Topic: [ANN] Signatum 2.0 - page 33. (Read 102089 times)

Are you blind? If you lost your investment why don't you bother "finding" those who scammed you and abandoned the project (Doc and Skank)? You are asking and pointing the wrong person all the time. cryptovore is not part of the old team. He was just a member like all of us. He lost his investment just like all of us. So if you can, find those bastards who stole your money and ran away and bash them. Not this "not-related-to-signatum" project or its members.

i invested 30k as well, and in no way think this new coin is a scam. how is he a scammer? he just said he LOST almost 10 btc investing in sigt 1, you are hurting the new project by spreading fud moron

shut up relic please. no one cares about your opinions

Relic,

You are kindly advised to stop spreading unfounded self-fabricated lies and proceed to other crypto projects instead.

I have said enough on this subject with you and frankly I am done entertaining your unconstructive comments, simply because you are angry that I removed you from Discord.

Immediately after you were removed from Discord, you proceeded to open a Bitcointalk account, with the sole purpose to distribute your self-fabricated and self-serving lies as you were angry with me for removing you for Discord for inappropriate behaviour (that you were warned repeatedly to tone down on) as well as for Doctor for scamming you. Just like you, I lost substantial sums on Signatum myself. At one point my Signatum holdings were worth in excess of 10btc (vast majority gained through mining, and 0.88 BTC invested of personal BTC holdings), today I would not even get half a bitcoin. I can attest that I never at any point in time sold a single Signatum myself. So if I am a scammer I must be the worst scammer in human history, unless the objective of that supposed scam was to scam myself? Rather than take my personal feelings towards the Doctor and Skankhunter out unto others, who have nothing to do with it, I choose to channel my emotions and energy towards something positive instead, that helps people out. I, along with this group of people I have gathered, aim to create a positive ethical corner in the crowded crypto-scam-marketplace.

Just do not project your feelings you have for the Signatum founders onto me nor this project.

Any future comments from you are subject to moderation if they are not based on facts.

Relic,

it would appear you have a personal vendetta against Vikingchild, could you elaborate on this please?

you make many claims, however, as a community, we are still waiting to see anything of evidence other than your word.

we dont know who you are, so we are not likely to trust your word alone without any real evidence, please present this or pipe down, as it is starting to sound like doomsday FUD.

Your next comments are crucial, we are listening, the floor is yours.

I support the new coin but not you. The stench of scam is all over you. Why do you keep wanting to be in the middle of the new project? Leave. If you can  brainwash 20 year old kids/core team to believe with you, not all people who has seen more. Give this community space without any of your stench.

What do i expect, your grip on the front row is the very ticket to your scam agenda and to cover up your criminal acts.

You and the doctor all belong to jail and nothing you can do to cover that up.

I strongly advice you read the full statement on http://signatum.org/ - Signatum is no more. This is a new coin on a new chain and will not be listed as Signatum anywhere. Signatum 2.0 was a placeholder name that was created to easily convey our support for the Signatum community, affected by the Doctor and Skankhunter scam. You are free to swap towards this coin in December, when the swap process initiates on this new coin. You are not forced to do so if you prefer to keep your Signatum coins instead. Rather than starting a new coin, we preferred the idea of helping the Signatum community out, hence we have extended our support to the Signatum community and offer them a swap towards this new coin. The swap ratio has been voted on by the community and the result of which will be communicated in the weekly update tomorrow.

I am just curious as to what might the plan of this coin once novaexchange close down? Do you have any plans to add another exchange for signatum? perhaps add this to another exchange? What does the Dev plan to do with this?

OMG, not again.

I feel comforted by the responses from yuo Vikingchild. Keeping it proffesional. There will be alot of theese accusations, some from previous investors who lost alot of money, some trolls and maybe some who want the price lower to buy.
But the fact cant be changed, we have two choices. Stay with signatum or swap to the new chain. For the community devs there were also two choices. Offer a swap or start a new coin.

This swap gives them a community instant, like a big aidrop. And we get a new chance with (hopefully) real developers.

If there is anyone in this team you are not satisfied with, you are free to voice your support for one of the other 1100 coins on the market. You are not under any circumstances forced to support this project or stick around if you are not happy with team members.

All of us on this new coin, had the exact same association to Doctor and Skankhunter. We were community contributors.

My contribution to the project you can read in the original thread and my title. If you are unsure what those terms means, I can recommend some books on both subjects or suggest some online sources to get you started. I am more than happy to help you expand your knowledgebase if you are interested.

What motivates you to be a part of this team? I see nothing essential you bring to them developers plus your association with the "doctor" is a very big red flag.
The coin should be free of you.  You also connive for a pump and dump that benefits the previous core group. Ask the people who suddenly become bag-holder from your connivance. People are scared of the new coin because your face is connected to it.

Let this new group and investors be free of you. Leave. Just leave.

You have a very bad trust rating from the long time trusted people in bitcointalk.org. I don't think any good coin would want that.

The value today is not sub 10 satoshi because of me and my 19.5 guy's support.... 👈
You can see our micro and high ammount support every day since 28.09.17... 👈
Never forget it 👈👈👈
And you all time are deleting my posts and blocked me from descord 😡😡😡
19.5 Guy 👈❤️🙏🏻❤️🤠🤣

Any investor, regardless of their level of investment, is treated equally. Nobody is above anyone. If someone steps out of line and attacks community members and makes false statements to deliberately try and hurt other people's reputation, they are subject to the same enforcement of the community rules as everyone else. If you state your concerns in a calm and professional manner instead of doing the before mentioned, with substance behind them, you may get an ear or two to listen to you.

If you are not pleased with the team, that is fine, nobody is forcing you to follow nor support this project. There are over 1100 coins to choose from if you are not happy with this one.

The swap-deal we are offering we agreed in conjunction was a nice gesture to the Signatum community affected by the founders Skankhunter and Doctor's scam. But under no circumstance were we forced to do so. We could just as easily have started a new coin afresh free from the Signatum community, but as community consensus will have it, there is a strong support for this offer and idea.

We all here worked as community contributors together on the old Signatum project, but none of us were core members nor did we start it, this was a projected initiated and managed by Doctor and Skankhunter, anyone who has been following the project knows this. We have tried to be as clear on the matter as we can be, this Signatum 2.0 is a placeholder name. The new currency has no relation to Signatum other than the free swap we are offering, no algo, no code is being reutilised for this. This is a NEW currency, free from the founders Doctor and Skankhunter association.

You are aware that we were all community contributors together before as well? What rock have you been living under? So you are essentially saying we should all leave....

If you believe you can do better, you are free to use part of your 605 BTC to start a new currency and run it the way you want to, and offer people a swap from Signatum if you so wish.

The only thing currently ensuring that Signatum holds any value today and is not sub 10 satoshi yet, is the free coin-swap offer - many see it as a Pre-ICO essentially - except we don't get a dime doing it this way.

Why dont you just leave the project cryptovore "vikingchild"?

If you have decency leave the project.

@kasper @eikcam @johnsmith @squbs why dont you ask this guy to leave? start free from any association with the scammers.

Why cant a big investor voice out his opinion?

Why is cryptovore allowed to have authority here? someone neutral should take over.

this could be the time to buy some of this messcoin before management start playing with it... again, well at least in the short term just before the 4 for 1 swap

Voting for the coin's name has been closed and the new official name for the new coin and chain will be announced tomorrow in the weekly update along with all the data.

The voting for the swap ratio has also been closed and the winning selection and its corresponding data will be communicated in the weekly update as well.

We have been incredibly tolerant on Discord. We do our best to try to reason with anyone that does not display the appropriate behaviour. We understand and appreciate that everyone may have bad days, but at some point we do have to draw the line. When people have been warned several times, often across multiple days, we have to stand by our value of always wanting to advocate and create a friendly atmosphere across all our community channels. It is always a last resort to remove anyone.