Topic: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - page 30. (Read 1382227 times)

i'm a crypto lover. i'm not a miner even if i mined in the past. The only negative point a see here except the point of view of each other is the fact that obelisk miner are now VIP and that ppl who bought miner with bitmain are now maybe sucked... like and investor i bought the dip and now i have siaclassic and siaprime... so this is good

now like mike say we have 4 project ok... let's them fight and do the better decentralized cloud what is not good is when i see new comer like some swiss company making their ICO around decentralized cloud and trying to steal the mentality of decentralization with marketing. this is the evil we need to fight. we all do error but let see in the future if the mentality of decentralization will win !!! and this is what i hope.

and siacoin network is not vulnerable... before yes becose of bitmain miner but not now after the fork... this is a fake try FUD

Siacoin is just mooning soon and obelisk miner did the good choice... so enjoy who do the right decision and stop try to make fud and let dev now work and do good project and fight them self through good innovations

The fork was successful. Other spawned Sia like coins require the building of wallets before they can be claimed, and will likely not be on exchanges for some time.

why do  sia fans get butt-hurt when someone tries to spot the light on a wrong behavior ? everyone is defending the fork and i am pretty sure most of you do not understand the reason behind it, but it's there. it's stated by the dev on their blog saying;
https://blog.sia.tech/sia-proof-of-work-reset-24b5ec439625

the fork was mainly done to brick Inno and Bitmain asics so that the dev team who are heavily invested obelisk asic can protect their investment in the mining world.

the story is there , it is simple and everyone can read it. Sia dev team came up with a great project , they did a great work in raising the price making use of the last bull run. sold a huge amount of their hodlings for a good amount of fiat , re-invested that in the Mining world, spend couple millions in their Sc1 miner, things were starting to look so bright for the devs / investors . only for a little while before Bitmain dropped a bomb "A3" on Sc1 , and not too long after that Inno dropped a bigger bomb "S11" which was technically/economically  impossible for the obelisk team to compete with. so then they had millions of dollars in worthless ASICs , while sia price is not doing any moves due to the overall bear market. so what to do ? !Hardfork! .

i am not hating on SIA as i do believe it is a great project " i am supporting the SIA classic project now" , but if any of you use your common sense, you will understand that this hardfork has no benefits for the project itself.

now unless you are a noob in crypto, or stuck with bunch of obelisk miners then you should understand that a fork which is technically unnecessary is bad for the overall project.

-the Sia community is now split into 4 groups > https://siamining.com/chains.
-the network is more centralized than ever.
-the total hashrate is too small given the bad performance of the SC1 miners (550 GH/S ) as apposed to (3830 + GH/S) for inno S11 which costs much less than the SC1.

the network is now so vulnerable, all what Inno needs to do to perform a 51% attack on sia is about 700  S11s (based on current network hashrate of 4.73 PH/)  that can mine on the new fork.

now if this does not ring a bill in your head, then nothing will. but  i am sure one day you will wake and smell the coffee.

 

So there is a lot of discussion of hatred here, but does anyone have an update on what happened on the 1st of November?

Any impact to the hash rate, how many forks did actually happen, which exchanges support which coins, etc. ?

usually I do not trust those mining calcs, and, yes, for sure that there will be more Obelisks up and running getting this calculation on some lower profits

https://whattomine.com/coins/161-sc-blake-2b

$30 000 per year seems nice profit

Judging by current hashrate, many Obelisks are not turned on yet

are the Obelisks making any profit after the Sia fork?

 Yes, can clearly see why you are confused... you believed the SIA price would rise 1 day after the fork      ...it explains why you do not understand what is happening... SIA Dev site has wonderful Q&A, Wiki's, etc. - all of the information is available... Not sure why you are so angry at everyone here, it looks as everyone is trying to help you.
 
  As we move forward, the future is extremely bright for Sia! Congrats to the Sia Dev team for their groundbreaking work on a truly solid project!

now i understand... he is affraid about the hasrate and difficulty because he have not an obelisk and he is afraid to see all this loosing money ?

https://explorer.siahub.info/ - This is an unmaintained explorer, so it says its for siacoin, but it actually hasn't been update to the new chain, so this shows SiaClassic Hashrate. You can compare with the SiaCoin Hashrate here https://siastats.info/

ur angry it is hard for u to understand the mistakes you have now made. can see you are also confused pool vs miners.

i am not angry, really, do i seem angry ? lol ok i just read my comments and ya i do seem like an angry whale who has got a huge farm loaded with bitmain and inno miners. but really I am not affected by this fork by any means. I just do not like the way the dev went about protecting their investment and they put on a show of how they are trying to protect us while they were only and mainly protecting their investments !.

anyway as for the hash rate .  i do not know , but i think siamining.com is the biggest pool for sia. and it shows 251 TH/s for sia and  24.7 PH/s for sia classic.
PH=1000 TH .

mikey is here for attention. he is ignored elsewhere.
another SiA butthurt

helpless

 






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oh ok i get it, now. i am sorry i just did not know that you are so clueless to think that more hashrate = more coins generated = more supply = lower price.

i thought you knew this equation is wrong because my 6 year old son knows it. but since you really are this naive. i decide not to reply to your comments anymore, and i advice you seek immediate help from www.google.com  

you are right mikeywith it's a good point of view. but why you are so angry about all this ? it's crypto will see where all this go. now we have 2 project 2 chains obelisk vs sia... will see what happen. for my part i'm happy i bought the dip  and now i have maybe siaprime and siaclassic... it's a gift.

for me i would love to compare hashrate of siacoin vs siaclassic please help

I would like to introduce the Sia community to the SiaClassic Foundation! Join us and let's keep the conversation going on the SiaClassic BTT! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annsiaclassic-ensuring-decentralization-and-transparency-sia-fork-5056837

SiaClassic is a continuation of the original vision of a decentralized storage platform, where anyone can store files securely and privately on other users’ spare hard drive space. Utilizing techniques such as encryption, sharding, and redundancy, SiaClassic aims to create a viable alternative to centralized hosting providers such as Amazon, Google, and Microsoft.

Declaration of Independence: https://medium.com/siaclassic/siaclassic-declaration-of-independence-315284c56147
Founding Principles and Goals: https://medium.com/siaclassic/the-community-goals-and-founding-principles-of-the-siaclassic-foundation-3a27c2f1d915

HOW TO GET SIACLASSIC?
Make sure your SC is being stored in a wallet you have the private keys to. Do not leave in an exchange. When our wallet is released, it will work with the same keys, and you will have all the coins that you had in your Siacoin wallet, prior to the hard fork.

We also recommend that you don't update your Sia wallet to 1.3.7 but leave it at 1.3.5 or lower. Please let us know if you have any questions.

Sia-UI v 1.3.5 https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-UI/releases/tag/v1.3.5

MINING POOLS

You can mine SiaClassic in the following pools:

👉 Poolin.com https://help.poolin.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018798311-Poolin-com-Announcement-about-Sia-Hardfork-and-Poolin-Mining-Service-for-SiaClassic

👉 SiaMining.com https://classic.siamining.com/

👉 f2pool.com https://blog.f2pool.com/en/announcement-en/sc_hard_fork_en

NODES

The following nodes will continue to run version 1.3.4 post fork:

New York City
178.128.133.200

Amsterdam
178.128.136.54

Bangalore
139.59.55.137

San Francisco
165.227.242.208

Paris
139.59.204.81

Toronto
104.248.104.113

London
206.189.245.87

Singapore
104.248.99.133
104.248.99.134
104.248.99.136
104.248.99.137
104.248.99.135

Port: 9981

To connect to these nodes from your Sia-UI wallet, use the following commands:

Linux/Unix:
siac gateway connect 178.128.136.54:9981

Windows
gateway connect 178.128.136.54:9981

RESOURCES
http://siaclassic.org/
https://discord.gg/Mdmt5jJ
https://medium.com/siaclassic
Twitter - https://twitter.com/siaclassic
Facebook - https://Facebook.com/thesiaclassicfoundation
Reddit - https://reddit.com/r/siaclassic

it is persons like this SiA glad to fork away from,
 nonsense ignorance posted; lost vote; rambling on about nothing productive

an he never understand how SiA price and supply with hashrate or learn.

it is very stupid to believe that bitmain mine for them selves simply because
1- there is only so much power/space bitmain can afford to have/risk
2- there is a competition factor that forces asics manufacturers to RELEASE their asics before they become obsolete.

also what makes you think obelisk can't/won't do the same thing if it was technically and economically possible?.

I hate bitmain much more than any other thing on the planet, but let us be honest ! . every company is there to make profit ! . obelisk is no different. the only differnce between obelisk and bitmain is that bitmain know what they are doing while obelisk don't !. make a very expensive ASIC and try to sell it ! fail ! do not worry a hardfork will save you for now !

talk about control and centralization ! ok there you go it is worse than ever for sia , 99% of the total hash-rate is now under control of obelisk!  .

bitmain has well over 60% of the total BITCOIN hashrate for YEARS ! , they can simply perform a 51% attack and finish this crypto market for good !. but what for ?

 if Siacoin team really believed in fair-mining they would either have forked against ALL asics , or never came up with their stupid obelisk in the first place.

regardless of how you try to convince yourself that SIA team are trying to protect crypto, they are simply only protecting their INVESTMENTS. i know it is hard to see the truth for someone who has a big faith in SIA or for someone sitting on a huge bag bought at ATH but one day you will wake up and smell the coffee.

we can all see; this person clueless as to algo[pricing]network effect&hash.

this is posting phrases of ignorance never knowing  
the nonsense must be a joke.nobody would post
itss over now, thank U SiA devs for forking away from troll types that have no knowledges an not learn or understand how hash works.

how do ASIC miners kill SIA price? you must be so naive to say such a thing, the price of anything on this planet is driven by supply and demand. so here came the hardfork , what's up now? will the supply decrease? of course not, other people with Obelisk miners will mine the coin and of course MANY will exchange that to BTC or FIAT to pay their power bill and ROI on their investment ! . 99% of POW coins are mined using ASICs . not a big deal !

what you should ask yourself is this, why did SIA hardforked against  ASICs that they do not have a direct $$$$ from their sales? very simple !

The SC team joined the mining business, invested a lot of money and of course expected a huge return ! what happened then ? they get f**d by innosilicon and bitmain ! why? simply because those giant manufactures are a couple of million years ahead ! .

so what to do to protect your investments? simple, hardfork !

if SIA forked against every ASIC like XMR did , then ya it would makes sense when bring centralization /51% attack  and whatever other bullshit. but when a hardfork goes against X,Y companies but allowing Z to mine it, then you should know the answer yourself.

this hardfork only shows how immature this coin and the team are.

what do you think they are going to do if bitmain or inno drop another bomb on their Obelisk miners again ? hardfork and hardfork and hardfork.


take ETH , ZEN , ZEC and many other coins that had recently started being mined on ASICs , what did the dev teams do about it ? hardfork ? nop ! they are busy with improving their project. while the SIA team are so busy trying to make $$$ of their poorly made ASICs. see you can't do so many things at the same time, you either focus on the project or on manufacturing ASICs.

as for the SC price, it has been declining since the fork. while most other coins that are mined using ASICs are gaining some good value.