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October 31, 2017, 01:37:53 PM
This is not the only coin that people mine it's the story of every coin. Look at the supply chart one year will generate 7-9b coins? What do you think will happen when all these new coins comes in market? I know company will progress right?

I think you are still confusing what "the company" and "the network" are. Siacoins are the instrument for paying storage contracts on the Sia network. And Siacoin is a mined coin, what means that you are not buying the new coins to Nebulous ("the company" of the devs), but to a miner. The inflation of the coin is the mechanism to provide miners an incentive to keep securing the blockchain. In other words, Nebulous Inc does not take any benefit from the inflation. Moreover, Sia was not a premined coin by the devs.

The instrument that incentivizes the developers to keep working on Sia are the SiaFunds, the second asset of the network, that pays their holders a proportional part of the 3.9% of fees on every file contract formed on the network. Thus, developers get profit only if the cloud storage network of Sia gains massive adoption. And if that happens, the value of Sia will rise too, in order to accommodate all the demand of Sia storage, that can be paid only with Siacoins. So as you see, the interests of developers ("the company") and investors are aligned.

Very good explanation. I was never interested in mining, maybe you can enlighten me, in case I have Siacoins is it possible to do POS mining? Or it is only POW? I will appreciate if you could provide me with some links for "beginners" as I'm totally zero in this. Thanks

It's just speculation about technology, the truth is bad. sc was the worst reflection of recent weeks. Personally I am very disappointed with the purchase of sia coins. Supply is high, possibly due to high inflation?   Sad Sad Sad

Well, anyways, I took decision in July and had that feeling that did right choice as there is a product which is not bad in comparison, but due to make changes on the market   price is on the floor, I just wish I could buy now and not in July, but what to do, now  only can hope for the development and further growth.
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October 31, 2017, 01:13:01 PM
by the time sc releases the miner it will be worth 1 sat

A strange thing happened with the altcoins in the recent period

700 satoshi  in july . now 56 satoshi  Huh Are we heading to 1 satoshi ?

siacoin Similar to dogecoin?


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October 31, 2017, 12:16:57 PM
by the time sc releases the miner it will be worth 1 sat
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October 31, 2017, 11:57:57 AM
i saw this morning that i can buy a "Minebox siacoin" for around 1750 dollar but still not know if it could give some ROI , does anyone know how many sia i can mine with this (asic ?)
Code:
Specification Minebox 8TB Minebox 16TB
HP Model HP ProLiant MicroServer Gen8 G1610T HP ProLiant MicroServer Gen8 G1610T
HP Model version 819185-001 819185-001
Processor Intel® Celeron® G1610T 2.4GHz Intel® Celeron® G1610T 2.4GHz
Processor cores 2 cores 2 cores
Cache Memory 2MB (1x2MB) L3 cache 2MB (1x2MB) L3 cache
Memory 4GB (1x4GB) PC3L-128000E DDR3 UDIMM 8GB (2x4GB) PC3L-128000E DDR3 UDIMM
Network controller HPE Ethernet 1Gb 2-port 332i Adapter HPE Ethernet 1Gb 2-port 332i Adapter
Storage controller HPE Dynamic Smart Array B129i Controller HPE Dynamic Smart Array B129i Controller
Hard Drive 2x Seagate IronWolf 4TB 2x Seagate IronWolf 8TB
Internal storage 4 LFF NHP-SATA HDD CAGE 4 LFF NHP-SATA HDD CAGE
PCI-Express slots 1 standard (1-Low Profile) PCIe 2.0 1 standard (1-Low Profile) PCIe 2.0
Power supply 150W 150W
Fans One (1) Non-redundant system fan ships standard One (1) Non-redundant system fan ships standard
Operating System Minebox OS 1.0? Minebox OS 1.0?
Form factor Ultra Micro Tower Ultra Micro Tower
Warranty 1-year parts 1-year parts
Size 229.7 x 232.4 x 245.1 mm 229.7 x 232.4 x 245.1 mm[code/]

that was top secret insider info now we will fly to 300x500 Cool #why did you do that? Wink weeee

If you want a SIA ASIC, buy the real thing: https://obelisk.tech/

This is the official (and only) SIA ASIC miner. Due to start shipping in June based on current development status.
i am interested but how about the price ?

$2499

But how can this mine SIA? Based on these specs, this is just a HP Proliant server and not even a good one, just has a lot of disk space but does not seem to be an ASIC or even have a GPU

Agreed, the only Sia ASIC is (or will be) the Obelisk.
newbie
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October 31, 2017, 10:42:51 AM
hows the project going on ,is there a telegram channel that gives updates about the price and project 
sr. member
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October 31, 2017, 09:06:20 AM
i saw this morning that i can buy a "Minebox siacoin" for around 1750 dollar but still not know if it could give some ROI , does anyone know how many sia i can mine with this (asic ?)
Code:
Specification Minebox 8TB Minebox 16TB
HP Model HP ProLiant MicroServer Gen8 G1610T HP ProLiant MicroServer Gen8 G1610T
HP Model version 819185-001 819185-001
Processor Intel® Celeron® G1610T 2.4GHz Intel® Celeron® G1610T 2.4GHz
Processor cores 2 cores 2 cores
Cache Memory 2MB (1x2MB) L3 cache 2MB (1x2MB) L3 cache
Memory 4GB (1x4GB) PC3L-128000E DDR3 UDIMM 8GB (2x4GB) PC3L-128000E DDR3 UDIMM
Network controller HPE Ethernet 1Gb 2-port 332i Adapter HPE Ethernet 1Gb 2-port 332i Adapter
Storage controller HPE Dynamic Smart Array B129i Controller HPE Dynamic Smart Array B129i Controller
Hard Drive 2x Seagate IronWolf 4TB 2x Seagate IronWolf 8TB
Internal storage 4 LFF NHP-SATA HDD CAGE 4 LFF NHP-SATA HDD CAGE
PCI-Express slots 1 standard (1-Low Profile) PCIe 2.0 1 standard (1-Low Profile) PCIe 2.0
Power supply 150W 150W
Fans One (1) Non-redundant system fan ships standard One (1) Non-redundant system fan ships standard
Operating System Minebox OS 1.0? Minebox OS 1.0?
Form factor Ultra Micro Tower Ultra Micro Tower
Warranty 1-year parts 1-year parts
Size 229.7 x 232.4 x 245.1 mm 229.7 x 232.4 x 245.1 mm[code/]

that was top secret insider info now we will fly to 300x500 Cool #why did you do that? Wink weeee

If you want a SIA ASIC, buy the real thing: https://obelisk.tech/

This is the official (and only) SIA ASIC miner. Due to start shipping in June based on current development status.
i am interested but how about the price ?

$2499

But how can this mine SIA? Based on these specs, this is just a HP Proliant server and not even a good one, just has a lot of disk space but does not seem to be an ASIC or even have a GPU
sr. member
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October 31, 2017, 08:29:30 AM
Can someone explain me what impact in the price level will have sale of miners?
Do the shipment already begun?

The latest expected shipping date will be June of next year, but it can happen sooner if they have the product ready earlier.

No one can predict what the price of Siacoin will be once released, but these are some factors to take in mind:

- A huge misconception of several users is thinking that the ASICs will increase the amount of mined coins every day. That's not true: the algorithm of Sia (and every other coin) adjust the difficulty of mining to the amount of hashing power on the network. The same amount of coins will be mined every day, but 70% or more of them will go to ASIC owners instead of the current GPU miners

- Most of mining is right now done by GPU dual-miners. Dual miners don't look for the Sia in the long term and most of the times don't even know what Sia is: they just mine Ether and as a side they mine some Siacoins they sell immediately for the extra profit of their mining operation. Obelisk owners are mainly long-term supporters of the project, so probably they are prone to hold their gains rather than sell them immediately. So there is a chance that after the release the selling volume will decrease

- There is no clear economic theory that explains it, but in the past every coin for which an ASIC was developed saw a rise in the price, once released. It happened with Bitcoin, it happened with script coins and it happened with Dash. It could be because becoming the network considerably more safe, it generates more trust on investors. It could be because the value of the coin gets linked to the cost of all the hardware that is securing the network.
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Pepemo.vip
October 31, 2017, 05:41:36 AM
Can someone explain me what impact in the price level will have sale of miners?
Do the shipment already begun?
hero member
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October 30, 2017, 08:16:35 PM
Have low buy orders ready for Sia coin which is a great project Btc is very high right now so all alts are taking a beating
newbie
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October 30, 2017, 07:43:38 PM
Down -50% but still hodling. The team is active and every thing they say is being accomplished. Wouldn't sell it.
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October 30, 2017, 12:17:07 PM
As far as I've read now on the website of sia - who can now stop every moment the preorder of the miners. and start production. More than half of the miners are sold. And I believe that even the start of production could increase the value of the sia. Do you not think so?

Presale ends late November, shipping is due to start around June 2018.
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October 30, 2017, 12:12:53 PM
i saw this morning that i can buy a "Minebox siacoin" for around 1750 dollar but still not know if it could give some ROI , does anyone know how many sia i can mine with this (asic ?)
Code:
Specification Minebox 8TB Minebox 16TB
HP Model HP ProLiant MicroServer Gen8 G1610T HP ProLiant MicroServer Gen8 G1610T
HP Model version 819185-001 819185-001
Processor Intel® Celeron® G1610T 2.4GHz Intel® Celeron® G1610T 2.4GHz
Processor cores 2 cores 2 cores
Cache Memory 2MB (1x2MB) L3 cache 2MB (1x2MB) L3 cache
Memory 4GB (1x4GB) PC3L-128000E DDR3 UDIMM 8GB (2x4GB) PC3L-128000E DDR3 UDIMM
Network controller HPE Ethernet 1Gb 2-port 332i Adapter HPE Ethernet 1Gb 2-port 332i Adapter
Storage controller HPE Dynamic Smart Array B129i Controller HPE Dynamic Smart Array B129i Controller
Hard Drive 2x Seagate IronWolf 4TB 2x Seagate IronWolf 8TB
Internal storage 4 LFF NHP-SATA HDD CAGE 4 LFF NHP-SATA HDD CAGE
PCI-Express slots 1 standard (1-Low Profile) PCIe 2.0 1 standard (1-Low Profile) PCIe 2.0
Power supply 150W 150W
Fans One (1) Non-redundant system fan ships standard One (1) Non-redundant system fan ships standard
Operating System Minebox OS 1.0? Minebox OS 1.0?
Form factor Ultra Micro Tower Ultra Micro Tower
Warranty 1-year parts 1-year parts
Size 229.7 x 232.4 x 245.1 mm 229.7 x 232.4 x 245.1 mm[code/]

that was top secret insider info now we will fly to 300x500 Cool #why did you do that? Wink weeee

If you want a SIA ASIC, buy the real thing: https://obelisk.tech/

This is the official (and only) SIA ASIC miner. Due to start shipping in June based on current development status.
i am interested but how about the price ?

$2499
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October 30, 2017, 09:56:57 AM
As far as I've read now on the website of sia - who can now stop every moment the preorder of the miners. and start production. More than half of the miners are sold. And I believe that even the start of production could increase the value of the sia. Do you not think so?
sr. member
Activity: 422
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October 30, 2017, 09:02:44 AM
Today I have realized that my decision to invest in SiaCoin was wrong.
I mean my entry point was the mistake. Unfortunately, my biggest investment ever was in SiaCoin.

I realized when I checked my portfolio today after long time.
-89% is the lose currently I am digesting.  Sad
I am not getting any hope in price increase sooner.  Cry

Btw what is SiaFund? Is it anything new?

@Rogermoon, why are you posting the same exact message that was posted by another user 10 days ago? Do you have any specific interest generating a negative feelings towards Sia? Very interesting to see so many accounts with low score hanging around with negativity so suddenly Wink bellow the original message you copied:

Today I have realized that my decision to invest in SiaCoin was wrong.
I mean my entry point was the mistake. Unfortunately, my biggest investment ever was in SiaCoin.

I realized when I checked my portfolio today after long time.
-89% is the lose currently I am digesting.  Sad
I am not getting any hope in price increase sooner.  Cry

Btw what is SiaFund? Is it anything new?

And if anyone  has still doubts about the developers making or not progresses, take a look a the new proposed changes posted last Friday:

Jute Merging Algorithm: https://gist.github.com/DavidVorick/20a1f9f47fa56390039144d7f8dec074
New Database: https://gist.github.com/DavidVorick/520e0dcc2458902f29ac163750c3f84d
Renter Propsal: https://gist.github.com/DavidVorick/d9f70ea668a8104ee8f42d2dc6d3164b
Fee Market Mechanics Proposal: https://gist.github.com/DavidVorick/ba17fb7db50b9270d1c2131ff425422b
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October 30, 2017, 07:06:17 AM
saturated hearing all the information like garbage strewn.
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October 30, 2017, 06:34:40 AM
Today I have realized that my decision to invest in SiaCoin was wrong.
I mean my entry point was the mistake. Unfortunately, my biggest investment ever was in SiaCoin.

I realized when I checked my portfolio today after long time.
-89% is the lose currently I am digesting.  Sad
I am not getting any hope in price increase sooner.  Cry

Btw what is SiaFund? Is it anything new?

Smiley same like me Smiley now that feels better knowing I'm not alone. I'm still holding my Sia hopefully next year will be better for all of us.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
October 30, 2017, 05:52:55 AM
Today I have realized that my decision to invest in SiaCoin was wrong.
I mean my entry point was the mistake. Unfortunately, my biggest investment ever was in SiaCoin.

I realized when I checked my portfolio today after long time.
-89% is the lose currently I am digesting.  Sad
I am not getting any hope in price increase sooner.  Cry

Btw what is SiaFund? Is it anything new?
full member
Activity: 448
Merit: 100
October 30, 2017, 05:50:26 AM
Predicting based on the price that the project is abandoned is pretty lame. It's not hard to get the recent news from the dev team. Price will rise, at the latest when the inflation starts to decrease.
sr. member
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Merit: 259
October 30, 2017, 05:36:20 AM
How long will this miner's sale run?

Not sure, they will not dump until the price is 10 sat, I want to get more cheap sia
Getting more cheaper SIAs? Are you serious? I dont think it is a good idea. SIA seems to be abandoned by the team of developers.

LIAR, did you not see what Hakkane wrote a few posts back:

6 Pull Requests have been merged to the main code on the last 7 days: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/pulse . 24 merged Pull Requests and 90 closed Issues in the last month. This public progress report was made by the CEO of Nebulous and Core developer David Vorik 4 days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/siacoin/comments/78nr20/development_and_progress_update/
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October 30, 2017, 02:12:10 AM
just look at STORJ, 2 year low hit already, sia goes same way. stay safe  Grin
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