other miners en tadaa 6230kh/s

gonna upload the opencl/ocl drivers for u lazy ..

here u have it
https://mega.co.nz/#F!PdEwCb6J!Y15oi6ozLjhPnacQUeY6qw
sr. member
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About betarig. I change the no-submit-stale to false and even lowerd the intensity and use my 290x for the total of 10mh/s ,but stil fluctuate ..I did what I can so it's got to be annother issue not at my side.


The big fluctuations are caused because the pool of your renter is letting your rig hash at a very high difficulty. The average should work out OK but the graphs look shitty. Check your SGminer and you will see they are running at diff 0.5 or something in that area. Nothing you can do about it, other than asking your renter to lower the diff at the pool.
hero member
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The big difference is that I only use 1 gpu, u both uses 3 or more cards. Is that causing the instability of your rigs?
Maybe try 1 gpu for test with xI=64?

Could be, is your 1 GPU a Sapphire 290X, red box or BF4 edition?
both BF4 bought at the same time

edit: broke out the sapphire trixx and boosted my vddc by +25, now running 1050/1500 xI 30 lets see if it will stay stable

I rather suggest u lower ur memclocks..I was running at 1500, but after several hours it wasn't stable anymore, even at idle (booting into windows)..
i had that problem as well untill i increased my vddc
sr. member
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The big difference is that I only use 1 gpu, u both uses 3 or more cards. Is that causing the instability of your rigs?
Maybe try 1 gpu for test with xI=64?

Could be, is your 1 GPU a Sapphire 290X, red box or BF4 edition?
both BF4 bought at the same time

edit: broke out the sapphire trixx and boosted my vddc by +25, now running 1050/1500 xI 30 lets see if it will stay stable

I rather suggest u lower ur memclocks..I was running at 1500, but after several hours it wasn't stable anymore, even at idle (booting into windows at 1060/1500)..
hero member
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The big difference is that I only use 1 gpu, u both uses 3 or more cards. Is that causing the instability of your rigs?
Maybe try 1 gpu for test with xI=64?

Could be, is your 1 GPU a Sapphire 290X, red box or BF4 edition?
both BF4 bought at the same time

edit: broke out the sapphire trixx and boosted my vddc by +25, now running 1050/1500 xI 64 lets see if it will stay stable
edit 2: this gives me 6.221 on the first card but the second swings between 6.220 and 5.700.....
sr. member
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Also, I don't know what it is about the most recent 7-25 builds of sgminer5, but I CANNOT seem to get a card to go SICK.

I've got uptimes of 24 hours plus, and even with CGWatcher, it has not even had to restart once.  My clocks are 1040/1325.

I don't understand it.

But, not complaining!!
sr. member
Activity: 547
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The big difference is that I only use 1 gpu, u both uses 3 or more cards. Is that causing the instability of your rigs?
Maybe try 1 gpu for test with xI=64?

Could be, is your 1 GPU a Sapphire 290X, red box or BF4 edition?

Asus dcII for the win Tongue

xI=30 =6050kh/s
xI=64 =6160kh/s

Oh that's right, how could I have forgotten, you've been bragging about that old boy for a few pages in the thread now Grin

Those Asus cards are chop-chop my friend! Grin
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
The big difference is that I only use 1 gpu, u both uses 3 or more cards. Is that causing the instability of your rigs?
Maybe try 1 gpu for test with xI=64?

Could be, is your 1 GPU a Sapphire 290X, red box or BF4 edition?

Asus dcII for the win Tongue

xI=30 =6050kh/s
xI=64 =6160kh/s
sr. member
Activity: 547
Merit: 250
The big difference is that I only use 1 gpu, u both uses 3 or more cards. Is that causing the instability of your rigs?
Maybe try 1 gpu for test with xI=64?

Could be, is your 1 GPU a Sapphire 290X, red box or BF4 edition?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
The big difference is that I only use 1 gpu, u both uses 3 or more cards. Is that causing the instability of your rigs?
Maybe try 1 gpu for test with xI=64?
could be i suppose, i use 2 cards and if i try xI 64 one will go up but the other goes way down
on the other hand i get 6.02 on average with xI 30
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
The big difference is that I only use 1 gpu, u both uses 3 or more cards. Is that causing the instability of your rigs?
Maybe try 1 gpu for test with xI=64?
sr. member
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i have found the majority of the increase comes from the change i made in groestl.cl on mine, found this in aznboy84's darkcoin-mod.cl
also try xI 30

6|6|6, with last card lagging on curses readout, but increasing up to its potential.

Fucking weird.

I thought ystarnaud/slik had knocked the credibility of replacing those 2 loops.  I didn't change darkcoin-mod.cl at all; just replaced in groestl.cl.

Gonna get a morning nap and hope to not wake up to hung rigs.

Much appreciated; still very interested in bullus' specific miner as well.

EDIT:  So much cleaner building them with my specific cards, than applying another pre-built bin which is notorious for crashing my drivers on 2 rigs.
it is strange that undoing an "optimization" gives better hash rate....

eh, I love ystarnaud [and every single bit of his work] but he takes some convincing sometimes... Grin ( remember our 60second quit bug? Grin )

OW- OWWWW- DON'T HIT ME YSTAR YOU KNOW WE'RE GOOD BRO!! Grin
hero member
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i have found the majority of the increase comes from the change i made in groestl.cl on mine, found this in aznboy84's darkcoin-mod.cl
also try xI 30

6|6|6, with last card lagging on curses readout, but increasing up to its potential.

Fucking weird.

I thought ystarnaud/slik had knocked the credibility of replacing those 2 loops.  I didn't change darkcoin-mod.cl at all; just replaced in groestl.cl.

Gonna get a morning nap and hope to not wake up to hung rigs.

Much appreciated; still very interested in bullus' specific miner as well.

EDIT:  So much cleaner building them with my specific cards, than applying another pre-built bin which is notorious for crashing my drivers on 2 rigs.
it is strange that undoing an "optimization" gives better hash rate....
sr. member
Activity: 547
Merit: 250
i have found the majority of the increase comes from the change i made in groestl.cl on mine, found this in aznboy84's darkcoin-mod.cl
also try xI 30

6|6|6, with last card lagging on curses readout, but increasing up to its potential.  xI: 64 (remember badman, xI: 30 was for nist5 to get 18MH)

Fucking weird.

I thought ystarnaud/slik had knocked the credibility of replacing those 2 loops.  I didn't change darkcoin-mod.cl at all; just replaced in groestl.cl.

Gonna get a morning nap and hope to not wake up to hung rigs.

Much appreciated; still very interested in bullus' specific miner as well.

EDIT:  So much cleaner building them with my specific cards, than applying another pre-built bin which is notorious for crashing my drivers on 2 rigs.
sr. member
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Will upload the whole miner I downloaded it, when I get home.

I think you're on Linux right?  Do you have the ability to get the Windows binaries too?

No I'm using windows..
Strange that I don't get 6230kh/s anymore..I installed cgwatcher this day and after that I only reach 6160kh/s.
Need to check what's wrong..even with the aznboy miner I dont reach 6mh/s.
hero member
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bullus, can you isolate the exact customized miner that built that darkcoin-mod bin that gets us 6+ ?

I can't tell if it's 6-25, -28, -39, or -30

Also, I think around that time, only 14.6RC1 was available; I'm convinced that .bin was built with different drivers.

Still copied the aznboy build bin to other miners.

No I'm with you bullus.  Hear me out though.

I have every build of aznboy84's including the very first one where he cloned the 6-25 prerelease off of nicehash and created bitblock.cl

I'm trying to isolate which version of his miners can reproduce the darkcoin-mod .bin UPON CREATION, reliably, and see if we can't track down why, with the matching source.  The problem with his github is he didn't know how to use git until about the 30th, so all of his files are LOCAL UPLOADS with no versioning.

If I'm on 14.7 and do all those mods and still have now dropped to 5.6 - 5.7, then this has to be a combination of build factors AND the drivers that were available at that time.  Since 14.6RC2 came out late during that weekend, I wasn't using it, I was using 14.6RC1; which means there may be a reason why that uploaded .bin of yours ONLY WORKS STABLY on ONE RIG.  If you put that .bin across to other cards like a Tri-X OC 290X, it wrecks them SICK in a matter of 15 minutes, or even worse -> HUNG RIG.

I want to know which version built that badass .bin, and then recreate and build bins for my 2 other rigs that contain Tri-X OC, and one that has mixed Tri-X OC and standard Sapphire 290X.

This latest build from 7-25 is rock fucking stable, but now we're barely coming up with 5.6 across 3 cards, which is a vast improvement from getting 5.4|5.4|5.0 which is why I had opened https://github.com/sgminer-dev/sgminer/issues/347

This can't be some mystery miner; one of us has to have this shit; and it's hard for you to share only your bin when it might not apply to others; I'm lucky in that I have one rig clocking in at 6.1|6.0|5.9 but 2 other rigs hodling only at 5.6|5.6|5.5 (which, is still an improvement)

Yes I've done luffa 1 and keccak unroll 6 and hamsi 7 (irrelevant to x11)
i have found the majority of the increase comes from the change i made in groestl.cl on mine, found this in aznboy84's darkcoin-mod.cl
also try xI 30
sr. member
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Try using 14.4 with the 14.7 opencl files copied to the sgminer folder.

The 14.7's have issues with overvolting/throttling random gpus..

14.4 trick is irrelevant, I completely skipped that driver fiasco and went to 14.6RC1

14.7's have an issue if you use auto-gpu, remove that, and hard code your gpu-engine, not a problem.

I found I can't reliably undervolt, but I never really did that, so didn't give a shit.

EDIT:  Here's the pictures:

sgminer5 from a week or two ago:



aznboy84 build 6-25-prerelease (modded for bitblock; first one available)


He had cloned the source from nicehash then worked on it locally.

Notice how uniformly his miner handles threads across all three cards, versus how sgminer5 drops near 500Kh/s on the curses readout.
sr. member
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Will upload the whole miner I downloaded it, when I get home.

I think you're on Linux right?  Do you have the ability to get the Windows binaries too?
legendary
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Try using 14.4 with the 14.7 opencl files copied to the sgminer folder.

The 14.7's have issues with overvolting/throttling random gpus..
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