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Topic: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - page 452. (Read 1382189 times)

sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
June 12, 2015, 10:55:26 AM
When everyone refers to Siafunds, what is that referring too? The amount of KS .... or more?  confused.

Sia has a second cryptocurrency, called the Siafund. 3.9% of all successful storage contract payouts go to the holders
of the siafunds. There are 10,000 siafunds total, and all 10,000 are completely premined. Sia's parent company, Nebulous
Inc., holds approximately 8750 of these siafunds. The remaining siafunds were sold in a crowdfund which helped to
finance Sia's early development. The primary goal of siafunding is to provide a way to finance the development of Sia
without relying on donations or a premine. More people using Sia means more funding available to hire more developers.
 
Standard transactions are not subject to the fee, and neither are failed storage contracts (where the host was offline
or lost the file).
Thank you  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
June 12, 2015, 10:52:07 AM
In addition to copy & paste being broken, GUI wallet on OSX showing "Estimated Price Per GB: 858993466.21141 KS"
Wallet copy and paste is not broke, if that what you are referring to?
 
On windows:
Use control-c to copy and control-v to paste when in wallet, when transferring Sia etc.

Not sure on osx

Yes my friend.  Does not work on OSX is what I said.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
June 12, 2015, 10:50:38 AM
Can someone tell me, how to send Sia via "siac" ?

"siac help" should tell you all you need to know.

siac is organized by subcommands. The wallet subcommand is "siac wallet". You can get help specifically with wallet commands with "siac help wallet".

Specifically, you can send money with "siac wallet send [amount] [address]". Note that the amount can be in exp. notation, e.g. 5e27. Also note that the amount is in base units, not SC or KS (5e27 = 5KS).

When everyone refers to Siafunds, what is that referring too? The amount of KS .... or more?  confused.

Siafunds are assets that were sold in our crowdfund last year to fund initial development of Sia. They entitle the owner to receive a portion of all host income. i.e. they generate passive income. More info at http://www.siacoin.com/sianotes.html
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
June 12, 2015, 10:46:15 AM

I think eventually they will be available on exchanges because they are tokens and they are in the blockchain.

Cool. I await Taek's confirmation

Confirmed.


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We've got a really simple "blockchain explorer": http://siacoin.com:9983/

It's not much but we're going to be expanding it over the coming weeks so that it includes more statistics and eventually a way to follow transactions and outputs around the network.
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hah luv that little block explorer  Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
June 12, 2015, 10:44:40 AM
When everyone refers to Siafunds, what is that referring too? The amount of KS .... or more?  confused.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
June 12, 2015, 10:42:12 AM
In addition to copy & paste being broken, GUI wallet on OSX showing "Estimated Price Per GB: 858993466.21141 KS"
Wallet copy and paste is not broke, if that what you are referring to?
 
On windows:
Use control-c to copy and control-v to paste when in wallet, when transferring Sia etc.

Not sure on osx
hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 501
June 12, 2015, 10:03:47 AM

I think eventually they will be available on exchanges because they are tokens and they are in the blockchain.

Cool. I await Taek's confirmation

Confirmed.


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We've got a really simple "blockchain explorer": http://siacoin.com:9983/

It's not much but we're going to be expanding it over the coming weeks so that it includes more statistics and eventually a way to follow transactions and outputs around the network.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
June 12, 2015, 09:53:40 AM
according to http://www.nxtreporting.com/shareholder.php?a=11593659039925686857
1251 was the most not in company control. This is a snapshot from a previous, undisclosed date. 
Probably worth 100 BTC each soon.  Will they be available on exchanges?

I think eventually they will be available on exchanges because they are tokens and they are in the blockchain.

Cool. I await Taek's confirmation
hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 501
June 12, 2015, 09:53:23 AM

We won't be selling any siafunds, but as soon as we've got the siafund wallet up and running the other holders of siafunds will be able to sell theirs. The code should be ready sometime tomorrow, but I'm not sure how long it'll be until we release 0.3.3.2.

Will the 1251 NOT under company control be available to trade on exchanges or are there some limitations on how they can be used?

There's no limitation to how the siafunds outside of our control can be used. I'm sure they'll be added to an exchange at some point.

Is there a way to buy siafunds? I would really want to have at least one.

Yeah Taek, are you planning to float siafunds on an open market again?

Nevermind buying them.  how do you import them into your wallet?

You can't import them into your wallet at the moment. When trying to push the release out on June 7th, we ended up with more on our plate than we could manage. The siafund wallet was chosen to be delayed. It's almost ready at this point, you can import them into your wallet and check your balance, I just need to test the functions that allow you to send them to other people.

After that code gets merged, it's only a matter of releasing 0.3.3.2. I'm not sure what the timeline is on 0.3.3.2, but there are a few other issues that I would like to clean up. (roaming wallet.dat, renter doesn't tell you how much you've spent on storage, and a few bug fixes to the uploading code).

Will the 1251 NOT under company control be available to trade on exchanges or are there some limitations on how they can be used?

the original agreement was that Nebulous would retain 8500 and no more than 1500 would be sold at IPO. Taek has stated that they will not be selling any more.  So all sales would be third party.


As of right now, Nebulous owns 8780 siafunds, which we have no plans to put into circulation. This is the company's primary source of income.

There are also ~61 siafunds that were never claimed which we are in possession of. They are legally ours, but we're putting them aside for people who are late in claiming their sianotes. We are under no obligation to honor latecomers, but we've already agreed to honor it for a few people who were only a few days late.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
June 12, 2015, 09:53:03 AM
Will the 1251 NOT under company control be available to trade on exchanges or are there some limitations on how they can be used?

the original agreement was that Nebulous would retain 8500 and no more than 1500 would be sold at IPO. Taek has stated that they will not be selling any more.  So all sales would be third party.



Yes, but my question is whether those third party (non Nebulous) siafund holders be able to exchange siafunds like a normal crypto-currency... be able to transfer ownership of them and send them to exchanges?  I want to have a chance to buy some from these 3rd parties.
hero member
Activity: 763
Merit: 500
June 12, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
according to http://www.nxtreporting.com/shareholder.php?a=11593659039925686857
1251 was the most not in company control. This is a snapshot from a previous, undisclosed date. 
Probably worth 100 BTC each soon.  Will they be available on exchanges?

I think eventually they will be available on exchanges because they are tokens and they are in the blockchain.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
AKA jefdiesel
June 12, 2015, 09:48:24 AM
Will the 1251 NOT under company control be available to trade on exchanges or are there some limitations on how they can be used?

the original agreement was that Nebulous would retain 8500 and no more than 1500 would be sold at IPO. Taek has stated that they will not be selling any more.  So all sales would be third party.

legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
June 12, 2015, 09:31:43 AM
according to http://www.nxtreporting.com/shareholder.php?a=11593659039925686857

1251 was the most not in company control. This is a snapshot from a previous, undisclosed date.  

Probably worth 100 BTC each soon.  Will they be available on exchanges?

We won't be selling any siafunds, but as soon as we've got the siafund wallet up and running the other holders of siafunds will be able to sell theirs. The code should be ready sometime tomorrow, but I'm not sure how long it'll be until we release 0.3.3.2.

Will the 1251 NOT under company control be available to trade on exchanges or are there some limitations on how they can be used?
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
AKA jefdiesel
June 12, 2015, 09:26:46 AM
according to http://www.nxtreporting.com/shareholder.php?a=11593659039925686857

1251 was the most not in company control. This is a snapshot from a previous, undisclosed date. 

Probably worth 100 BTC each soon.  Will they be available on exchanges?

We won't be selling any siafunds, but as soon as we've got the siafund wallet up and running the other holders of siafunds will be able to sell theirs. The code should be ready sometime tomorrow, but I'm not sure how long it'll be until we release 0.3.3.2.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
June 12, 2015, 09:25:48 AM
according to http://www.nxtreporting.com/shareholder.php?a=11593659039925686857

1251 was the most not in company control. This is a snapshot from a previous, undisclosed date. 

Probably worth 100 BTC each soon.  Will they be available on exchanges?
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
June 12, 2015, 09:19:11 AM
In addition to copy & paste being broken, GUI wallet on OSX showing "Estimated Price Per GB: 858993466.21141 KS"
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
June 12, 2015, 09:11:35 AM
Is there a way to buy siafunds? I would really want to have at least one.

Yeah Taek, are you planning to float siafunds on an open market again?

I think that would be quite unfair to those who invested into the intial offering.  Certainly the total supply of siafund should be fixed.  Whoever bought those is golden.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
June 12, 2015, 09:07:53 AM
Is there a way to buy siafunds? I would really want to have at least one.

Yeah Taek, are you planning to float siafunds on an open market again?

Nevermind buying them.  how do you import them into your wallet?
Hix
legendary
Activity: 1971
Merit: 1036
June 12, 2015, 09:07:13 AM
Can someone tell me, how to send Sia via "siac" ?
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
June 12, 2015, 09:06:21 AM
In the renter tab, there's a button 'add ascii file'. Paste the text on the pastebin into that to get my files:

Mr. Ando of the Woods: http://pastebin.com/ijpN2Xsk
Feynman - What keeps a train on the track: http://pastebin.com/gN9Fha0j
Feynman- Rubber bands: http://pastebin.com/tFdJTwK6
Fever the Ghost: http://pastebin.com/pm9RBu8J

These are some videos that have brought me amusement of some kind. First is some weird animated story. Second and third are small lectures by Richard Feynman. Fourth is a psychedelic music video.

We're building a platform called 'Sunfish' which will make sharing and tagging files a lot easier. The early version of that will be ready in July.

Paste does not seem to work on OSX.
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