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Topic: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - page 378. (Read 1382190 times)

legendary
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October 23, 2015, 07:53:48 AM
https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-UI/releases/tag/v0.4.4-beta


from OP



ps: where can i find the wallet dat? Someone asked few weeks ago but can´t find it atm.
hero member
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October 23, 2015, 07:46:55 AM
Seeing as the price per GB is about 3 US cents (or whatever amount of Bitcoin if that's the way you work)

Wouldn't it be great for Siacoin to have some form of Dropbox-esque solution for users?

I'd happily pay $10-20 USD a month just to have my primo-files safe via crypto and backed up for my convenience.

I use dropbox for work and would love to have a solution that I can trust to keep my personal files (i.e. doctors reports, passport scans, two-factor authentication backups, fingerprint scans, DNA scans, password backups etc) online and secure.

Although I'd love to have my online presence backed up via USB or similar, the online world is too fast moving for a USB stick or hardcopy to work. The invention of the internet demands a far more instantaneous response.

I trust cryptography to keep my files safe, but haven't found a provider who can keep this promise without the threat of being brought down by lawsuits from idiotic copyright dipshits.


Perhaps this is an avenue which should be explored by the Siacoin team. I'm not asking for 10000000GB. I'm asking for 1GB (at maximum) to keep my personal files safe in a 'locker' which can be updated at will.

I'm willing to pay the price for convenience even if it comes out as being more than what the regular price is.

Call it a "Personal Secure Vault" and you'll have me as your first customer. Make it easy enough for anyone without technical knowledge to access and you'll have many more users of this service.

Although I am sure that this software is developed towards commercial means, it shouldn't come as a surprise that there is a gap in availability towards consumer grade solutions. I'd be most happy if this was addressed via siacoin.

isnt there a wishlist area on slack - or website - for these type of ideas? ...

#crysx

https://forum.sia.tech/category/4/feedback-evolution

We would like Sia to be the storage solution preferred by everyone. What you are describing is something we would like to do, and hopefully will have soon. Sia is a constantly evolving platform. Sia is an open source project, and we strongly encourage other developers to jump in and build the features/tools/use cases that they would like to see for the Sia network. Our primary concern is making sure the network is secure and reliable, because without that decentralized storage is just a buzzword. It's also the biggest thing we have over our competitors - a working network that is rapidly gaining reliability.

i wanted to import a legacy wallet from version 3.3 without a password, but when i import it, the sia ui client wants a password ( i tried it with version 4.2).
how can i solve this?
and what must be done before the hard fork, is it at block 21000 ?


The password is so it can encrypt the wallet with your new encryption key. We should make that more clear in the box asking for the password.

The only thing you need to do for the hardfork is upgrade to 0.4.x. Preferably 0.4.6. You don't need to send your coins or anything.

Just downloaded the newest wallet (Sia-UI-v0.4.4-beta-win64) but doesn´t work. I can open the wallet and it says i´m up to date but no sync (at right upper corner : Balance: --- Peers: 0 Block Height: 0 Locked)

Help please

What website? The latest version is v0.4.6
legendary
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October 23, 2015, 07:34:45 AM
Just downloaded the newest wallet (Sia-UI-v0.4.4-beta-win64) but doesn´t work. I can open the wallet and it says i´m up to date but no sync (at right upper corner : Balance: --- Peers: 0 Block Height: 0 Locked)

Help please
legendary
Activity: 2087
Merit: 1015
October 23, 2015, 06:14:52 AM
i wanted to import a legacy wallet from version 3.3 without a password, but when i import it, the sia ui client wants a password ( i tried it with version 4.2).
how can i solve this?
and what must be done before the hard fork, is it at block 21000 ?

The password it's asking for is the new(0.4.x) wallets password so it can add the 0.3.3 keys to the 0.4.x wallet.json
legendary
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October 23, 2015, 03:44:06 AM
Seeing as the price per GB is about 3 US cents (or whatever amount of Bitcoin if that's the way you work)

Wouldn't it be great for Siacoin to have some form of Dropbox-esque solution for users?

I'd happily pay $10-20 USD a month just to have my primo-files safe via crypto and backed up for my convenience.

I use dropbox for work and would love to have a solution that I can trust to keep my personal files (i.e. doctors reports, passport scans, two-factor authentication backups, fingerprint scans, DNA scans, password backups etc) online and secure.

Although I'd love to have my online presence backed up via USB or similar, the online world is too fast moving for a USB stick or hardcopy to work. The invention of the internet demands a far more instantaneous response.

I trust cryptography to keep my files safe, but haven't found a provider who can keep this promise without the threat of being brought down by lawsuits from idiotic copyright dipshits.


Perhaps this is an avenue which should be explored by the Siacoin team. I'm not asking for 10000000GB. I'm asking for 1GB (at maximum) to keep my personal files safe in a 'locker' which can be updated at will.

I'm willing to pay the price for convenience even if it comes out as being more than what the regular price is.

Call it a "Personal Secure Vault" and you'll have me as your first customer. Make it easy enough for anyone without technical knowledge to access and you'll have many more users of this service.

Although I am sure that this software is developed towards commercial means, it shouldn't come as a surprise that there is a gap in availability towards consumer grade solutions. I'd be most happy if this was addressed via siacoin.

This would be fantastic indeed.

isnt there a wishlist area on slack - or website - for these type of ideas? ...

#crysx
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Hyperspace snail
October 23, 2015, 03:42:47 AM
Seeing as the price per GB is about 3 US cents (or whatever amount of Bitcoin if that's the way you work)

Wouldn't it be great for Siacoin to have some form of Dropbox-esque solution for users?

I'd happily pay $10-20 USD a month just to have my primo-files safe via crypto and backed up for my convenience.

I use dropbox for work and would love to have a solution that I can trust to keep my personal files (i.e. doctors reports, passport scans, two-factor authentication backups, fingerprint scans, DNA scans, password backups etc) online and secure.

Although I'd love to have my online presence backed up via USB or similar, the online world is too fast moving for a USB stick or hardcopy to work. The invention of the internet demands a far more instantaneous response.

I trust cryptography to keep my files safe, but haven't found a provider who can keep this promise without the threat of being brought down by lawsuits from idiotic copyright dipshits.


Perhaps this is an avenue which should be explored by the Siacoin team. I'm not asking for 10000000GB. I'm asking for 1GB (at maximum) to keep my personal files safe in a 'locker' which can be updated at will.

I'm willing to pay the price for convenience even if it comes out as being more than what the regular price is.

Call it a "Personal Secure Vault" and you'll have me as your first customer. Make it easy enough for anyone without technical knowledge to access and you'll have many more users of this service.

Although I am sure that this software is developed towards commercial means, it shouldn't come as a surprise that there is a gap in availability towards consumer grade solutions. I'd be most happy if this was addressed via siacoin.

This would be fantastic indeed.
Yes thinking the same!
hero member
Activity: 556
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October 23, 2015, 02:03:30 AM
i wanted to import a legacy wallet from version 3.3 without a password, but when i import it, the sia ui client wants a password ( i tried it with version 4.2).
how can i solve this?
and what must be done before the hard fork, is it at block 21000 ?
newbie
Activity: 8
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October 23, 2015, 01:43:33 AM
Seeing as the price per GB is about 3 US cents (or whatever amount of Bitcoin if that's the way you work)

Wouldn't it be great for Siacoin to have some form of Dropbox-esque solution for users?

I'd happily pay $10-20 USD a month just to have my primo-files safe via crypto and backed up for my convenience.

I use dropbox for work and would love to have a solution that I can trust to keep my personal files (i.e. doctors reports, passport scans, two-factor authentication backups, fingerprint scans, DNA scans, password backups etc) online and secure.

Although I'd love to have my online presence backed up via USB or similar, the online world is too fast moving for a USB stick or hardcopy to work. The invention of the internet demands a far more instantaneous response.

I trust cryptography to keep my files safe, but haven't found a provider who can keep this promise without the threat of being brought down by lawsuits from idiotic copyright dipshits.


Perhaps this is an avenue which should be explored by the Siacoin team. I'm not asking for 10000000GB. I'm asking for 1GB (at maximum) to keep my personal files safe in a 'locker' which can be updated at will.

I'm willing to pay the price for convenience even if it comes out as being more than what the regular price is.

Call it a "Personal Secure Vault" and you'll have me as your first customer. Make it easy enough for anyone without technical knowledge to access and you'll have many more users of this service.

Although I am sure that this software is developed towards commercial means, it shouldn't come as a surprise that there is a gap in availability towards consumer grade solutions. I'd be most happy if this was addressed via siacoin.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
October 22, 2015, 11:47:38 PM
Also, I am getting this error message each time I upload a file?



I closed Sia after they were done processing. ,, siad was stopped. Reopen Sia a few minutes later and here is what I see?



Should I not be seeing my files there? maybe I missed something  Wink

ok, Sorry for the jumbo images...its late lol  Grin
This is V 4.6

legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
October 22, 2015, 10:04:10 PM
Ya rebooted pc and everything and still whenever I close out Sia and siad is stopped. When I reopen Sia 4.4 any files I uploaded vanish?

Loading up 4.6 right now. see if it does different.
legendary
Activity: 2198
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October 22, 2015, 08:41:30 PM
Silly question, but has anyone else's file uploads vanished in wallet? Yes it is unlocked. Everything else seems in order. Coin balance , hosting, earnings, block etc. But my uploaded files are not there. I had seen this before with another version it seems. This 4.4

THX  Smiley

Are you sure that you are running 0.4.4? Sometimes when people upgrade they never kill the previous daemon. `siac stop` can help you reset.
Hey Taek, yes I did check and have been always looking to make sure "siad" process was stopped after locking and closing down. Well I have closed it down without locking wallet as well to see if it made any differences.

Also, about: shows 4.4 both places, and my coins address are correct.  And prior to upgrading from 4.3 I deleted the UI in apps data, and created a new directory entirely fresh.

Ok, just a little puzzled.

I am showing the same 11 contracts as I did last night before shutting Sia down.
 
"11 Contracts 56.56 MB/10 GB in use 2.29 S to be earned 0.00 S earned"  Like I mentioned everything else seems in place.

I will upload some more personal files and try to see how or where they are going too lol  Wink

EDIT: Just now uploading an mp3 (that I had uploaded last night) and its deducting a storage fee and did not tell me that file already exist as I think I have seen that message before if duplicating an upload.

Pending: -2.61 S  Lock Wallet   (that's my fee for the mp3 upload) PS: My contracts now show 12 after this upload....

EDIT: Just finished uploading mp3. Closed wallet... siad was stopped. Reopened wallet and the newly uploaded mp3 is not showing in my files  Huh lol Yes all else is good 12 contracts etc. AND I just raised my price and it "announced successfully" so I know I'm connected to network. idk, will reboot pc.. but have seen this before in other versions at least on this pc.
legendary
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October 22, 2015, 07:55:48 PM



Does this coin split up the file & encrypt each piece with my private key? Does it then geographically re-distribute the file pieces to where they are most often requested from?


hero member
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October 22, 2015, 07:29:29 PM
Silly question, but has anyone else's file uploads vanished in wallet? Yes it is unlocked. Everything else seems in order. Coin balance , hosting, earnings, block etc. But my uploaded files are not there. I had seen this before with another version it seems. This 4.4

THX  Smiley

Are you sure that you are running 0.4.4? Sometimes when people upgrade they never kill the previous daemon. `siac stop` can help you reset.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
October 22, 2015, 06:58:54 PM
Silly question, but has anyone else's file uploads vanished in wallet? Yes it is unlocked. Everything else seems in order. Coin balance , hosting, earnings, block etc. But my uploaded files are not there. I had seen this before with another version it seems. This 4.4

THX  Smiley
hero member
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October 22, 2015, 04:32:49 PM
I'm a bit out of the loop. What are you currently working on?

+ fix a bug in our database library
+ get startup time below 20 seconds
+ build a testing framework for the UI
+ get correct values coming from the block explorer
+ get the new block explorer feature-complete

Those are the ones at the top of the list. We're also transitioning to a marketing effort, but I want the block explorer looking a little better before we move forward.
hero member
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October 22, 2015, 12:36:46 PM
I'm uploading my first file to the SiaNet ( I guess that's what you could call it).  The file is .7z file 725MB in size.  So far I am at roughly 10 minutes and it is about 12% finished.

Is there any specific CPU type that can handle the erasure encoding better?  I don't see Sia using anymore than 10-20% of my CPU and the drive IO doesn't appear to be maxed out.  Mainly I'm just curious about what could be taking it so long.

I'm not complaining, just making some observations.  I'm sure upload rates will improve as we move forward.  Or maybe its just my old Pentium E5800 (Kubuntu 14.04)


It's mostly a network bottleneck. The erasure coding library is very fast, especially on 64bit systems. Uploading on the other hand... Sia currently uses 5x redundancy, which means you're uploading 3.6GB, something that will take several hours on most home connections.


Makes sense now, thank you.

I just assumed that the redundancy was done by the network, not all from the source location.

X = transferred amount per participant
SOURCE                    -->       1      (X)
SOURCE, 1                -->       2      (0.5X)
SOURCE, 1, 2            -->        3     (0.3X)
SOURCE, 1, 2, 3        -->        4      (0.25X)
SOURCE, 1, 2, 3, 4    -->        5      (0.2x)


Is it possible to use multi location uploads, just like the downloads are done from multiple locations to improve download rate?  A shared upload would speed up the process for everyone involved, and reduce the uploaded by the host.


A few more questions & Comments UI vs 0.4.4

  • When I uploaded this file I was never presented with an option to choose how much I wanted to pay, or for how long, is that normal?
  • Were can I find the .sia file to share.  The share button gives me the ASCII file information, but not the .sia file.
  • Having the contract cost listed next to the file in the files tab could be useful.  Right now I had to go into transactions and add up the 10 payments that I assume are part of the contract deal.
  • Under the Files Tab it says 1458 S/GB (estimated), but under the Hosting tab is says the competitive price is 21.05 S/GB per month. Thats a pretty large estimate window on how much it could cost to store files.

Keep up the good work
 

It is possible to do uploads in parallel, but most of the time you home connection is the bottleneck anyway - parallel uploads wouldn't help at all. For downloads, your home connection is typically faster than the host connection (because they are uploading, and that's the slow part), so parallel downloads improve speed substantially.

For uploading files, we will be adding a feature soon that will allow you to set a maximum price. Other than setting a maximum price, you have no control over how much you are spending. The client will automatically pick the cheapest and most reliable hosts (the api will eventually support a wide range of customization, including manual host selection)

You can't currently get the .sia file from the GUI, only from the command line tools. I believe it's 'siac renter share [nickname] [filepath]', use the '-h' flag to verify.

For hosting you need to multiply  by 5 because there's 5 redundancy. But yeah, not sure why it's 14x on top of that. The price estimation algorithms are unstable because the hosts all have dramatically different prices. (some are 1SC/GB/Mo, some are 99SC/GB/Mo). The most expensive hosts are ignored, but there are few enough cheap hosts that some expensive hosts still remain.

We will consider adding some way to view how much money has been spent on a file, but I don't think we'll be adding that feature this month. (maybe next month - there's just too much to do right now)
full member
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October 22, 2015, 06:24:09 AM
I'm uploading my first file to the SiaNet ( I guess that's what you could call it).  The file is .7z file 725MB in size.  So far I am at roughly 10 minutes and it is about 12% finished.

Is there any specific CPU type that can handle the erasure encoding better?  I don't see Sia using anymore than 10-20% of my CPU and the drive IO doesn't appear to be maxed out.  Mainly I'm just curious about what could be taking it so long.

I'm not complaining, just making some observations.  I'm sure upload rates will improve as we move forward.  Or maybe its just my old Pentium E5800 (Kubuntu 14.04)


It's mostly a network bottleneck. The erasure coding library is very fast, especially on 64bit systems. Uploading on the other hand... Sia currently uses 5x redundancy, which means you're uploading 3.6GB, something that will take several hours on most home connections.


Makes sense now, thank you.

I just assumed that the redundancy was done by the network, not all from the source location.

X = transferred amount per participant
SOURCE                    -->       1      (X)
SOURCE, 1                -->       2      (0.5X)
SOURCE, 1, 2            -->        3     (0.3X)
SOURCE, 1, 2, 3        -->        4      (0.25X)
SOURCE, 1, 2, 3, 4    -->        5      (0.2x)


Is it possible to use multi location uploads, just like the downloads are done from multiple locations to improve download rate?  A shared upload would speed up the process for everyone involved, and reduce the uploaded by the host.


A few more questions & Comments UI vs 0.4.4

  • When I uploaded this file I was never presented with an option to choose how much I wanted to pay, or for how long, is that normal?
  • Were can I find the .sia file to share.  The share button gives me the ASCII file information, but not the .sia file.
  • Having the contract cost listed next to the file in the files tab could be useful.  Right now I had to go into transactions and add up the 10 payments that I assume are part of the contract deal.
  • Under the Files Tab it says 1458 S/GB (estimated), but under the Hosting tab is says the competitive price is 21.05 S/GB per month. Thats a pretty large estimate window on how much it could cost to store files.

Keep up the good work
 
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
October 22, 2015, 12:47:02 AM
Hey I'm good now. My Sunfish shortcut was to staging lol

THX  Smiley
hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 501
October 22, 2015, 12:20:17 AM
looks like Sunfish is down? New address maybe? lol

Was going to share some files  Smiley

siafiles.com - it's working for me

I'm uploading my first file to the SiaNet ( I guess that's what you could call it).  The file is .7z file 725MB in size.  So far I am at roughly 10 minutes and it is about 12% finished.

Is there any specific CPU type that can handle the erasure encoding better?  I don't see Sia using anymore than 10-20% of my CPU and the drive IO doesn't appear to be maxed out.  Mainly I'm just curious about what could be taking it so long.

I'm not complaining, just making some observations.  I'm sure upload rates will improve as we move forward.  Or maybe its just my old Pentium E5800 (Kubuntu 14.04)



It's mostly a network bottleneck. The erasure coding library is very fast, especially on 64bit systems. Uploading on the other hand... Sia currently uses 5x redundancy, which means you're uploading 3.6GB, something that will take several hours on most home connections.
full member
Activity: 129
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October 21, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
I'm uploading my first file to the SiaNet ( I guess that's what you could call it).  The file is .7z file 725MB in size.  So far I am at roughly 10 minutes and it is about 12% finished.

Is there any specific CPU type that can handle the erasure encoding better?  I don't see Sia using anymore than 10-20% of my CPU and the drive IO doesn't appear to be maxed out.  Mainly I'm just curious about what could be taking it so long.

I'm not complaining, just making some observations.  I'm sure upload rates will improve as we move forward.  Or maybe its just my old Pentium E5800 (Kubuntu 14.04)

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